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Who is being hurt more, directly or indirectly, by the partial shutdown of the federal government?

  1. Rich people
  2. Middle class
  3. The poor
  4. All are suffering equally
 
 
 
 
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socialismsucks

Oct-10-13 6:19 AM

The messiah doesn't care who gets hurt as long as His agenda is pushed. Cutting off the view to Mt Rushmore? Messiah looks more like a spoiled child than a 'leader'.

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namexxx

Oct-10-13 7:39 AM

I know who is NOT being hurt: anybody trying to spin this as a "partial shutdown."

That's a white lie.

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EarlyBird

Oct-10-13 8:02 AM

The nonessential workers are just what the word means.... nonessential. I hope the nonessential people will be able to tolerate becoming essential tax paying citizens.

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realwildchyld

Oct-10-13 8:08 AM

The real answer is nobody is being hert...the non esential workers are just that non esential.

My life has not changed one bit and I have yet to meet anybody that has been touched by this mess our president got us into.

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muleskinner

Oct-10-13 8:31 AM

The Democrats don't want the government shut down. The Republicans forced the government to shut down.

And blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah blah.

They're bleating sheep contributing noise pollution.

It's beginning to stink. Washington, District of Clowns is rotten to the core.

A new day of bread and circus and plenty of laughingstock to go with it.

There is only one way to force a government shutdown. Don't pay taxes. Yeah, right. That'll be the day.

I have to work darn hard to make it go in this world and nobody is sympathizing, in fact, it is the opposite.

If there has to be consequences, the best you can hope for is to get paid for all of the work so the rest of the world doesn't have to starve; especially Republicans and Democrats. They need to eat so the rest of the world can laugh at their idiocy.

I hope the change I see is that they get to work and stop being the fools they make themselves to be.

That'll be the day.

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animal

Oct-10-13 8:45 AM

No one is actually being hurt to any degree! This is all superficial childish B,S, put on the public by the stupid crooked immoral Dems. and their god child emperor! All of them including hietcamp are a disgusting joke! Everyone of them MUST GO!

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namexxx

Oct-10-13 8:55 AM

"All of them including hietcamp are a disgusting joke! Everyone of them MUST GO!"

Well, start winning elections, Sparky.

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locomotive

Oct-10-13 9:27 AM

Voters can and should remember all they can. It's the American way.

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locomotive

Oct-10-13 9:29 AM

"Why should the American people always have to pay for rich people's political agenda?"

OK, I'll bite. Which "rich people's political agenda" was served by the Democrats-only passage of Obamacare?

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EarlyBird

Oct-10-13 9:45 AM

The Federal government is only hurting itself, much like a two headed snake attacking itself.

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MarkHighwater

Oct-10-13 9:47 AM

I will say it again Sam...Socialism for the rich....Capitalism for the rest"

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locomotive

Oct-10-13 10:04 AM

Veritas, so you can't answer the question. Why didn't you just say so?

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locomotive

Oct-10-13 10:06 AM

"And that..."Democrats-only passage" thingy you keep bringing up...You might get your answers from the north Dakota legislature on how that works..."

I think one of namexxx's thoughts will suffice here:

Then win more elections in ND. Sparky.

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polidork

Oct-10-13 10:40 AM

After reading many of the comments here, a clear pattern emerges: republicans only care about what affects them personally. The government shutdown doesn't hurt them directly, so it must not affect anyone else either.

The thing is, it's good to consider things from another persons position. It's called empathy. Most liberals care about other people, not just themselves. Of course, we also don't believe the silly fiction of individualism. We all exist within a web of relationships.

There's a huge country beyond Minot ND, with people that many of us consider fellow citizens, not enemies.

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realwildchyld

Oct-10-13 11:19 AM

polidork wrote this

"After reading many of the comments here, a clear pattern emerges: republicans only care about what affects them personally. The government shutdown doesn't hurt them directly, so it must not affect anyone else either.

The thing is, it's good to consider things from another persons position. It's called empathy. Most liberals care about other people, not just themselves. Of course, we also don't believe the silly fiction of individualism. We all exist within a web of relationships.

There's a huge country beyond Minot ND, with people that many of us consider fellow citizens, not enemies".

Dumbest post I have read on this site ever!!!! Congrats to you polidork!!!!

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locomotive

Oct-10-13 11:29 AM

Take the source to task, Veritas.

namexxx is waiting for your ire...

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locomotive

Oct-10-13 11:31 AM

"After reading many of the comments here, a clear pattern emerges: republicans only care about what affects them personally."

"Most liberals care about other people, not just themselves."

Very partisan of you to say so, polidork. Not rooted in much reality, but very partisan.

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EarlyBird

Oct-10-13 2:53 PM

polidork wrote; Oct-10-13 10:40 AM After reading many of the comments here, a clear pattern emerges: republicans only care about what affects them personally. The government shutdown doesn't hurt them directly, so it must not affect anyone else either."

The only ones really affected are the federal employees that are nonessential.

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TheDiogenist

Oct-10-13 3:11 PM

(Regarding Polidork's comment from 10:40) While I wouldn't agree that empathy is solely a 'liberal' phenomenon, Polidork does bring up an interesting point regarding the individualism myth. The phrase 'divide and conquer' sort of springs to mind, as any labour-minded person might tell you. But it does seem to be a common thread amongst self-described conservatives (or those vaguely identifying themselves as 'independents') that all government intervention (i.e. $$$) is bad until they personally need a dose. Such as those griping that FEMA aid didn't do enough following the flood, or wanting the state trust fund to entirely pay for expanded school facilities. Or Hoeven/Heitkamp/et al conspiring to block any studies that might remotely lead to the closure of any ND-based missile defence systems. People do love their pork...

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namexxx

Oct-10-13 3:21 PM

Keep your government hands off my Medicare!

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realwildchyld

Oct-10-13 4:09 PM

TheDiogenist

Why must you think that we need the govt for anything??? We are AMERICANS!!!!!!! we take care of ourselves and don't need big brother sticking his nose in our life at all.

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TheDiogenist

Oct-10-13 4:54 PM

"we take care of ourselves and don't need big brother sticking his nose in our life at all."

America wouldn't be great if its citizens didn't work together to accomplish great things. Part of that has been (and continues to be, if Congress might let it) through those projects realised by the federal government. As for your 'taking care of ourselves', I'm hard-put to think of a more ungrateful, egotistical, idiotic, and frankly un-American sentiment.

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TheDiogenist

Oct-10-13 5:21 PM

BDGI- What people did in the 1930s had nothing to do with bootstraps. Generally speaking, many languished in poverty and high unemployment, necessitating one of the most expansive 'government welfare' programs ever, the 'alphabet soup' of public works projects and subsidy programs you loathe that helped get people along until wartime production spurred the economy back to life. (That, and dropping the restrictive gold standard.)

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TheDiogenist

Oct-10-13 5:49 PM

There's that word again, 'everybody'. Shall I assume to find you at the great trough of government spending as well? I'm told they are giving out phones there.

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JustaMan

Oct-10-13 7:02 PM

Citizens of North Dakota need to know the stance of Kevin Cramer on the government shutdown.

Saw him standing behind Congressman Yoho of Florida who was giving what they called a Tea Party address today.

Is this what North Dakota wants or needs? I didn't vote for the guy but I do know that the Farm Bill, Medicare,Medicaid & Social Security are considered government liabilities that they would like to privatize for someone like the Koch Brothers to become Trillionaires.

As a country we need to reign in our debt but make sure the politicians we elect are working for us and not for special interests.

Kevin Cramer has been AWOL on the issues and Kevin Cramer I believe is working for someone other than North Dakotans.

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