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Checking Obamacare 'navigators'

September 24, 2013

Worrying about whether Americans seeking advice about the national health care law will fall victims to identity theft seems to have been an afterthought for President Barack Obama....

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centerfield

Oct-01-13 3:21 PM

Dusty, in the thousand or more blogs you have posted, you NEVER have any facts. It is always your wharped opinions that are formed from Rush, Fox, Shawn, Glenn and the rest of the zombies. Oh, and by the way, has not the deficit been shrinking?

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locomotive

Sep-30-13 9:41 PM

That's nice, willgrr. Thanks for sharing.

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locomotive

Sep-30-13 9:22 PM

willgrr, I'm not buying.

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centerfield

Sep-30-13 10:04 AM

Good job on the last 25 comments. Absolutely no facts presented by the wingers but lots of name calling, derision, and false assumptions. Another bunch of reasons to consider these bloggers irrelevant.

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locomotive

Sep-28-13 5:29 PM

"Ignorance in every corner of our society and the MDN. Those who exhibit ignorance with pride are also anti-education. Go figure."

There are people out in society and here on MDN who are not ignorant, willgrr.

All they're doing is providing opposition to the liberal Democrat juggernaut of incomplete information that rolls over the pathway now and again.

Have a pleasant evening

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locomotive

Sep-28-13 5:25 PM

"loco, take a look at BDGI's 10:40 p.m. post and tell me what you honestly think."

willgrr, I'm a little late to this party, but somehow things must have worked out in the way they were supposed to.

Have a great evening all

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locomotive

Sep-28-13 5:23 PM

"Never in our history has one side spent so much money advertising against a bill and distorted it so much."

Then why all the money in TV ads to promote the exchanges? Why the delays in implementing? Why are insurance companies increasing their premiums? So much for "less expensive" and "if you like your insurance, you can keep it."

How about asking real people what THEY think about the individual mandate as businesses get their mandates delayed? How about the list of businesses nationwide that are looking at 30 hr. work weeks or not hiring to keep their employee number under 50. It's not every business, but it is happening, in spite of cries of propaganda.

This is not a good bill for Americans who would've liked to keep their insurance AS IT WAS, less expensive than what it will be once Obamacare goes online.

Seems simple to me...

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Missy1

Sep-28-13 12:19 PM

Most likely, Obama care tax won't be stopped. You have to sign up for some exchange, before or by Oct 1. Sign up and quit whining. For me, the Obama care tax plan is not the plan I choose for me. I'm keeping my insurance I have been on since 1973 and seeing the doctor of my choice.

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JackAaah

Sep-28-13 10:53 AM

"dustwhistle...seems like jackAah wants no part in your sick scenario. "

in fact, I do get the willies just thinking about politics....I feel more comfortable just moving forword, using my feelings and emotions....

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rajiihammr

Sep-28-13 10:09 AM

I can't help but think this fake concern over personal privacy and the navigators is the flip side of the coin that the Republicans pressed when they imagined that the IRS had targeted ONLY conservative political groups.

In other words Republicans States are targeting the navigators in order to hinder the implementation of the ACA for raw political purposes. Pretty darn blatant harassment.

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centerfield

Sep-28-13 9:50 AM

Now, I think the miss representation by the right on the bill for four years is a good reason for the poll numbers. Remember- Obama-bad, Republicans- good. A half a billion dollars in advertising. Every talk show (right wing) blasting the program daily for four years. If you say something often enough, even if it is false, people will begin to believe It. Never in our history has one side spent so much money advertising against a bill and distorted it so much. That is your party. The soon to be minority party. Oh, forgot. they are already that.

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centerfield

Sep-28-13 9:47 AM

Good Golly, miss loco. You want my sources for what I posted? It is all over the internet. Let me see, want to know where the money goes from health care, or from health care insurances or pharmaceutical? It is out there. The majority of their money went Red. Are you on the net looking for the Republican health care plan? Keep lookin!!! You won't find that one. Maybe you should call whistler, BDGI, or dusty. They have sources all over the place. Just look at their blogs. Their blogs are All opinion gathered from right wing sources with no factual basis. Oh, and the Republican filibusters? That is easy to find. How about the House and the 40 votes on Obamacare. Go get them. It is all out there, just look.

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locomotive

Sep-28-13 8:54 AM

Lately, socialistic Democrats...that's NOT an oxymoron.

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locomotive

Sep-28-13 4:33 AM

Found at snopes (archive)...

"...it was something to do with a woman high on drugs and acting in an erratic manner (obviously)..."

RIP Paul Harvey

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locomotive

Sep-28-13 4:14 AM

Veritas: "Well loco, here's how I came up with that number...Was at a party last week, didn't know more than 3 people but asked all 20 of them if they approved of Congress in general..."

