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Teachers in Minot Public Schools are asking for raises and better benefits by 14.1 percent over the next two years. What do you expect from your job?

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May-24-13 6:52 AM

I thought they legislated the minimum pay of teachers in the last session? I suppose the ones with so called seniority can't stand the new teachers getting paid more without the same increase across the board. There goes the property tax relief money we have to fight each other over.

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May-24-13 9:23 AM

Give them a raise WHEN THEY EARN ONE! They work less than anybody I know and ask for more. The kids coming out of school now can't read, can't write, and god forbid ask them to do math without a computer, they can't add 2 and 2

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May-24-13 9:54 AM

These teachers aren't worth sh_t! I asked a junior in high school in Minot the other day. Quess what? She couldn't tell me the time on the clock with hands on it. She had to get her cell phone to tell me. And these "Teachers want more money for their so call hard work." GET REAL!!!

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May-24-13 10:52 AM

If I was doing it over again, I would only send my children to Private Schools.

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May-24-13 10:55 AM

@chasinND...looking at your spelling and punctuation, I'd say you're in no position to judge teachers

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May-24-13 12:37 PM

Going to get flamed here but a lot of "teacher issues" you mention are because of Government constraints and programs. As for telling time on a real clock, where does the parent come in and either correct it or talk to someone about changing the way it is taught?

Now on the other hand, how many "teachers" graduate from MSU every year, knowing exactly what the pay is and how low it is, buttered your bread, now eat it, JMHO.

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May-24-13 2:47 PM

I expect to go to work from 10 am to 4 pm, have two hour lunches, have weekends off, six weeks of paid vacation, paid holidays observed in all countries, when it's Canada Day, I get the day off. Of course, double time on Saturdays and double time and a half on Sundays, 30 sick days, a base salary of 500,000 dollars and monthly bonuses of 10,000 dollars, all taxes and insurances paid by my employer.

In total, 620,000 dollars of net pay for a 3 hour work day, call me when you need me work week otherwise don't bother me kind of job.

That's what I expect from my job, but somehow, those are expectations that might not be realized, but I can dream.

There are no free lunches.

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May-24-13 7:57 PM

LOL, I believe the grammar and spelling prove the point. Teachers are doing a poor job.

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May-25-13 12:54 AM

Kind've find it funny how they want to send first graders home with a ton of homework so that dad and mom who actually work a full week can now do the teacher's job! Teaching isn't a hard job....those saying it is have not worked a tough job. By he way .....bullying in school is a result of teachers not stepping up and putting a stop to it.....#sittin in the teacher's lounge

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May-25-13 7:10 AM

Making a note for future discussions on MDN...ignorance and stupidity is a valid strategy. Got it.

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May-25-13 7:54 AM

I think 14% is a bit too much. However does anyone here feel like spending the day with 15 smart mouthed kids in a room? Not me.

For their patients I give them a 10 on a scale of one to 10. Give me 30 minutes in a room full of 8 year olds and I would be long gone.

There are good teachers and bad teachers. Some only want to teach the smart kids and ignore the not getting it ones.. Others will work very hard to try to bring about a kid who doesn't want to learn.

Like kids they come in all different sizes, shapes and capabilities.

And some have parents who have given their kids manners and others send them to school with no manners at all. Spoiled Brats versus Properly raised.

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May-25-13 11:29 AM

There sure are a lot of angry, heartless people on this board. And it's interesting that the same people that promote individual responsibility vilify teachers because students don't learn enough. As if parents have no role in educating their own children! You hate the state, then want the state to do all your child-rearing for you. You hate the underpaid teachers, even thought the school system is one of the primary modes by which we socialize and prepare our youth for positive adulthood. What we see here on the MDN comments section is a middle class at one another's throats, debating a pittance of a raise for teachers while ignoring larger issues: corporations shirk their tax duties, make record profits, and leave us to fight over the scraps. You people need to cultivate some class consciousness. After all, you're in this mess together.

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May-25-13 12:35 PM

14% is no pittance. I was a teacher before I was a nurse. Teaching is NOT year round work. I remember in 69 after the 6 weeks of flooding, the Minot teachers went on strike. Those involved were forever banned from teaching in Minot. I realize that teachers are forced to participate in many federal mandates. The first three grades should be building the foundation in reading, writing and 'ritmatic upon which the following teachers expound the knowledge and competence of each student. Without the foundation, all is lost.

