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Teachers in Minot Public Schools are asking for raises and better benefits by 14.1 percent over the next two years. What do you expect from your job?

  1. About that
  2. Much less
  3. Less
  4. A little bit
  5. None
 
 
 
 
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EarlyBird

May-24-13 6:52 AM

I thought they legislated the minimum pay of teachers in the last session? I suppose the ones with so called seniority can't stand the new teachers getting paid more without the same increase across the board. There goes the property tax relief money we have to fight each other over.

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ChasinND

May-24-13 9:54 AM

These teachers aren't worth sh_t! I asked a junior in high school in Minot the other day. Quess what? She couldn't tell me the time on the clock with hands on it. She had to get her cell phone to tell me. And these "Teachers want more money for their so call hard work." GET REAL!!!

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Missy1

May-24-13 10:52 AM

If I was doing it over again, I would only send my children to Private Schools.

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LOLMinot

May-24-13 10:55 AM

@chasinND...looking at your spelling and punctuation, I'd say you're in no position to judge teachers

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73Hockey

May-24-13 12:37 PM

Going to get flamed here but a lot of "teacher issues" you mention are because of Government constraints and programs. As for telling time on a real clock, where does the parent come in and either correct it or talk to someone about changing the way it is taught?

Now on the other hand, how many "teachers" graduate from MSU every year, knowing exactly what the pay is and how low it is, buttered your bread, now eat it, JMHO.

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muleskinner

May-24-13 2:47 PM

I expect to go to work from 10 am to 4 pm, have two hour lunches, have weekends off, six weeks of paid vacation, paid holidays observed in all countries, when it's Canada Day, I get the day off. Of course, double time on Saturdays and double time and a half on Sundays, 30 sick days, a base salary of 500,000 dollars and monthly bonuses of 10,000 dollars, all taxes and insurances paid by my employer.

In total, 620,000 dollars of net pay for a 3 hour work day, call me when you need me work week otherwise don't bother me kind of job.

That's what I expect from my job, but somehow, those are expectations that might not be realized, but I can dream.

There are no free lunches.

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disgusted

May-24-13 7:57 PM

LOL, I believe the grammar and spelling prove the point. Teachers are doing a poor job.

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KneeAwn

May-25-13 12:54 AM

Kind've find it funny how they want to send first graders home with a ton of homework so that dad and mom who actually work a full week can now do the teacher's job! Teaching isn't a hard job....those saying it is have not worked a tough job. By he way .....bullying in school is a result of teachers not stepping up and putting a stop to it.....#sittin in the teacher's lounge

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LOLMinot

May-25-13 7:10 AM

Making a note for future discussions on MDN...ignorance and stupidity is a valid strategy. Got it.

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polidork

May-25-13 11:29 AM

There sure are a lot of angry, heartless people on this board. And it's interesting that the same people that promote individual responsibility vilify teachers because students don't learn enough. As if parents have no role in educating their own children! You hate the state, then want the state to do all your child-rearing for you. You hate the underpaid teachers, even thought the school system is one of the primary modes by which we socialize and prepare our youth for positive adulthood. What we see here on the MDN comments section is a middle class at one another's throats, debating a pittance of a raise for teachers while ignoring larger issues: corporations shirk their tax duties, make record profits, and leave us to fight over the scraps. You people need to cultivate some class consciousness. After all, you're in this mess together.

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disgusted

May-25-13 12:35 PM

14% is no pittance. I was a teacher before I was a nurse. Teaching is NOT year round work. I remember in 69 after the 6 weeks of flooding, the Minot teachers went on strike. Those involved were forever banned from teaching in Minot. I realize that teachers are forced to participate in many federal mandates. The first three grades should be building the foundation in reading, writing and 'ritmatic upon which the following teachers expound the knowledge and competence of each student. Without the foundation, all is lost.

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polidork

May-25-13 1:11 PM

Disgusted: it depends on what it's 14% of. Given how much ND teachers make, it sure seems like a pittance to me. When you were a teacher, was income inequality at the point where it is today?

Many of you harp on the 'summers off' thing. Do you know that teachers only get paid for 9 months, but they can choose to take that salary over the entire year? What exactly do you people propose teachers do during their summers off? Get one of those many, summer-only jobs that so many businesses are trying to fill?

