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Biggest shell game in history

April 7, 2014

It is not really amazing what a combination of coercion and giveaways can accomplish in a yea....

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locomotive

Apr-11-14 10:45 AM

Is "my side" responsible for those low poll numbers, HAetc?

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locomotive

Apr-10-14 10:14 PM

Lots of kindness in that last post, billgrr.

Plus, what should we say about polls? If the wind changes, so do polls.

Convenient for you that there are some polls to cite that line up with your viewpoint. Are there any others that don't line up?

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locomotive

Apr-10-14 10:28 AM

So then, when the President declares that the insurance companies CAN still offer the "old plans" or "junk plans" or whatever one wishes to call them, those companies must be thinking, "Make up your mind!" or something like that.

Is it a law or isn't it a law? When Republicans first tried to repeal it, then libs cried, "It's the law of the land! You can't do that!" When Pres. Obama made his seemingly unilateral decisions to delay implementation of several specific deadlines in the law, then libs cried, "It's just the executive branch doing its thing! What's your problem?"

Either it's a law, duly enacted, passed, signed and executed, or it's just a wish list put into place whenever it suits Democrat political expediency.

Why would this be hard to understand?

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locomotive

Apr-10-14 10:21 AM

Even if it's still "corporate insurance pigs" as HAetc says, the insurance companies did comply with the (many, many, many) provisions of ACA. If they wanted to be in business, they had to. It's kind of a DUH.

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locomotive

Apr-10-14 10:20 AM

"Obama didn't kick anyone off their insurance. The corporate insurance pigs did that by not complying with the law."

OK, HAetc, let's try this again.

Before ACA: insurance companies set up what they were going to cover, at what price, within insurance regulation guidelines.

After ACA: insurance companies were mandated as to what they were to cover (many generals, less specifics in policies), and how they were to cover (pre-existing conditions). The ins companies HAD to change their offerings in order to comply with ACA, otherwise there's penalties for them that didn't exist before ACA's passage. (Laws usually dictate what's what, then prescribe a penalty for those who scoff. Witness the individual mandate: comply or be fined.) Now as to price: that hasn't been mandated, right? So Pres. Obama's promise to all that all would save $2500 (price) was untrue, because price hadn't been mandated.

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locomotive

Apr-08-14 11:38 AM

Shell game? Yes.

Truth and nothing but the truth? No.

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locomotive

Apr-08-14 11:35 AM

"Fox show host Chris Wallace advising Republicans not to blow their horn so loud until they have a viable Obamacare alternative."

What self-respecting Democrat/liberal listens to Faux News? Wasn't it libs that declared it to be UNbalanced?

What do MSNBC commentators have to say?

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locomotive

Apr-08-14 11:31 AM

"Personally, I don't like it because like I have said many times before it is a conservative-based law. It is anti-liberal, pro-corporate insurance. Nevertheless, it appears it is gradually getting better, so we shall see."

This is nothing more than fond wishes and hopes. How could something "conservative-based" ever be good in HAetc's eyes? Because Democrats passed it? Oh, now I see...

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locomotive

Apr-08-14 11:28 AM

"Obama didn't kick anyone off their insurance. The corporate insurance pigs did that by not complying with the law."

Uh, excuse me, HAetc, your quote needs just the slightest edit...

The corporate insurance pigs did that by complying with the law.

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centerfield

Apr-08-14 9:39 AM

Well, missy, I really did not get your point either. It is not news that you vote Republican and kept your health insurance. After all, you "could" keep your coverage especially after they took off the limits and added a few other things. So, your sister has cancer and is a Democrat. Did she keep her insurance? Did she have insurance? If she did not have insurance, she could get insurance under the ACA, right? Did she do that? So, back to the original question. What is your point?

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Missy1

Apr-07-14 9:17 PM

Oh Ha Ha, I never know what you are saying either. It is normally trash against another person. Speak loud and proud as you want. Keep speaking loud and proud trashing people. You and your boy's don't much matter in my voting practices.

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JustaMan

Apr-07-14 8:32 PM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA Apr-07-14 7:37 PM

"Tell all Democrats to be loud and proud and run on this for the election. Now will they or won't they? Might not be as popular as the lefty propagandists tell us it is..."

"Well, that cuts both ways."

Indeed it does! Fox show host Chris Wallace advising Republicans not to blow their horn so loud until they have a viable Obamacare alternative.

Not only is it almost impossible legislatively to appeal Obamacare, there's a steady decrease in the public's concern on the issue. What is seemingly trumping all the hype is to what length the GOP has undertaken to sabotage the new law. This is NOT viewed favorable among many voters and will play a factor in 2014 midterms.....

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Missy1

Apr-07-14 7:41 PM

It is a shell game. Legend, nice try. My insurance did not get cancelled. I vote Republican. My sister, Democrat, did not take or sign up for the wonderful ACA, (Obama care), she is in the middle of breast cancer treatments. Go figure.

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locomotive

Apr-07-14 4:35 PM

"The left has a winning number in the ACA..."

Tell all Democrats to be loud and proud and run on this for the election. Now will they or won't they? Might not be as popular as the lefty propagandists tell us it is...

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