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Teachers in Minot Public Schools are asking for raises and better benefits by 14.1 percent over the next two years. What do you expect from your job?

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locomotive

May-30-13 3:45 PM

Let's hear it for the nurses!

:-)

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disgusted

May-30-13 2:14 AM

bill, those are kind words that nurses around the world should hear.

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billldoesntgetit

May-28-13 11:11 PM

Folks I think disgusted deserves a 14% raise in pay. She serves the public and is one of our unsung heroes who tends to peoples needs night and day whatever the shift demands..

I think nurses are the backbone of our hospitals and handle all the unpleasant duties and yet get no recognition EVER>!

My Granddaughter is a Nurse and she was so please one night when one of her patients was getting close to the end.. The Family asked her to come in and pray with them..

Nurses are special people. Thank You disgusted for your service and dedication to people in need.

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disgusted

May-28-13 9:21 PM

locomotive, I think the base figure was $32,000 from the legislature.

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disgusted

May-28-13 9:20 PM

amilian states a belief in the teachers deserve more pay, but doesn't know how much they deserve. It would be great if everyone got what they and everyone else believed they deserved. That, however, includes being fired when anyone slacks, performs poorly or abuses the system.

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locomotive

May-28-13 8:25 PM

Why, of course you did, namexxx aka sunshine.

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namexxx

May-28-13 4:40 PM

No, I meant yours, Einstein.

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locomotive

May-28-13 12:41 PM

My friend, a teacher, told me the state's recent legislative session made provision for their district's base pay to rise significantly. Ask your teacher friends if their district benefitted, and if not, why not.

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locomotive

May-28-13 12:38 PM

"They deserve twice the pay just for agreeing to be in enclosed rooms with those addle-brained baby Neanderthals."

You mean your children, namexxx?

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billldoesntgetit

May-27-13 11:44 PM

What do I expect from my job?

I came into this world with nothing and fortunate for me I have been able to keep most of it.

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billldoesntgetit

May-27-13 11:25 PM

polidork You do realize that these same teachers are allowed to take another job and work all summer if they choose to. So they can get 2 paychecks all summer long.

Why would anyone choose to be a teacher in North Dakota if the wages are so bad? Why would anyone make that their profession if its such a bad bad job and the pay is so terribly low..

Then lets not forget that they get medical, retirement, and vacation and sick leave pay in this terrible job.

Polidork I suspect you cannot do the math on 14% of the yearly salary. One thing I think most of you bloggers don't see that are pushing for these higher wages is you cannot take money away from them. You will be stuck with high taxes to pay high salaries your entire life so be careful what you wish for..

Anyone EVER seen a teacher take a 14% decrease in pay when times get rough?

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namexxx

May-27-13 9:10 PM

They deserve twice the pay just for agreeing to be in enclosed rooms with those addle-brained baby Neanderthals.

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disgusted

May-27-13 8:20 PM

When people speak of teachers' salaries, they are referring to salary per school year. That is implied when they say $42,0000 a year. How many teachers do you know that make $1.00/year. You are really failing in your arguments.

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polidork

May-27-13 6:30 PM

Disgusted: 1st, 14% is a pittance depending on what it's 14% of (i.e. if it's a dollar, it's 14 cents); the point was that since ND already has the lowest paid teachers in the nation, the raise they're asking for is quite meager.

2nd, AND you and others on this board are stressing that teachers only work 9 months of the year but get paid for 12 so they don't deserve more money. I'm correcting that misconception: teachers get paid for 9 months of work, but they can take that money spread out over the whole year. Certainly you can grasp why such an arrangement is a convenience, not a benefit.

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billldoesntgetit

May-27-13 8:49 AM

amilian You are missing the point. You say 30 kids in a classroom.. If the 14% is given to the current teachers there is no money left in the pot to hire more teachers.

It appears to me that additional teachers should be hired at the going rate instead of paying those already there a lot more money.

You cannot reduce class size by giving the current teachers 14% but you can lower class sizes by giving current teacher 4% and spending the additional 10% on new teachers.

Money spent on raises does not lower class size.

MinotDad NOT EVERYONE in Minot became a Millionaire.. Speak for yourself.. Others are finding it harder then ever to make ends meet right now.

