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Who do you blame/credit the most for the existence of Obamacare?

  1. Obama
  2. Congressional Republicans
  3. Congressional Democrats
  4. People who elected the above
 
 
 
 
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Missy1

Nov-06-13 2:29 AM

your right, minot loner. But Obama is guilty of a lot of things. Surrounding himself with a lot of people who just don't care about YOU. Now, the rest of us can try figure out Our HEALTHCARE, that we had and was Happy with it. I have mine. I am happy with it. When do I go on yours?

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muleskinner

Nov-06-13 4:47 AM

The electoral college.

The popular vote doesn't count. I didn't vote for President Obama and had Romney won the Democrats would have become obstructionists themselves. They are the wolves, the sheep, that means you, the oft beat voter, are for dinner. All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others.

Politicians are all cut from the same cloth and nothing ever changes.

All they do is tax people even more because of their incompetence, so the average joe suffers some more.

It's like you're being held hostage at a bank robbery in Stockholm and the hostages are ok with it.

You have to feel sorry for Obama, he would probably be panhandling in Chicago if he weren't president.

He's a dunce. Nothing anybody can do about that.

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socialismsucks

Nov-06-13 7:27 AM

Well said Minotloner, muleskinner. people used to be elected to serve, now if it's they promise more free stuff than the other person. one of best quotes i've heard from an obamabot - " I Thought obamacare was great, i just didn't realize i would have to pay for it personally."

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ovomitlied

Nov-06-13 8:47 AM

Interesting Not one person liberal or Conservative has come out on this question to back Obama..

I wonder why? Could it be that FOR ONCE the Democrats are getting the shaftin having a new plan.. Seems Obama wasnt able to pick and choose (his nose) or the people who would get their insurance cancelled..

Seems the pocketbook is where the democrats are feeling the pain... God I love this pocket picking by Obama.

It was just a matter of time until Obamacare became a personal thing with his people..

Now they are squealing like pigs..

Shoulda woulda coulda prevented this but you followed the lead hog right to the slaughter house..

Enjoy your new premiums folks.. Enjoy selling your soul to the Company store come tax time.. enjoy it folks..

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ovomitlied

Nov-06-13 8:53 AM

Some of you people think you are safe and that Obamacare won't affect you because you get your insurance through work, but you are in for a rude awakening. There is a reason Obama delayed the employer mandate until 2015; so he wouldn't have to face the wrath of even more disillusioned voters who lose their plans and doctors during the 2014 elections. We already know how good Obama's word is. Period.

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minreader

Nov-06-13 9:05 AM

White House sidesteps on legislative efforts formalize ObamaCare pledge. The White House on Tuesday refused to state its position on legislative proposals aimed at formalizing President Obama's promise that people who like their existing coverage should be allowed to keep it under the new health care law.

Rep. Fred Upton, R-Mich., and Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-La., introduced bills permitting insurers to reinstate plans that fall short of the coverage requirement under ObamaCare after insurance companies began sending out millions of cancellation letters, often citing the new health care law as the reason.

Jay Carney refused repeatedly to state a position on the proposals, saying he hadn't "reviewed or seen an examination internally" on any of them.

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MattRothchild

Nov-06-13 9:22 AM

None of the above. This question demonstrates anew more of the kind of small-time, short-view thinking that has wrought so much death and destruction on us.

Believe it or not, I blame Pres. Franklin Roosevelt and an executive order he gave back in 1942. It was this that gave rise to the health insurance system as we knew it and the variety of problematic features that were the impetus for all of the difffernt health care "reforms" that took place through the years, all the way down to Obamacare.

What we got wasn't "reform", not even close. Rather, it was a step in the same direction we've been moving for seven decades.

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EarlyBird

Nov-06-13 9:40 AM

Watch this short video and try to picture where you fit in....

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rajiihammr

Nov-06-13 9:48 AM

This is the dumbest, most poorly written question to date. Of course the Republicans are responsible for the existence of the ACA. They refused to participate in the creation of the law that is the ACA. If they had put forth reasonable counter proposals that would work toward insurance reform we would be looking at a better law. Their recalcitrance toward the law, calling it to this day a "bill", and undercutting funding for its implementation is a fine example of obstructionist governance. They deserve the like, when/if they are partially in charge(300+ filibusters).

By the way yahoos, I'm enrolled in the ACA. I fully expect a few of you calumnious jackals to accuse me of being a leech on society, but before you do make a point today of walking up to every senior citizen on the street who is on Medicare and scream in their face that they are "destroying the country". Don't blame the medical/insurance industry, no, don't blame them.

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ovomitlied

Nov-06-13 10:01 AM

ya right Rajjj.. Now its all the Repubicans fault right?

Your party is a very sick twisted outfit.

Face it you voted for a Liar.. Then you fell for his lies and now you are trying to blame the Republicans..

This is not Republicancare This has its leaders name on it.. OBAMACARE

He owns it.. Live with it.. or in some cases people will die with it..

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ovomitlied

Nov-06-13 10:06 AM

Rajjj. see that FICA on your paycheck? Or do you get a government check without this?

Thats the money seniors paid into their Social Security and Medicare.. for all their working lives..

See that 30 year old drawing a subsidy for his health insurance. Thast welfare.. 6 years of work doesnt cut it rafff..

So scream at the seniors.. They paid their share..

