oblundercare is only for the peasants.our elite need better care to live longer and prosper.
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All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others
- George Orwell, Animal Farm
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ObamaCare states that "affordable insurance" means that you pay no more than 8% of your annual income on insurance.
There are three tiers of plans you or your employer can purchase on the exchange they range from lower quality, but more affordable "Bronze plans", to "Silver plans" to a more expensive plan with better coverage called a "Gold plan". There is also a "Platinum plan" which is the highest quality and cost plan. Lower premium plans will have higher deductibles.
It is not the same level of care for everybody according to this. Terrible ideas in this plan.
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obamacare is a socialist nightmare, they should be forced to participate just like everyone else. Maybe if they have to live like the rest of us they might actually make some changes that make sense!
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"There’s no effort to “exempt” Congress from Obamacare. No matter how this shakes out, Congress will have to follow the law, just like everyone else does."
Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) proposed an amendment forcing all members of Congress and all of their staffs to enter the exchanges. The purpose of the amendment was to embarrass the Democrats.
Democrats instead embraced the amendment and added it to the law. Here’s the relevant text:
The only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and congressional staff with respect to their service as a Member of Congress or congressional staff shall be health plans that are — (I) created under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act); or (II) offered through an Exchange established under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act).
This was an offhand amendment that was supposed to be rejected.
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cont. Let’s stop for a moment here and explain why this is unusual. Large employers — defined in the law as employers with more than 100 employees — aren’t allowed onto the insurance exchanges until 2017, and only then if a state makes an affirmative decision to let them in.
That could lead to a lot of staffers quitting Congress because they can’t afford to shoulder 100 percent of their premiums.
Political pandering by Republicans on Obamacare (Again) proves the Un-Affordability of Insurance as it is, but from a perspective of "don't fix it if it ain't broke" continue to move backwards instead of forwards to any resolve.
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40% of Republicans believe that the ACA is not the law of the land. All they can do is stoke FEAR.
Garr you really stoking the flames this morning aren't you with more of your lies.. We know its the law of the land.. We know its going to cause huge economic problems for America, We know its going to put Millions more on welfare and we know that welfare is paid for by the taxpayer. Now people like you think it comes from Obamas stash.. Your a sicko bunch that support this Obamacare that is going to bankrupt the country.
My insurance premiums go up and I pay more to pay for those on welfare?medicaid..just wait till Millions more go on it and see where the rates go.
Just another big dammmmmm lie from Ovomit...
Eventually we will have two classes of people.. The very very wealthy like Gates, Buffett and the very very poor. Obamacare will wipe out the middle class. They will pay out so much they will eventually give up, quit working and live on welfare. Why not? The welfare people don't pay for ****tttt.. Its all free... They can smoke dope and blog on the computer all day f
Garr How come Obama can't lower the unemployment rate? I thought he was the answer to Americas prayers.
Excluding January 2009, the month when Barack Obama was inaugurated, unemployment has stayed above 8 percent, which is longer than under any other administration since the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) started measuring the monthly jobless rate: Over 8 percent for 43 months during Obama compared to a total of 39 months above 8 percent between 1948 and 2008.
Over the course of 50 years, the unemployment rate in the United States was above 8 percent for a total of 3 years and 3 months; under Obama alone, the rate has been above 8 percent for 3 years and 7 months IN A ROW.
This guy is worthless. He is not a leader..
Members of Congress are not under "Obamacare", but as Federal employees they have their health insurance the same as the military. The staff members are not under the Federal plan, so they would be required to purchase health insurance. Also, in case of hospitalization, family members of Congress are not covered under the Federal plan, so they would have to be covered under "Obamacare".
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Oh, my goodness, we need to stop all comments in support of Obamacare as the correct information is on the Drudge report. Boy, does that make it all right. Dusty, you better keep on running and not looking over your shoulder. Billwillnevereverevergetit is gaining on you in the regurgitation of right wing garbage and insane comment section. Billwhatever "knows" all those things he posted because he got them from right wing garbage sources. You hear the same lies for years now and to you it is the truth. Drudge is not a quality source and never has been one. Rumor and innuendo is what you deal with. Oh, and willie is correct on the 40% of repubs comment. I heard it on MSNBC. See, we can quote from sources just like you.
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This is another example of republicans getting worked up over a lie that they created. The MDN should be embarrassed for publishing this absurd and erroneous question. Perhaps tomorrow they will ask: "Should GOP lawmakers be allowed to collect a salary from the government when they're really working for the interests of their corporate masters?" Yes or No!
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I heard Obama say in his speech the other day how Obama Care has been working for 3 years now. Have any of you seen that it's working for You? My premiums go up every year and I don't think this year will be any different. My son is trying to get his own insurance for his family now. Does look like those Premiums are any more affordable, since I have to help him pay for it. Mom has decided to stay home with baby. She lost her insurance. I will not give up my Blue Cross- Blue Shield for any of this Junk Obama Care. So now I get to pay for 2 family insurance policies.
Polidork---Funny name, good post.
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Can't even post a dot organization or a ach tee tee pee slash slash.
Hope they don't censor peeee
I'm not answering this question, just posting. It's a : "do you still beat your wife" question. Read it over and over and can't figure it out. And there aren't even a lot of words. huh.
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Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.) revealed that some members of his party opposed expanding background checks for gun sales recently because they didn't want to "be seen helping the President."
Toomey explained, “In the end it didn’t pass because we’re so politicized. There were some on my side who did not want to be seen helping the president do something he wanted to get done, just because the president wanted to do it.”
I'm certain this will be seen as a loose/loose for the party who doesn't want to protect US citizens from guns sold like trading cards and certainly applies likewise that lives mean nothing and taxes mean everything.
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90% say no to Congress opting out of Obamacare.
Common sense has paid a visit on the MDN poll today. Huzzahs!
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I asked one question. If Obama Care has been intact for three years, how has it helped you? What is your reply? Nothing but junk.
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my goodness. animal makes sense once again. yes, pay congress for the work they do (most of them would go broke), and make them live under the same laws they force on us. agreed!
But you see Loco, congressional workers are Federal employees and therefore benefit from their employer paying a portion of HC costs. But large employers are locked out of the exchanges 'til 2017, I guess to let things shack out. So the Federal gov't, the Fed. employees employer, can't pay it share of the employees HC cost so the fed employees will be stuck with 100% of the cost. That's the problem; they want to exclude Federal employees from the amendment that Grassly put in the law so that the gov't can pay the subsidy which they would pay anyway as things are now.
Missy1---It hasn't been in affect for three years. Parts have, but not the major parts.
No payout limits are allowed any longer, pre-existing condition denial isn't allowed...other things, but not the big stuff.
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Rajiihammr, I did that Calculator. I don't have an Employer. I work for myself. I have no employees. That Calculator is Stupid.
It reminds me off, "How much money do you make?" Send it in.
Missy---If you are self employed you deduct HC ins. So what's the big whoppers doo?
You're son, just guessing...family of 5/3 kids under 21, $800 policy/$190 his monthly cost. Just ball parking.
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