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President Obama says large parts of the federal government are more efficient, transparent and accountable than at any time in U.S. history. Do you agree?

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  3. Is he serious?
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Jul-09-13 4:14 AM

it must be sad for the libs to see their messiah such an utter failure as a prez. i'm guessing He thought community organizing and lotsa golf made Him qualified for president.

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Jul-09-13 9:51 AM

Yeah im not quite sure if he knows what transparent means...

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Jul-09-13 10:27 AM

Transparent as mud.

If I had a kid that was acting as transparently toward his teachers, his coaches or his parents, he (or she) would be off to the woodshed, figuratively speaking of course.

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Jul-09-13 11:03 AM

He talks and speaks AT us, but doesn't give any examples of what he talks and speaks? What is more transparent? what is more efficient? when have they been accountable? It's easy to say the words, but prove it to the citizens with actual facts and examples!

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Jul-09-13 1:02 PM

Have to say, I don't take his claim seriously.

Is anyone willing to cite actual examples of this happening?

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Jul-09-13 2:24 PM

Is there an election this year?

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Jul-09-13 2:56 PM

OK, Veritas. You seem to want facts.

Why don't you provide the facts about the "large parts of the federal government (that) are more efficient, transparent and accountable." I can't seem to find what you seem to know.

Fire away. You have the floor.

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Jul-09-13 4:47 PM

"Government jobs (at all levels of government, including state and local) grew by 900,000 over the four years of Bush’s first term, but they fell by 720,000 over the four years of Obama’s first term. This is a net difference of 1.62 million jobs."

I found Veritas' quote on An Economic Sense (dot com). The article referenced was written Feb. 2, 2013. The author's background includes an emphasis in Keynesian economics, which includes the philosophy that government must spend itself out of a recession, i.e., stimulus, bailouts. Some other economists disagree with the Keynesian approach.

Sorry, but I can't help myself: "Taking a statement made back in Feb. & making it current is pure partisan..."

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Jul-09-13 4:59 PM

businessinsider . com/how-nsa-can-abuse-data-on-americans-2013-7

7-9-13 article

"The real problem comes with trust," NSA Whistleblower William Binney told USA Today. "It's not just the trust that you have to have in the government. It's the trust you have to have in the government employees, [that] they won't go in the database — they can see if their wife is cheating with the neighbor or something like that."

"Michael Hayden, who was NSA director (1999 – 2005) when the first domestic spy programs began, corroborated Binney's claim when he told The Daily Beast that he remembered a collector who was fired for snooping on his ex-wife overseas."

"Here's what Jonathon Turley, a constitutional law professor at George Washington University who has testified before Congress on the country's warrantless surveillance program, told ABC in 2008 after hearing the analysts' claims: "This story is to surveillance law what Abu Ghraib was to prison law.&qu

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Jul-09-13 6:51 PM

"Let's hear about your forward moving candidate!"

Veritas, it is July 2013. The next election for president is November 2016.

Just when should the parties trot out their contenders? August 2013?

I think patience is a virtue, especially in presidential politicking.

And I don't understand your "spinner" comment. Unless it means something negative. Which it probably does, coming from you.

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Jul-09-13 8:11 PM

When viewing these results -- bear in mind that this is the nation's beer guzzling capital.

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Jul-09-13 10:43 PM

From EAGnews . org 7-8-13

"Education Action Group Foundation believes the one-size-fits-all, assembly line government school system requires serious reform."

"Congressman Todd Rokita, a member of the House Education and Workforce Committee, noted at a recent hearing, 'Because the law requires students to take fruits and vegetables for lunch, even if they have no intention of eating them, schools are struggling with increased waste. After implementing the new standards a year early, one Florida school district estimated students threw out $75,000 worth of food.'"

Is this part of the federal government "more efficient" and "accountable than at any time in U.S. history?"

Read the article, Veritas...

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Jul-10-13 6:47 AM

Disprove it? With facts? The burden of proof is not on me! It's on the person who makes the claim!

And you never did provide two examples, either. I know, because I read back through your comments.

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Jul-10-13 9:24 AM

"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money."

