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So billgrr has termed Ron Carlson a hypocrite, because RC backed Bush and is now not in favor of more involvement in Iraq.
Does that mean that billgrr has become a real hawk? With angry feathers and everything? Only when Pres. Obama has his finger on the trigger though.
Yeah, we get it: Democrats can do no wrong, while billgrr's sound and fury over Republicans will never cease.
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"After all, can we just please back time up and stop the invasion, right? You don't get to change that stuff just like that."
One could even say this about the recent movements by ISIS, Pres. Obama's JayVee.
"When you only watch or search one channel for information and certainly with a closed mind, what do we expect?"
Bald-faced lie, masquerading as an ill-informed opinion.
Back to the topic...
I've heard many say that the wheat crop this year will be a bumper one, Lord willing.
"Maybe if the Republicans had picked a different leader for Iraq the Sunni's would not be joining the terrorist."
Please enlighten us on the leader backed by President Obama in the country of Syria...
Before centerish moves in to discredit any and all sources she doesn't happen to agree with, might I ask a small question?
Does centerish really believe it's all apple fritters, peaches & cream, and tofu delight with Obamacare's feckless implementation, increased security risks, and massive unintended consequences?
But of course. Because it's a lib policy, fondly wished for and dreamed of, finally passed by lib Democrats.
It doesn't matter that it's a total boondoggle, does it?
americanthinker . com/2014/03/the_real_obamacare_horror_story
"In essence, the senator called me and numerous other Americans being impacted by ObamaCare liars. I have been called many names before, but liar was not one of them. My most recent title before Harry (Reid) accused me of being a liar was Multiple Sclerosis (MS) patient..."
"In closing, it is Harry that is the liar, not I and the many others that have seen and are concerned about the negative impacts of ObamaCare. I will not be intimidated into silence by those in power. Compared to MS that I battle every second of every minute of every day, Reid, Obama and the rest of their lot are small potatoes that would be unable to stand in my shoes for even a moment. God willing, I will continue to stand tall and warn my fellow Americans about ObamaCare. The question is, who will Americans believe?"
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Sorry, centerish. The stories people give, that Sen. Reid calls "lies," are not only found on your favorite news channel. Must I be compelled to c/p?
forbes . com/sites/michaelcannon/2014/02/27/obamacares-horror-stories-are-all-untrue-really-sen-reid/
thefederalist . com/2014/03/24/the-no-obamacare-horror-stories-fairy-tale/ This site has numerous examples of real people who are paying much more for their "new" coverage, but as the article states, that's "not so much" to Obamacare supporters.
"Would you rather all those terrorist leaders were still alive and operating."
Oh, I see.
Drone Activity by President Obama = Always Good
Drone Activity by anyone else = Always Under Suspicion
"...and even though you will wish that Obama will be there too (as one of the worst administrations in history), he will not."
Glad to see the crystal ball is in fine form, centerish.
History can take care of any administration, depending upon who's doing the writing of it.
#2 Drones good or bad.... hmmm let me think. I guess if you are a bad guy, it is bad. Well, for them. Would you rather all those terrorist leaders were still alive and operating.
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Lets take #1. Since before the beginning of the war, Bush was warned that there was no exit strategy and not to go in. There has been no exit strategy ever. These people have been killing each other for 2000 years and we were supposed to stop it... haha. When is a good time to pull out? How many more had to die to fulfill the Republican agenda? Should Obama have waited another year and sent the troups over for their fourth and fifth tours? Maybe if the Republicans had picked a different leader for Iraq the Sunni's would not be joining the terrorist.
Actually, loco, the last premise is true and very deservedly in light of the many, many transgressions of the Bush administration. Now, certainly Bush is the figurehead but he had many, many helpers within the Republican party. His administration will certainly be considered among the worst in history and even though you will wish that Obama will be there too, he will not. Historians are already making the comparisons of this administration without following Faux News or Rush and they rate the Republicans way, way down. They also rank President Obama way higher than your side will admit.
One fact in general:
Democrats have been blaming former Pres. Bush for many things, for many years.
