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Seminar offers insights into natural gas as fuel

May 2, 2014

Individuals and companies interested in natural gas as a vehicle fuel had a chance to talk with industry representatives and get a first-hand look at equipment during a seminar in Minot Thursda....

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EarlyBird

May-04-14 8:50 AM

I wish we could all have a turn in Bismarck, then we could all have our pockets lined with greenbacks. (Is greenback racial?) lol!!!

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EarlyBird

May-04-14 7:52 AM

You are right Baffled... that is why there were several new business starting up to convert flare gas to electricity right at the wellhead. Continental has more lobbyists than we have politicians so ol Hammsy is making progress while he can. We really should send a whole new group to Bismarck to see if they are for the people or for the government.

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Baffledbyliberals

May-03-14 3:27 PM

How do you get the flare gas to your facility, I said before, there isn't pipelines tying each location together to collect all the gas to run into your facility.......so, we're back at the beginning! Until the pipeline infrastructure is in place, no cost effective way of collecting the gas! Once again, if it was easy to collect without pipelines the big oil companies would get it, not just flare it!!

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EarlyBird

May-03-14 1:46 PM

Baffled... "Here's where it gets tricky for liberals: if I came up up with a collection system of some sort, the cost to build it would be more than the gas sells for........mmmmmk?"

Whats so tricky about using some of the wasted natural gas as an energy source to run a compressor station to liquefy the rest of the wasted gas and get it into a pipeline going somewhere. Maybe energy costs were not in your cost assessment.

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Baffledbyliberals

May-03-14 7:52 AM

Early bird: I realize the temperature needs to be lowered, nat gas condenses at -360F• this is not an easy feat! See, once you get to that temp. you need to keep it there, this is where it gets expensive. Here's where it gets tricky for liberals: if I came up up with a collection system of some sort, the cost to build it would be more than the gas sells for........mmmmmk? Like I said before, if it was an easy money maker for oil, they'd get it......and legend, no we're not capturing any of the Bakken gas! They'd like to see 85% collected in two years, "pipe dreams"!!! You were right about 1 thing, nat gas does come from a pipe!

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EarlyBird

May-03-14 7:05 AM

Our state basically removed the regulations on flare gas. A couple years ago there were some small companies starting up that were installing electric generators on the well sites to turn the gas in electricity. Then the state deregulated flare gas and those business went along the wayside.

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EarlyBird

May-03-14 7:01 AM

It is pollution until somebody makes good use of it. The government (EPA) should stop whining about coal mines and diesel pollution until they sweep their own steps.

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EarlyBird

May-03-14 6:59 AM

Baffled, they just lower the temperature to cause it to go from gas to liquid.

Legend, you are wrong they are drilling fed land like crazy right now in ND.

All the carbon that is going into the atmosphere is worse than the days of smog. Why is it OK to pollute the atmosphere with this gas but not other gas?

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Legend

May-02-14 11:02 PM

Flaring is prohibited in texas. R U suggesting the n. gas infrastructure in place now is not profitable? We capture much of the bakken gas now--why not all like texas?

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Baffledbyliberals

May-02-14 8:23 PM

I was looking into inventing a collection system to be installed on every location to collect nat. gas, however, as I looked into various compressors I was informed that I would need to pressure the flare gas to 3600PSI(250bar) which would cost around $150,000 just for the compressor! A team of chemical engineers has come up with an enzyme that converts gas to liquid, I talked with the head scientist and he said they're years away from a commercial product. Ideally we can get it, but at what cost until pipelines can be installed? The cost of each compressor is the problem, you know if there was money to be made easy out there the big oil would get it!! Your new nickname is MCFLY!!

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Baffledbyliberals

May-02-14 8:11 PM

Yes legend in wyo all the locations I welded there are tied into little 2" pipes then on to a gathering facility, then cleaned, compressed, then sent down a bigger pipe......like I said before the infrastructure for that isn't here! We can't even get the ok for the keystone, let alone small pipe everywhere!!! Think mcfly, think! And do me a favor don't talk like you know anything about anything!! You only see one tiny portion of a possible solution, and changing every gas station to LNG is a monumental feat.....good plan genius, try not posting your shallow thoughts, you're embarrassing your kin!!

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Legend

May-02-14 6:05 PM

BBL: Most of the Bakken work is on private land--no need to tap the fed lands 4 nat. gas. The disgust with pipelines is the high incidence of leaks of oil. Nat. gas does not pollute like oil. The nat. gas we use comes from a pipe and it is cost effective. The only thing keeping oil from capturing nat. gas is that oil is more profitable. The problem is not availability--it is pipelines. Would the nat. gas in WY and CO not also be moved with pipes? Your rationale is the same we hear from oil and defies logic. Let the flaring, wasting and lies continue. The Fed. is right to limit drilling on public lands because oil has a long record of reckless oil handling and the Bakken is just more proof.

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EarlyBird

May-02-14 1:48 PM

And the Feds are going to update the whole Naval Reserve by Midwest WY which is an awesome natural gas field. They are going to use horizontal drilling practices to enhance the raping of nature.

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EarlyBird

May-02-14 1:45 PM

This is just stupid!!! Back in the 1970's when they simulated a gasoline shortage we all converted to propane for our crew vehicles. This is almost 40 years ago we did that, it's so nice to see the good ol government hasn't mandated natural gas cars be produced for use where there is fuel for them.

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Baffledbyliberals

May-02-14 12:27 PM

As far as flaring goes, until more pipelines (which I know you hate) are installed collection of the gas costs far more than they sell it for, so until the pipeline infrastructure is installed it's not going to happen!! Sure the government wants it collected, same "majority" hates pipelines.......hmmmm? Tell them to collect it, but not let them? Liberal logic!!

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Baffledbyliberals

May-02-14 12:16 PM

Oh legend......what a moron your parents created! The dems all but shut natural gas production down in places like Wyoming, Colorado, Utah, federal lands......oil&gas companies are one in the same! Let's now move on to natural gas as auto fuel, they've been using it for years, longer than I've been alive! If anybody is holding up production of any kind, it's the Democratic Party! You are half idiot half conspiracy theorist! If you want your Prius to run on natural gas, write Obama a letter stating: dear prez, I'm tired of plugging into electricity from a coal fired power plant, please resume drilling on all federal lands so I may then have an alternative fuel, thanks, one of your loyal sheep!!!

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Legend

May-02-14 8:23 AM

Nat. gas competes head on with oil as a motor vehicle fuel. It is lower cost. Thus the slogan "ND Oil Can" as opposed to ND Nat. Gas Can. Thus the endless flaring. Oil wants to make their money fast b4 another fuel like Nat. gas replaces oil. Our ND "civic leaders" r helping oil keep us in a higher priced fuel. ND Oil Can but ND nat. gas is coming and is lower cost.

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