"Your failings weigh heavily upon YOUR heart. Go do a sit-up."
Healthcare for everybody! Now do what you're told! Don't eat that donut. We're watching you.
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"You live in the only place with a STATE-RUN BANK"
The Bank of North Dakota AND the state mill and elevator - two enduring gifts of communism given to us by the 'progressive' Democratic NPL of the 1920s.
So, let me get this straight: I wasn't even born when these were created by the state legislature, but I'm some kind of hypocrite because I was born and live live here? So now, to prove I'm not down with communism, I need to move away?
You never let me down PJ.
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"but GOD FORBID we use any tax dollars to help the average Joe."
PJ, we already have an indoor community recreation center. It's called the YMCA. You don't think any public funds were used to build the new facility? The organization is private, but is also non-profit, and as such gets funding from a variety of sources including user fees, donations, and yes, even your tax dollars.
Hey genius, the average joe can get a YMCA membership at a substantially reduced cost if you indicate on the membership application that you cannot afford the full cost of membership. You may be required to demonstrate your ability to pay, or lack thereof. Fortunately for you, they don't require a test for mental aptitude.
"You Neanderthals have no problem handing out tax breaks, write-offs and business 'incentives' to private companies ..."
Says who? You? In order to get a "tax break", you actually have to be paying taxes in the first place.
So in your world, a subsidy occurs when the government doesn't take as much from you as it could take?
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Which is why I changed it up. Knowing you Fundies are literalists, I modified the moniker to "Tea-Anderthals."
"You Neanderthals ..."
Kind of ironic that PJ and the gang insist on using this term. It must be nostalgia for the good old days before man developed the capacity to plunder mother earth.
Agreed Z Rider. Both WIlliston and Bismarck fees are comparable to a private health club or Y. The only differnce is they are city owned and do get some tax payer funding. Both are nice facilities. Bismarck is pretty much just an aquatic center (since they have a Y with all the bells and whistles) but Williston did not have a Y, so a rec center was needed in Williston. Minot has a Y along with private clubs, so not sure the need for another center.
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"The government has no business going in direct competition with these places."
Another Tea party genius weighs in.
You Neanderthals have no problem handing out tax breaks, write-offs and business "incentives" to private companies -- but GOD FORBID we use any tax dollars to help the average Joe.
What is wrong with you people?
You live in the only place with a STATE-RUN BANK . . . but somehow, building a recreation center is socialist outrage.
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Pj, you flaring liberal, all you are is a big troublemaker bully, yearning for attention. I'm surprised you haven't joined the liberal anti bully campaign. Or you probably have but are just the biggest hypocrite ever you don't think it pertains to you. If you need friends, why don't you join a local gym. You can get fees reduced based on your income you welfare mooch. Get a life. Back to my North Dakotan doughnut I go... You don't need a gym to stay in shape. If you can't afford it than I would suggest outdoor activities, which are free, or if you have a couple dollars to spare used weights or going on amazon and picking out a workout video used for a couple dollars. I was in the best shape of my life using Julian michaels videos daily.
Think the Williston facility is free? Think again.
A 12 month package for two adults and two students would be $1,045.00
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Yes, we need one...big time....as those who can NOT AFFORD the extreme costs of belonging to one of the existing health centers can then go to a health club. Then maybe the big health centers...Trinity/YMCA, Snap, Curves, Anytime Fitness and others would come down on their prices or not make members lock in for a year membership!
Interesting how Minot is interested in building one now that cities like Bismarck and Williston have built them. I hope it is not the "they have one so we want one to" mentality. I agree that Minot does not need one right now. We always see our Minot city leaders begging for state and federal money to assist in the flood recovery and helping clean up the city from the flood, but anytime they get money, they are wanting to spend it on something else. Bismarck and Williston went to the voters to get their new rec centers. Hopefully Minot leaders will let the citizens decide with a vote and not use state and federal flood assistance money to build it in the name of rebuilding the magic city after the devastating flood.
We already have the YMCA and other various fitness centers. The government has no business going in direct competition with these places.
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"PJ, if our failings weigh so heavily upon your heart . . ."
Your failings weigh heavily upon YOUR heart. Go do a sit-up.
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Lets rip off more property taxes--keep that local control-Its important to keep those skunks and vermin well fed-just keep letting the trash build up along the river.
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We need flood control--it is heartless to have any other thoughts.
PJ, if our failings weigh so heavily upon your heart, please come and open a privately owned rec center!
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Two-thirds of adults in the state are overweight and the statistics on their children are worse, so . . .
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If they have money to build a new rec center, they had better get busy and clean up the town and do something about the dwellings that are rotting and useless. Do something about all of the trash along the river banks, etc.
That is the first order of business.
Actually, this place is now too big and has become exactly what nobody really wanted.
Time to escape this madness and that is what it is.
How can they possibly consider doing something like building a new rec center when houses that were flooded blights the city?
The city and the park board need to re-evaluate a few priorities, any number of them.
They also need to obtain a fully functioning brain.
Remove the blight, then maybe a more comprehensive plan can be implemented.
One thing they can do is to come to their senses.
However, that doesn't seem to happen, so it is a foregone conclusion that they won't.
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As a taxpayer, I would rather see potholes filled and rivers cleaned, than funding and maintaining a rec center. Also, places like this usually go from nice to ghetto in a very short period of time, so it ends up being just a big waste of money. If I want to go to the gym, I'll go to a privately owned one and pay my fee instead.
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