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Do you think President Obama needs the OK from Congress before going all "cowboy" on Syria?

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realwildchyld

Aug-28-13 7:42 AM

Yes, but he has never followed any laws in his entire life so why start now?

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animal

Aug-28-13 8:13 AM

Cowboy? Really a poor choice of words, or was it? I knew that it would instantly bring forth another round of Bush bashing, and he has absolutely nothing to do with what is going on today! It is about time the boy emperor took responsibility fot our current conditions! We have no business getting involved in Syria or any other middle east conflict. Lets for once take care of America and stay the H*** out of their problems!!

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muleskinner

Aug-28-13 8:48 AM

It would be better if he would fly to Syria and join the rebels to fight the Syrian army. I will pay for the ticket.

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MattRothchild

Aug-28-13 8:49 AM

Who wrote this daily poll question...a teenager? Sheesh, you'd think that a newspaper would find a way to express itself without phrases like "...going all cowboy on..."

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MattRothchild

Aug-28-13 8:58 AM

Anyway, back to the point at hand...here we go again...another claim of weapons of mass destruction (which other sources, like the UN, are saying were used by the rebels, not the Syrian government), another decade-long military commitment in the Mid East. Clearly, we have learned nothing.

In a month or two, I'm sure I'll look out again and see all the exact same arguments and rhetoric employed as was used for Iraq. And everyone is too stupid to see everything repeating itself and step back and ask, "Wait, doesn't this sound familiar?"

Ah, but it'll be different this time, right? Because this time, "our" guy will be running it. Surely, he won't be on the take from all the same interests that "their" guy last time was, right?

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centerfield

Aug-28-13 9:50 AM

Matt is right on about the structure of the question and the juvenile mentality of the MDN people. Just a few weeks ago, people on the blog were talking about getting involved and helping the rebels. We did not do that because the question remains as to who the rebels actually are. Now, we have all these congressmen shooting off their mouths about doing something. These people have been killing each other for thousands of years and never will embrace democracy. It is up to the countries that trade with them to step in. France, Italy, China, Turkey, and others in the area need to do the dirty work. Ship the missiles to France and let them do the work. Stay out.

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Missy1

Aug-28-13 12:47 PM

Dictators don't wait for OK's.

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animal

Aug-28-13 7:32 PM

Reading all the comments made me feel good, because on this important matter left and right seemed to have the same basic reactions. But of coarse the real wingers had to go off on a tangrnt, they can never agree with anyone with common sense!!

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locomotive

Aug-28-13 11:26 PM

"These people have been killing each other for thousands of years and never will embrace democracy. It is up to the countries that trade with them to step in. France, Italy, China, Turkey, and others in the area need to do the dirty work. Ship the missiles to France and let them do the work. Stay out."

centerish, I agree wholeheartedly. Well stated.

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locomotive

Aug-28-13 11:29 PM

willgrr, do you think that any of the GOP would have been welcome to speak?

*crickets again

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locomotive

Aug-28-13 11:29 PM

Rugby, I was with you until the last sentence.

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locomotive

Aug-29-13 10:20 AM

willgrr, I'm thinking you'll have to prove your assertion they were "expressly invited" as I didn't hear anything about that at all. I'm sure much political hay would have been made had invitations been issued and then those invitations declined. That is the nature of our political culture today. Gotta prove it now.

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locomotive

Aug-29-13 2:08 PM

Broad assumptions by the Democrats again. So what else is new?

Thanks, Veritas, for providing a source (Doug Manaconis, Outside The Beltway).

Also part of that article...

"They asked a long list of Republicans to come," (activist Julian) Bond continued, "and to a man and woman they said ‘no.’ And that they would turn their backs on this event was telling of them, and the fact that they seem to want to get black votes, they’re not gonna get ‘em this way."

According to Boehner’s spokesman Michael Steel, the Ohio Republican "was invited, but spoke at the Congressional ceremony instead, as did Sens. Reid and McConnell, and Rep. Pelosi."

Sounds a little like "our MLK celebration way or the highway" to me.

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locomotive

Aug-29-13 2:09 PM

More from Mataconis...

Cantor, meanwhile, was asked 12 days ago to participate in Wednesday’s event commemorating Martin Luther King Jr.’s delivery of the famous “I Have a Dream” speech, according to an aide. The Virginia Republican, however, is currently traveling in North Dakota and Ohio, touring energy sites with Rep. Kevin Cramer, R-N.D., and participating in “nonofficial events,” according to an aide.

Cantor’s decision to turn down the invitation to speak is especially striking given his stated commitment to passing a rewrite of the Voting Rights Act in the 113th Congress, and the many opportunities he has taken over the past several weeks to publicly reflect on the experience of traveling with Rep. John Lewis, D-Ga., to Selma, Ala.