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May-25-13 1:11 PM

Disgusted: it depends on what it's 14% of. Given how much ND teachers make, it sure seems like a pittance to me. When you were a teacher, was income inequality at the point where it is today?

Many of you harp on the 'summers off' thing. Do you know that teachers only get paid for 9 months, but they can choose to take that salary over the entire year? What exactly do you people propose teachers do during their summers off? Get one of those many, summer-only jobs that so many businesses are trying to fill?

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May-25-13 2:15 PM

They work 9 months, but chose to get paid over 12. AND? When I was a teacher, I never thought about what other jobs paid. I took the job, therefore, I accepted what came with it. I figured that if I wanted a different salary, I would work to get that particular job. It did not occur to me to demand more in any particular job I held. Hospital staff in Minot never get a 7% raise, much less 14%. And, yes, if they can't live on the salary they are paid, then they get a second job. What is the big deal?

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May-25-13 5:29 PM

polidork 14% is not a pittance.. Seems your math teacher didn't do so well with you.

When you go to college and you select a career are you saying that teachers are too dumb to know what it is they are selecting as a career?

I think not. MANY people become teachers BECAUSE they get the summers off. MANY teachers become teachers because they want to have their evenings off, their weekends off and their holidays off just as their children do. Its a very compatible job for a person who has a family as far as hours and summers off go.

A teacher applies for a job, is offered a contract, and signs on the dotted line. They know full well going in exactly how many days they work, how much they get paid, and how many days they have off.

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out what your contract says.

Like any job...its your choice.. they usually don't come looking for you.. you go looking for the job.

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May-25-13 6:42 PM

well said, billdoesntgetit. No one in this country is forced into any certain job or profession.

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May-25-13 10:21 PM

This board needs to approach the situation as the employer, since it is our collective money paying their salary. Many on this board are complaining about the quality of local education. So, what do we do to fix it? What is more important? A few extra dollars in our pocket or attracting prospective quality teachers and rewarding longevity? How important is education? Trucks with aftermarket accessories and lift kits seem to be pretty important around here, as seen by consumer choice. So consumer, are you ready to give up one accessory and help your kid get the best education they deserve?

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May-25-13 11:23 PM

How about we give up just one sports program and keep the kids 45 minutes longer in the classroom getting the education we are expected to pay for?

Taxpayers are on the hook for education. We are not on the hook for sports programs.

Facts will show kids in private schools and home schooled kids have higher grades then those in public school.. Home schools and most private schools don't have extensive/expensive sports programs.

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May-25-13 11:25 PM

MinotDad Money does not make your kid smarter. The cost of putting a child in school for the year is going up ..most test scores are staying the same or declining.

We need to fix education and it does not need to be done with MORE MONEY.

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May-25-13 11:48 PM


Do you buy quality Bud Light or are you satisfied with Old Milwaukee? In order to fix anything, it always involves money. Menards can teach you that lesson in just one visit.

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May-26-13 12:51 AM

I like how teachers get ripped apart for all children's issues. Do I agree with teachers getting a 14 percent raise in 2 years NO no one else does. All I'm saying is if things need to be changed its not going to happen here. Blame congress teachers teach curriculum they don't write it.

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May-26-13 1:14 AM

@Minotdad- bud light is about quantity, not quality. It's the best selling beer in the world and has the highest margin. Source- I brew beer. Agree with you regarding return on investment, just not the bud light metaphor. Also agree with laughing at financial priorities of this State. The world is changing around ND, and ND isn't going to change with it. I'm undecided how I feel about that.

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May-26-13 8:14 AM

There are 60,000 workers needed in the oil patch in North Dakota and all of those jobs pay more than what teachers can earn.

Maybe if those in the teaching profession would seek an oil patch job, they wouldn't have to beg taxpayers for more.

Get a job elsewhere if you want more money. That is how the marketplace works. Join the real world and learn a thing or two about a thing or two.

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May-26-13 8:34 AM

Just the Facts!

Despite pumping billions of dollars into public schools for more than 40 years, the most recent data show a public education system that cannot turn money alone into positive results.

Even after a decade of "No Child Left Behind" initiatives and a recent surge of more than $80 billion in federal stimulus since 2009 intended to lift student performance quickly, there is no significant gain.

A study by State Budget Solutions comparing state spending on education, standardized test scores and graduation rates shows both performance measures prove there was little aggregate cumulative improvement in America's public school system when it comes to teaching our young.

Money is not the answer to better schools. Get Federal Government OUT!

Return this to State and Local(mostly Local) and watch the kids thrive.

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