Your point being? You agree with me that we are put in a sad state of affairs when we look to the government to take care of us, provide subsidies, etc?
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mark, it may be unbelievable for a lib like you and others, but NO we are not on the dole, even though we are of age, haven't started SS. If you are gonna play this 'I want my share for what I have had to pay for because of the oil' game, then how about we all get money for all the hassle the welfare games have cost us. You libs have been working overtime to remove each and every private business for wealth redistribution. You have been doing the brainwashing. We are hearing what happens when people depend on government for their every need---sad, isn't it.
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I agree locomotive and disgusted.
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disgusted's posts were spot on. EOS
Veritas, sure glad you really don't know what I do or don't do or what I agree or disagree with.
Like I said, emphasis on "wild" - your own wild speculation, that is.
I have to say, bdgi is a prophet!!! My goodness, Obama must have not graduated at the head of his class at Harvard and I am sure that he was not editor of the law review. And, not only that, your source is impeccable. I am surprised he is not on Fox news or something like that. You are still a hater and a racist. You can't run from that can ya. But, you don't really want to, either.
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mark, move to Alaska where nearly ALL of the oil being drilled is on state owned land. Here most of it is PRIVATELY owned. I know that eats at your craw----can't redistribute that, at least not yet, but I a'm sure you are working on changing that also.
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Holding a rational conversation with some of you is like ice skating on jello.
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As it appears as though you could be a little contextually challenged, so let me pose the statement to you again in a more specific manner:
If your aim is to insinuate that big business - in this case the company responsible for the spill - is using it's money to influence public officials not to disclose information to the public, show us some kind of proof, instead of the wild speculation that you're trying to pass off as fact.
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The MDN's "Male Only Gamer" ad is really classy.
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"Favorite hemorrhoid issues"
What does that mean?
On second thought, I just don't want to know...
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"If your aim is to insinuate that big business is using it's money to influence public officials not to disclose information to the public, show us some kind of proof, instead of the wild speculation that you're trying to pass off as fact."
Agreed, with emphasis on "wild."
Well, well, dusty, you are more like Rush every day. This site is about oil spills and the oil industry. You have tried to change the subject three or four times talking about your favorite hemorrhoid issues. When you don't have anything to contribute to the discussion, you bloviate your hatred. Go, dusty, go.
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Come listen to a story about a man named Jed A poor mountaineer, barely kept his family fed, Then one day he was shootin' at some food, And up from the ground came a bubblin' crude. Oil that is, black gold, Texas tea. Well the first thing you know ol' Jed's a millionaire, His kinfolk said, 'Jed, move away from there!' They said, 'Californy is the place you oughtta be.' So, they loaded up the truck and moved to Beverly. Hills, that is, Swimmin' pools, movie stars. Well now its time to say goodbye to Jed and all his kin. And they would like to thank you folks fer kindly droppin' in. You're all invited back next week to this locality To have a heapin' helpin' of their hospitality
Hillybilly that is. Set a spell, Take your shoes off.
Y'all come back now, y'hear?
Apathetic citizens will cry out about how this could have happened and all the anti-environmentalists will blame the government for the spill-for surely big business can't be responsible for it. Its not a question of IF but WHEN. FISH NOW.
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Dusty, it would seem to me that the best way to eliminate any of the power brokers from buying influence would be to limit the power government has over us. We could start by requiring congress to re-assume the legislative power they've ceded unconstitutionally to the various federal bureaucracies. Then I would recommend congressional and judicial term limits.
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Dusty, was that in response to one of my posts, or were you directing it to me in response to the comments from Veritas?
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"What would some moron from Minot do?"
You tell us. What would you do?
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"I am not pro on Big Business deciding when & what people are entitled to know."
To which big business are you referring? If you are talking about the parties responsible for the spill, what did you expect? A press conference? The responsible party's primary responsibilities are to notify the appropriate government regulators and rectify it with any injured parties. If the spill is on public land or affects public land, it would then be the responsibility of the government authorities to notify the public. Otherwise, it is a private matter between the party responsible and the parties affected.
If your aim is to insinuate that big business is using it's money to influence public officials not to disclose information to the public, show us some kind of proof, instead of the wild speculation that you're trying to pass off as fact.
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There is a plus to the spill at Tioga and if there becomes a spill on the Lake: At least it is Bakken crude, A. which is easier to clean up in case of a spill, B. It is being transported for use in the US, and C. Foreign countries/companies aren't making a ton of profits from the US. We get nothing from Tar sand crude, absolutely nothing. The few jobs it creates is not worth the trouble to have tar sand crude spills all across the US. Now, lets start using the Bakken crude here in the US instead of shipping millions of barrels to Canada every year.
What would Dalrumple do? Well, first of all, he would go to the mailbox and get his government subsidy check for his farm, then he would check with the Hoeven/Cramer to see if he should acknowledge the spill, then check to see if the oil companies check to Hoeven/Cramers campaign funds had cleared, and then he should call on whister to get his views of the situation.
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"I am not pro on Big Business deciding when & what people are entitled to know. Same could be said about the govt."
I can agree with this, Veritas, but quadruple for the gov't. It's watching us, y'know.
angeR, I'm all in on your new sarcasm emoticon. Very cool. Hope you don't mind if I use it now and then. It'll be a little code thingy, ok?
;-} er, I mean :-)
PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE GOV'T SHUTDOWN WE CAUSED.
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"You people do understand that with other chemicals you can make oil.Just axing."
You are too funny, Lefty. Where do these "other chemicals" come from? Just axing... They are extracted from other raw materials. They're not just conjured up out of thin air, unless you're talking about nitrogen and oxygen, which I suppose could be conjured up or extracted from thin air.
Anyway back to the point. Mother nature, over the course of millions of years, prepackaged various forms of energy. All we have to is extract it from the ground and refine it. Although I won't deny it is technically possible to synthesize what mother nature has done for us, how much energy would that require FROM us to do? Wouldn't that be kind of counter productive if the end goal is to tap those synthesized materials for their energy potential?
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