Whats happening is now all the young getting a subsidy are borrowing on the future of their retirement/medicare.. Where do you think in 20 years, of taking from the medicare system to pay for the medicaid,your retirment medical (medicare) will remain solvent?

One thing I will say a democrat can see but he cannot see beyond his own horizon. He is too uneducated to figure out the ramifications of the "free" money being payed out.

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ovomitlied

Nov-06-13 10:08 AM

Medicare is scheduled to run out of money in 2026. So then what? I suspect with the unemployment numbers as high as they are and the babyboomers becoming of age that number will drop to a year or two sooner..

Where will the "free" money come from for medicaid?

Feel good about this free money??? Just remember your spending your retirment medical before you even get there..

Enjoy!!! You voted him in.. you got it.. and now you can live with it..

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rajiihammr

Nov-06-13 10:10 AM

VERITAS--- You can show them historical facts and they still click 'disagree'.

How did they spend their time in school. Likely just shaking their heads. One of "the Limpman's" propaganda tactics is to undercut the education system. Planting the idea that it is overrun by 'liberal' indoctrination. The most recent example: "Rush Revere". His show has become an infomercial for the book. It's no doubt a head shaker.

This lazy Democrat is going off to work, yes work.

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rajiihammr

Nov-06-13 10:18 AM

ovomitlied--- See Veritas's posts. This would be called 'Republicare' if Republicans were more concerned for people than corporations.

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locomotive

Nov-06-13 11:02 AM

"By endorsing the concept of compulsory universal insurance coverage, Nickles-Stearns (or any other big gov't healthcare plan) undermines the traditional principles of personal liberty and individual responsibility that provide essential bulwarks against allintrusive governmental control of health care."

Yes, this is the key principle. Notice again that "all-intrusive governmental control" thingy. That's what has many, many people upset with Obamacare, as it reaches right down into your personal health issues, your own management of same, and your pocketbook, or the magic cornucopia that keeps on giving.

Not one politician, think tank, legislator, healthcare guru has got it right yet.

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locomotive

Nov-06-13 11:04 AM

"We already know how good Obama's word is. Period."

It is regrettable, but true.

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ovomitlied

Nov-06-13 11:14 AM

Rajjj Have fun at work as you work to pay for the guy asleep on his mommys couch drawing off the Government..

You see the less you do and the less you amek the more the Government will "handle" you or in other words take control of your life.

The best is yet to come when you look at your 2014 tax forms in January 2015. Watch and see how much of your "free" money is really free..

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ovomitlied

Nov-06-13 11:15 AM

Period use to have a way differant meaning years ago..

.. Missed meant the beginning of new life

.. Now it means the end..

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locomotive

Nov-06-13 11:17 AM

raj, Republicans had been on board in the debate of ACA, until the individual mandate was put in. Then they said no and started their "obstructionism" as you put it.

For crying out loud, I realize some Democrats would like nothing better than to put the GOP six feet under, then stomp on top of them, but if there is to be no opposition in this country, then declare Pres. Obama Ruler-For-Life, do away with the sham "working together" speeches, and do what you want. (Staples moment for Dems...)

Our country has always had varying degrees of opposition, disagreement, partisanship, etc. Should the citizens, that enacted freedom for slaves and their right to vote, have discontinued their drive for what they considered morally right? We say, of course not.

With vigorous debate of principles and philosophies, a better America was formed and will continue to be formed.

We need not be scared of opposition, as it will clarify what we believe in. That's a statement

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locomotive

Nov-06-13 11:18 AM

...That's a statement for lefties, righties, or in-betweenies, Dems or Reps.

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locomotive

Nov-06-13 11:22 AM

raj, have you read the Rush Revere thingy? Or are you practicing prejudice?

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ovomitlied

Nov-06-13 11:33 AM

rajjj could care less. he got what he was after..

FREE coverage..

Like every Dem lets somoneone else pay my way..

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MattRothchild

Nov-06-13 11:46 AM

None of the above. This question demonstrates anew more of the kind of small-time, short-view thinking that has wrought so much death and destruction on us.

Believe it or not, I blame Pres. Franklin Roosevelt and an executive order he gave back in 1942. It was this that gave rise to the health insurance system as we knew it and the variety of problematic features that were the impetus for all of the difffernt health care "reforms" that took place through the years, all the way down to Obamacare.

What we got wasn't "reform", not even close. Rather, it was a step in the same direction we've been moving for seven decades.

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locomotive

Nov-06-13 12:28 PM

I can't afford to retire. I'll probably drop in the saddle.

As far as drawing on SS and Medicare/Medicaid, I don't think it will be there.

Ayn Rand didn't have all the answers. Didn't you know, Veritas? Not everyone thinks she's all that.

I like good old-fashioned principles: don't spend more than you have; do unto others as you would have them do unto you; mind your manners; be circumspect.

Finding hypocrites in any endeavor is easy, because after all, it's humans we're dealing with.

Good luck with that hipo(crite) hunting of yours, Veritas. I hope it makes you happy. Or happier.

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muleskinner

Nov-06-13 12:39 PM

Historical facts don't budge.

Richard Nixon wanted a National Health Insurance back in 1971. Of course, it would have benefited the health insurance industry.

Obamacare just looks like an idea from Obama, but it really was the stupid Republicans back in 1971 who knew it was a good deal for insurance companies at the expense of the average joe.

They're all cut from the same cloth, those dirty stinking politicians.

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