the scarey part is, they're working on your air base
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One more thing ... We get something out of their roofing and planting and harvesting. If they "take the money back to Mexico," it is little different than that money you sent to China for your new flat screen TV. The money leaves one way or another.
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I don't need to travel to Mexico to find work, although I would do some charity work there if asked.
Mexican laborers are working in fields and on top of houses in the hot summer sun. Some of them are probably responsible for rebuilding Minot after the flood.
Now, if they were taking jobs ANY OF US wanted or were willing to do, I would say go home. Since they are not, I say, give them worker Visas and keep track of them. Provide a short period of amnesty during which they could apply for Visas.
You don't always have to shoot yourself in the foot to get a thing onto the right track. Sometimes you can help yourself while helping others. This fact baffles Republicans.
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In 1918, during the War to end all wars, WWI, North Dakota was short farm workers because soldiers were needed for the war effort. North Dakotans answered the call to arms too. That year, after the harvest, then governor Lynn Frazier stood and thanked Mexican nationals for helping with the harvest, without them, the work done to harvest crops would have been a greater chore.
If you lived in Mexico, you could enter into the US, head on up to Ohio and work the sugar beet fields. When the harvest was over, you maybe headed on up to Detroit to find work to build new cars. It's what went on back then, years now.
Mexican nationals have been working fields and factories in the US for a long long time. They were paid, then hauled their money back to Mexico.
The US gov had to get their fingers on some of the money that was heading south without any taxes collected on the fist full of dollars the Mexicans took home.
For the US gov, it's always about money.
Follow the money.
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MattRothchild Apr-17-14 2:24 PM
"Forgive me for saying so, but virtually everyone who posts on this website's forums deserves to be patronized and condescended to.."
Now Matt, I totally support your 10:50 post with the exception of leaving the source of the cantankerous schoolyard journalism out of the serious discussion.
After all, I'm sure you're aware every dictator, every anti-agenda & every political achievement started in someone's back room or office. They don't print flyers for free!
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So that's what you're resorting to now, philistine? Being Spellcheck/Grammarcheck? Pathetic.
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You DO realize, BG, that you were included in that also, right? Or are you really that shortsighted?
Forgive me for saying so, but virtually everyone who posts on this website's forums deserves to be patronized and condescended to...the utter trash the passes for legitimate discussion and debate here is so laughable it's hard to believe that people actually say it.
Remind me to never read another word of Matt's condescending and patronizing 'wisdom'.
Might want to try to communicate with some real thought in mind; you're a bonafide nitwit .
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Some of you people, instead of complaining about theoretical examples of illegal immigration, should read some books about the actual history of illegal immigration in North Dakota's history. Consider that the Icelandics who heavily settled the NE portion of the state all crossed illegally from Canada in the 19th Century.
If we want to have a discussion about illegal immigration that's actually efficacious and edifying, we could discuss why it wasn't a big deal for them to do it back then but is a big deal for others to do it now.
Actually, to be efficacious and edifying, this discussion would need to avoid the usual lowest common denominators usually employed by the many philistines to distract and divert the conversation.
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I am sure Momof3 would be happy to travel to Mexico and find work down there. Even if she has to be an illegal alien in Mexico, that's ok with the Mexican gov.
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Per the article, however, all three were employed by at least one business. Those panhandlers on the corners, take note.
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"welfare pays as much as a JOB"
This is one of the nation's top 10 welfare states -- getting back TWO DOLLARS in federal funds for every ONE put in.
Next time you want to complain to a welfare queen, find a mirror.
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animal Apr-16-14 9:13 AM
"NOTAMAN AND NOJUSTICE are both bigots! Perfect examples of our congressional nonleadership."
Aminal calling me a bigot. Ha!
With you Aminal, it's easy.....Just counter with some common sense & everything you just wrote seems to come from a singular biased opinion.....Oh my!
As in 39 States, welfare pays as much as a JOB and if we reduced welfare = people might JUST GET BACK to work.
And why aren't Libs protesting when the illegals take jobs away from Unions? They are in construction and many of the other trades.
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I don't think "illegal" is OK. But why do we not want them? Usually we don't want workers because they take jobs away from Americans. Minot cannot get enough Americans to work, so the thing I see here is WORKER and I wonder why you oppose WORKERS. I can certainly see why you would oppose someone in a criminal endeavor. But robbing a bank is a far cry from just being somewhere. These are NOT the same thing. Who would you punish? The worker or the employer? Or both? Because in order to work -which is the question posed here- someone must hire.
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What is it about workers doing jobs you don't want to do is the problem? Expand workers Visas for the jobs that are hard to fill. The question was "working." If you believe there are illegal workers, who would do those jobs in North Dakota? What do you think they take? I can see why we would not want people taking advantage of our social programs, but why don't we want them to work here until we can get enough American workers to fill those jobs? If you think there are hundreds of workers, who will do those jobs in the meantime. Also, they are buying stuff at the stores if they are working and they are creating employment for more people.
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What is your problem with those who have entered illegally? I thought it was drug running and taking advantage of Welfare. WHAT DO YOU HAVE AGAINST PEOPLE WHO WORK? I have no more in common with you than I do with them, except when they are taking jobs Americans want. It is fairly clear that they are not taking jobs someone else wants when they will choose work in the summer heat and winter cold of Minot
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Are you referring to the 50+ bills to repeal the ACA that cost around a 100 million dollars in lost time or the bills passed with amendments that had nothing to do with the original bill. This is the "do Nothing" Republican right wing House we are talkin about? You are sooooo out to lunch!!! Oh, and that rushslide 2015 thingy you blather about??? Did you not also predict Berg and Romney??????
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Illegal immigrants? In Minot? Exactly where would they be coming from, Canada?
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Immigration bill and not a jobs bill? Or are these one and the same to libs?
Congress should put its energies forth into things that are constructive, that help the American people.
Now as to what those "things" are, the debate can begin again.
Winter months....not too many...but summer months...hundreds!!! But they seem to adapt to the colder weather, so maybe this assumption is all wrong. More like hundreds all year round. They usually go shopping in packs with one being the only one to speak or understand English & translated to the flock. You gotta do what you gotta do!!!
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