Oh, I see. Your "facts" were based on gossip at a party. Very scientific.

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locomotive

Sep-28-13 4:12 AM

Did you c/p that from somewhere, billgitmo? Noticed that " mark at the end of your post....

Of course I did! Will you be asking your boyfriend the same question?

billgitmo, I have one boyfriend, my husband.

I pointed that out because you or willgrr (I get you guys mixed up) rail against bdgi for "plagiarism" yet seem willing to do it yourselves if it suits you.

I don't care if you cite a source or not, or give credit or not, but if it's good enough to rail about, it's good enough to do.

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Missy1

Sep-27-13 5:03 PM

I watched Obama having a "hissy fit" today. He should try fix what's broken in the Health care tax law. I not joining a plan that broken and then waiting for them to fix it. He is negotiating more with Iran and Russia, than even trying to listen to the American people.

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locomotive

Sep-27-13 12:48 PM

Sep-27-13 12:12 PM

Did you c/p that from somewhere, billgitmo? Noticed that " mark at the end of your post....

Today's Vocabulary

"intransigence"

the art of "refusing to moderate a position, especially an extreme position; uncompromising."

I'd say that describes some modern Democrat liberals, including the current president.

It doesn't matter there are problems with ACA. It doesn't matter it's more unpopular than popular with constituents.

D*** the torpedoes and full speed ahead = Democrat intransigence

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locomotive

Sep-27-13 12:42 PM

"We need a health care bill and the Republicans have NOTHING. They have presented nothing for healthcare because they want nothing."

False.

"They are bought and paid for by the health care lobby, pharmaceuticals, and insurance companies."

I've heard the exact opposite, that the ones who passed Obamacare are the ones benefitting big pharma, big insurance, etc.

I'm won't ask for sources anymore, as it seems to bother some people. So if I have time, I'll find sources to either back up my claims or dispute yours, centerish.

But it won't happen because anyone ordered me to. I'm learning from willgrr about this sources thingy...

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centerfield

Sep-27-13 11:15 AM

Obviously, whistle, you don't look at the facts. You just listen to the talkies and read the winger trash. Congress has done nothing because of the obstructionism put forth since day one by the Republicans. Don't you remember the meeting of fifteen or so Republican leaders on inauguration night to plan the downfall of the President. Their vow was to block any initiatives of the President and make him a one term President(Mitch McConnell). Well, maybe you forgot the record 350-400 filibuster of the Republican Senate to block the bills from the house the first couple of years. Well, if not that, then how about the 40 plus votes in the house to revoke the health care bill or the anti abortion riders attached to almost every bill that has come out of the house. Those are facts of what congress is doing and even though you want to, they cannot be ignored. The Republican party is putting their party(power) ahead of what is good for the country.

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centerfield

Sep-27-13 11:07 AM

I was just wondering if the 500-600 million dollars in advertising against Obamacare would have anything to do with those poll numbers. Or, maybe it is the 4000 hours per month of air time for Rush, Shawn, Bill, and the rest, with each making many statements against Obamacare(many of which are incorrect)(death panels, etc) that affect the poll numbers. We have had five years of the right wing media doing nothing but blaming Obama for everything. We need a health care bill and the Republicans have NOTHING. They have presented nothing for healthcare because they want nothing. They are bought and paid for by the health care lobby, pharmaceuticals, and insurance companies. Remember what is true about the media, if you repeat something often enough even if it is not true, people will believe it as fact. That is the motto of the Republican party.

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locomotive

Sep-27-13 10:01 AM

"Today Congress's poll numbers are down to 8%...Well...Well......Well, it's Obama's fault!"

realclearpolitics . com/epolls/other/congressional_job_approval-903

This site details an average of six polls concerning Congressional job approval. The average percentage is 16.8% approval, which is different from 8% approval figure cited by Veritas. Yeah, that's a low figure, for both the Senate and House.

While I was there, I looked up RCP's average on "Approval of Obamacare Law"...

Seven polls averaged out to a 38.7% FOR and 52.0% AGAINST Obamacare.

Just the facts...

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JackAaah

Sep-27-13 8:55 AM

Willies....I do see Cspan using the HuffPo for stories all the time on their Washington Journal.....it may be tabloid, but it still is legitimate Democrat Party news...

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locomotive

Sep-26-13 8:42 PM

Veritas, these are only my opinions, but they do illustrate the "other side" of an argument, discussion, issue or viewpoint.

:-)

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locomotive

Sep-26-13 8:41 PM

"Really like that commercial of Uncle Sam rising between a womens legs with a gyno tool...Really classy anti-Obamacare propoganda..."

Haven't seen it, Veritas. On the other hand, I have seen plenty of those commercials giving out the phone number to "sign up" for insurance, because Obamacare was found legal by SCOTUS.

Now is that classy Obamacare propaganda or what?

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