And just what is the current president doing about this certain list of things?
1. Having to consider war in the Middle East because things got so bad after he withdrew the troops (good or bad?)
2. Approved the use of drones for many, many military exercises (hawk or dove)
3. Continued tax cuts for the rich for part of his presidential tenure, while overseeing a very sluggish economic recovery (wonderful or not?)
4. Help push through Obamacare and oversee its feckless implementation (peaches and cream, or sour persimmons?)
Ask centerish about this list, because she's an avid administration apologist, looking always for the good and never for the bad.
Fact, loco, ?? really... or is it a generalized opinion based on your views.. Oh, you want facts on Bush II? 1. Started war on a sovereign nation based on manufactured lies. 2. Approved the use of torture 3. Almost destroyed the economy with tax cuts for the rich 4. Push through highly expensive programs like Medicare D, a government subsidized gift. Now, that is 1,2,3,4 and I could go on and on. Want more facts on Bush II, because there are tons of them out there.
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centerish, I'll throw you a big fat fact, just to make you happy...
Democrats have been blaming former Pres. Bush for many things, for many years.
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Whatever happened to all that "tolerance" and "big-heartedness" in liberals?
And trolling ND message boards with snide little remarks? Look in the mirror, PJinfinity.
I rode Amtrak several times annually between Minot and the Twin Cities between 2004 and 2011. Before that, I lived in Minot.
Why don't you send your petulant, childish attitude to your parents? You appear to be sorely in need of remediation before you can join the club of grown-ups.
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So, I'm just going to start over again since this thread has, as usual, gone completely off the rails (pun totally intended)
I remember hearing complaints in past years (pre-oilfield) about these same issues with a lack of rail cars and interruptions of certain rail traffic.
This is nothing new. It only appears that there is a new and convenient scapegoat that too many are all too willing to blame because they didn't set themselves up to benefit from it and now are upset that they feel they're being left behind.
I'm just speculating, my own thoughts, see I've worked on pipelines many times and have seen how many people it takes to do a project as big as the keystone. The last time I worked on a pipe that size was 110 miles of 30' in wyo, the amount of people on that was insane, we were fast though, the pipe was start to finish in 76 working days, for that short little section I think between truck drivers, inspectors, welders, laborers, office personnel, equipment operators, it was upwards of 3000 people, a million might be a high projection for the sole construction, but by the time the thing is up and running it would be close !!! I don't need to read articles, I'm from the business, I'm aware of just how many it could take! And that number is the only problem you had with my whole statement? Seems I won already!
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BaffledbyBS- Did you even read the TransCanada/Keystone-xl website?
Where is this "close to a million jobs" claim coming from?
Creating a million jobs is by no means 'propaganda'!! However, what is propaganda, giving Solyndra billions of dollars of taxpayer money to waste on a technology that will never be able to keep up with our insatiable appetite for electricity. Oh and don't forget placing all kinds of new regs. in coal fired power plants, which means, retrofitting powerplants with new better equipment, which has to be paid for by who? That's right, the consumer, which then in turn gets handed over to a few buddies of the Prez. It's dirty on both sides, dem or rep, the world has been shaped by greed, I just don't need my govt. greedy, that's where you dems get totally lost!!!
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Center........you must be right, it's not like the pipeline will employ close to a million people, for the initial construction, then you have all the people who would then work at the various compressor stations along the entire route. High paying skilled jobs, which will turn into billions in tax revenue, a lot of the states in the proposed route are hurting for jobs, from truck drivers to laborers, welders, engineers, equipment operators, safety people, YOUR FAVE, ENVIRONMENTAL INSPECTORS, x-ray technicians...whether our sweet ND crude gets a ride in the pipe or not, it's a step in the right direction for ND, the state needs more pipeline infrastructure, to alleviate some of the traffic on our highways......and you schmuck, oil does not freeze, ND sees temps that rival Barrow, AK, sometimes colder, sometimes not, never seen nor installed any kind of heat tracing on oil lines, just water......does the oil in your car freeze in the winter???? Idiot! Think mcfly, think!!
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