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disgusted

May-25-13 2:15 PM

They work 9 months, but chose to get paid over 12. AND? When I was a teacher, I never thought about what other jobs paid. I took the job, therefore, I accepted what came with it. I figured that if I wanted a different salary, I would work to get that particular job. It did not occur to me to demand more in any particular job I held. Hospital staff in Minot never get a 7% raise, much less 14%. And, yes, if they can't live on the salary they are paid, then they get a second job. What is the big deal?

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disgusted

May-25-13 6:42 PM

well said, billdoesntgetit. No one in this country is forced into any certain job or profession.

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MinotDad

May-25-13 10:21 PM

This board needs to approach the situation as the employer, since it is our collective money paying their salary. Many on this board are complaining about the quality of local education. So, what do we do to fix it? What is more important? A few extra dollars in our pocket or attracting prospective quality teachers and rewarding longevity? How important is education? Trucks with aftermarket accessories and lift kits seem to be pretty important around here, as seen by consumer choice. So consumer, are you ready to give up one accessory and help your kid get the best education they deserve?

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MinotDad

May-25-13 11:48 PM

Bill-

Do you buy quality Bud Light or are you satisfied with Old Milwaukee? In order to fix anything, it always involves money. Menards can teach you that lesson in just one visit.

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sunup00

May-26-13 12:51 AM

I like how teachers get ripped apart for all children's issues. Do I agree with teachers getting a 14 percent raise in 2 years NO no one else does. All I'm saying is if things need to be changed its not going to happen here. Blame congress teachers teach curriculum they don't write it.

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LOLMinot

May-26-13 1:14 AM

@Minotdad- bud light is about quantity, not quality. It's the best selling beer in the world and has the highest margin. Source- I brew beer. Agree with you regarding return on investment, just not the bud light metaphor. Also agree with laughing at financial priorities of this State. The world is changing around ND, and ND isn't going to change with it. I'm undecided how I feel about that.

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muleskinner

May-26-13 8:14 AM

There are 60,000 workers needed in the oil patch in North Dakota and all of those jobs pay more than what teachers can earn.

Maybe if those in the teaching profession would seek an oil patch job, they wouldn't have to beg taxpayers for more.

Get a job elsewhere if you want more money. That is how the marketplace works. Join the real world and learn a thing or two about a thing or two.

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amilian

May-26-13 12:11 PM

My son is special needs. His teachers have gone above and beyond to help him excel and spend a lot of their time outside the classroom researching and working on plans. People seem to forget they spend personal time and money on their jobs. I think they deserve it and more.

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amilian

May-26-13 9:00 PM

Billyoujustdontgetit my autistic son is in a regular classroom. I do think police, fireman, and teacher are heros and deserve more than they are given.

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amilian

May-26-13 10:34 PM

My son is doing well thanks to all the hard work educators, drs, and myself put into helping him. Its not about him though. They get paid for the hours they work yes. That is not the question though. Its if they deserve more pay. Classrooms for alot of teachers have grown. My son's was 30 kids just last year. So yes in my opinion they deserve more. I've seen how much they get paid and have worked with many who have had to get that second job. Can we afford to give them the 14%, no. But i feel they are under paid. Also i am aware how much they get paid.

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amilian

May-26-13 10:36 PM

I am on a mobile and didnt mean to say 2x i knew how much they get paid.

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MinotDad

May-27-13 12:24 AM

We absolutely can afford seven percent each year. There are people in the surrounding area that went from poverty to millions by striking oil. Money is there, but it's the choice of those not to contribute, not the unsupported "can't afford it" claim

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polidork

May-27-13 6:30 PM

Disgusted: 1st, 14% is a pittance depending on what it's 14% of (i.e. if it's a dollar, it's 14 cents); the point was that since ND already has the lowest paid teachers in the nation, the raise they're asking for is quite meager.

2nd, AND you and others on this board are stressing that teachers only work 9 months of the year but get paid for 12 so they don't deserve more money. I'm correcting that misconception: teachers get paid for 9 months of work, but they can take that money spread out over the whole year. Certainly you can grasp why such an arrangement is a convenience, not a benefit.

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