Margaret Thatcher

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Jul-10-13 10:10 AM

You nitwits keep referring to food stamp consumption but don't accept that most of the States at the top of the list are Red states. Just like the Bush era of Federal government, the Republican states are being terribly miss managed. But, keep on with the talking points.

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Jul-10-13 10:35 AM

ND is one of the nation's biggest welfare queens.

When you ignoramuses complain about foodstamps -- you're complaining about yourselves.

Oh yeah, and ND is also the #1 beer guzzling state. So, you're not just a state of moochers -- you're also a bunch of drunks.

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Jul-10-13 11:28 AM

Food Research And Action Center April 2013

"Increases in SNAP caseloads between April 2012 and April 2013 occurred in 39 states and the District of Columbia. The three states registering over-the-year percentage increases of eight percent or higher were MD, IL, WY."

frac . org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/snapdata2013_april . pdf

This pdf has data of "SNAP Number of persons participating" in 3 different tables detailing changes in 1 month, 1 year, and 5 years. A 4th table details the "share of population participating" with "data as of July 5, 2013."

#1 Oregon had 50.3% of its estimated population participating

#2 Illinois had 24.8%

#3 District of Columbia had 23.8%

#4 Mississippi had 22.3%

#5 New Mexico had 21.4%

And North Dakota? 8.4%

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Jul-10-13 11:39 AM

Now for the color of the top 5 states...

Oregon BLUE

Illinois BLUE

District of Columbia BLUE

Mississippi RED


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Jul-10-13 11:56 AM

"Ten States that Rely Most on Food Stamps" Huffington Post, 11-8-12

10. South Carolina 18.2% of population

9. Maine 18.6%

8. West Virginia 18.7%

7. Kentucky 18.8%

6. Louisiana 19.2%

5. Michigan 19.7%

4. New Mexico 19.8%

3. Tennessee 19.8%

2. Oregon 20.1%

1. Mississippi 20.7%

"Of all the disastrous consequences of the economic crisis, perhaps the most devastating is the idea of even more Americans struggling to feed their families.

"Recent statistics from the USDA indicate that 14.2 percent of the U.S. population was using food stamps in February 2011, or around 44.2 million total, up from 33 million just two years before in 2009."

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Jul-10-13 11:58 AM

Now centerish/namexxx can do some color coding for the Huff Post data cited.

I gotta run...

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Jul-10-13 1:15 PM

Obama can say whatever he wants, but it doesn't make it true.

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Jul-10-13 11:07 PM

"...I believe the statement (Veritas' own) stands until proven untrue...

"Sorry, anything Issa, Rush, Fox says has no credibility...Nadda!"

So Veritas is able to predetermine that any statement coming from these certain sources already has no credibility. Very interesting.

What's good for Veritas is not good for anyone else, that "standing by a statement until it's proven false" business.

So we're to believe ALL statements made by Issa, Rush, Fox have been proven false, not to mention the ones they haven't made yet, all because they have "no credibility" in Veritas' mind?

Sure, nice work if you can get it.

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Jul-10-13 11:49 PM

Well, I looked at frac . org again and found the 104 pg. pdf file "Profile of Hunger, Poverty and Federal Nutrition Programs."

I picked one designation, "child poverty rate - rank among states," and determined the 10 states with the highest rank.

Then I went to wiki for a list of "US state legislatures" after Nov. 2012 elections and found those 10 states, whether they were blue or red.

Here's the list...

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Jul-10-13 11:55 PM

Child Poverty Rate (Rank Among States)

#1 Mississippi RED

#2 New Mexico BLUE

#3 District of Columbia BLUE

#4 Louisiana RED

#5 Arkansas RED

#6 South Carolina RED

#7 Alabama RED

#8 Kentucky BLUE

#9 Arizona RED

#10 Texas RED

Veritas is close, but no cigar. Just 7 out of 10 on the child poverty rate rankings.

Isn't it true that you can make statistics say anything? I just did.

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Jul-11-13 7:36 AM

Veritas, if I have the time to do it, I will.

Otherwise, you could broaden your perspective by not thinking the worst and then trying to find something credible by these sources yourself.

Don't worry. Your brain won't explode. I promise.

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