“The Leader hopes it’s an outstanding event fitting of the incredible legacy of Dr. King and is honored to have had the ability to honor that legacy earlier this year” with Lewis, said Cantor spokesman Rory Cooper.

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locomotive

Aug-29-13 2:10 PM

I heard much of Dr. King's famous speech replayed on the radio. It was stirring.

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locomotive

Aug-29-13 2:12 PM

One of the comments related to Mataconis' article was that Republicans were in an interesting situation with being invited to the MLK anniversary celebration: it was demmed if they did and demmed if they didn't. Well, especially if your names are Boehnor or Cantor, right?

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locomotive

Aug-29-13 2:19 PM

washingtonpost . com/opinions/dana-milbank-black-republicans-try-to-appropriate-martin-luther-king/2013/08/26/

This article by WA Post's Dana Milbank proves the point about "demmed if you do" etc.

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locomotive

Aug-29-13 2:32 PM

One more c/p from Dana Milbank, WA Post, 8-28-13...

The original march was a challenge to the established order. The sequel was a rally of the powerful, including three presidents. There were special entrances for “ticketed guests.” There was a $132-per-person “I Have a Dream” brunch at the Willard Hotel (with “commemorative Martin Luther King keepsake”).

“Fifty years ago, when they came to Washington, it was not for an event,” the Rev. Al Sharpton told the crowd. “It was in the middle of a struggle.”

This time, it was more of an event. Hawkers sold “Let Freedom Ring” commemorative tickets, Obama coin banks and pink buttons saying, “Hot chicks dig Obama.” One T-shirt had an altered photo of King addressing the March in a Trayvon Martin hoodie. Another showed Obama’s head atop a mountain that also had the visages of King, Malcolm X, Louis Farrakhan, Colin Powell and Muhammad Ali.

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locomotive

Aug-29-13 3:06 PM

loco says, "Another showed Obama’s head atop a mountain that also had the visages of King, Malcolm X, Louis Farrakhan, Colin Powell and Muhammad Ali."

billgitmo, I was quoting Dana Milbank, who ostensibly viewed the t-shirts he described.

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locomotive

Aug-29-13 3:15 PM

Careful, Veritas, your true colors are showing again.

As far as making "apologies,excuses, and psychobabel" for the GOP not on the platform with the 3 presidents, you're entitled to think what you want about what I posted.

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locomotive

Aug-29-13 3:18 PM

"Instead, his office decided that the best thing for the nation’s only African American senator to do was to play to the Obama hate/collective Republican persecution paranoia by claiming that he wasn’t invited."

Do you have a source for this, billgitmo?

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locomotive

Aug-29-13 3:28 PM

"“Senator Scott was not invited to speak at the event,” Greg Blair, a spokesman for the South Carolina lawmaker, said in a statement to the Washington Examiner. “The senator believes today is a day to remember the extraordinary accomplishments and sacrifices of Dr. King, Congressman John Lewis, and an entire generation of black leaders. Today’s anniversary should simply serve as an opportunity to reflect upon how their actions moved our country forward in a remarkable way.”

"Wouldn't it have made sense to have the first black president joined by the first black senator from South Carolina, which was a Jim Crow state when the original march on Washington took place?

"The Washington Examiner contacted MLK Dream 50 to ask why Scott wasn’t invited, but didn’t hear back in time for publication."

officialmlkdream50 . com/

"For All Media / Press Information please contact: Bunnie Jackson-Ransom at email First Class, Inc."

Maybe somebody else could prove o

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locomotive

Aug-29-13 3:29 PM

Maybe somebody else could prove or disprove billgitmo's post that Sen. Scott's office made a "claim" that he wasn't invited.

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locomotive

Aug-29-13 3:30 PM

I think billgitmo is channeling willgrr today. Same verbiage...

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locomotive

Aug-29-13 4:18 PM

From mediaite 8-28-13

"A discussion about the impact of the Martin Luther King Jr. “I Have a Dream” speech anniversary event veered into politics when the guests began to wonder why so few Republicans attended the event and none spoke.

"NPR host Michel Martin wondered why former President George H. W. Bush, whom she said “had a very strong record on civil rights,” was not in attendance at the Anniversary. Both Bush and his son, former President George W. Bush, declined to attend due to the former president’s ongoing recovery from a recent surgery.

"When asked why the only sitting black senator in the upper chamber of Congress was also not in attendance, USA Today columnist DeWayne Wickham said there was no real reason for him to be there in the first place.

"“And he should have been invited why?” Wickham asked. “He should have been invited to speak for what reason?”

"“He’s one of 50 Senators,” Wickham said. “And he’s appointed not elected.”

"Sco

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