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MinotDad

May-27-13 12:24 AM

We absolutely can afford seven percent each year. There are people in the surrounding area that went from poverty to millions by striking oil. Money is there, but it's the choice of those not to contribute, not the unsupported "can't afford it" claim

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amilian

May-26-13 10:36 PM

I am on a mobile and didnt mean to say 2x i knew how much they get paid.

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amilian

May-26-13 10:34 PM

My son is doing well thanks to all the hard work educators, drs, and myself put into helping him. Its not about him though. They get paid for the hours they work yes. That is not the question though. Its if they deserve more pay. Classrooms for alot of teachers have grown. My son's was 30 kids just last year. So yes in my opinion they deserve more. I've seen how much they get paid and have worked with many who have had to get that second job. Can we afford to give them the 14%, no. But i feel they are under paid. Also i am aware how much they get paid.

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billldoesntgetit

May-26-13 10:18 PM

amilian.. More then they are "given"

They work for wages just like the other 99%^ of the working class. They deserve the wage they signed up to get.. Nothing more nothing less. Their benefits are out of this world.. Did you know you can look up your sons teachers wages right on line?

Congrats..He is in a regular classroom. That means he is doing quite well. Just because your son is autistic it does not require your employer to pay you more, it doesn't require your spouses employer to pay him/her more and it does not entitle the teacher to more money.

The teachers are trained to work with special needs and they get paid better then other teachers for doing so.

You really need to do some research on wages at the schools.

Teachers, cops and firemen deserve what they get paid. I deserve what I get paid. I worked 8 hours for 8 hours pay. Its called Freedom. If the wages are not high enough pack your bags and get another job. Lots of people are in line for your job as for

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amilian

May-26-13 9:00 PM

Billyoujustdontgetit my autistic son is in a regular classroom. I do think police, fireman, and teacher are heros and deserve more than they are given.

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billldoesntgetit

May-26-13 2:36 PM

amilian.. All kids are special. They all have needs. Some more then others. I have two special Grandsons who require assistance in school. Those teachers with the degree to teach these children get paid a higher salary then teachers with a regular degree. They ARE COMPENSATED for what they do.

Like Police, Fireman and Teachers everyone thinks they are a ":special breed".. These are folks who signed up/applied for a job knowing (if they have a brain) what the job entails, what its pitfalls are and what it pays.

People try to make hero's out of those folks for doing their job. Everyone who HAS a job is doing what they hired on to do.

Enough of putting regular human beings on a pedestal.You are who you are you do what you do and you don't ask for excessive money because you are a teacher, a cop or a firefighter.

Its called an occupation!!

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amilian

May-26-13 12:11 PM

My son is special needs. His teachers have gone above and beyond to help him excel and spend a lot of their time outside the classroom researching and working on plans. People seem to forget they spend personal time and money on their jobs. I think they deserve it and more.

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billldoesntgetit

May-26-13 8:40 AM

Minotdad.. You need to read the stats.. Money is obviously not the answer.. If it was with the money spent in the last decade every kid should be getting 4.0 and acing the tests..

That's not happening..

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billldoesntgetit

May-26-13 8:39 AM

The federal government has spent more than $293 billion in the past decade to improve student academic performance, on top of a combined $5.5 trillion spent by the states. But despite priority treatment from Presidents Bush and Obama, reading and math proficiency levels haven't budged. A quarter of high school seniors don't meet basic reading standards and a third fall below basic math proficiency.

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billldoesntgetit

May-26-13 8:34 AM

Just the Facts!

Despite pumping billions of dollars into public schools for more than 40 years, the most recent data show a public education system that cannot turn money alone into positive results.

Even after a decade of "No Child Left Behind" initiatives and a recent surge of more than $80 billion in federal stimulus since 2009 intended to lift student performance quickly, there is no significant gain.

A study by State Budget Solutions comparing state spending on education, standardized test scores and graduation rates shows both performance measures prove there was little aggregate cumulative improvement in America's public school system when it comes to teaching our young.

Money is not the answer to better schools. Get Federal Government OUT!

Return this to State and Local(mostly Local) and watch the kids thrive.

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