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Can’t afford the new law

March 2, 2014

Craig Smith, Garrison As a North Dakota small business owner, I have a great deal of concern about the new Health Insurance Tax that was buried within the pages of the Affordable Care Act, institute......

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Mar-08-14 6:00 AM

gosh, just look at all the racists that are complaining about a 'little' increase in premiums...mine 'only' would be going up 300+%. and i would now get to help finance abortions ! what a country.

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Mar-07-14 9:23 PM

Someone should tell hannity u can work in a safer Minn. for less money because u won't pay $3,000 per mo. 4 rent. ND Oil can kill u, after it pollutes u.

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Mar-07-14 9:16 PM

B4 the ACA, a farmer said on talk radio he was quoted $25,000 per month for he and his wife, 4 health ins.

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Mar-07-14 9:11 PM

There is something worse than the ACA. That would b letting medical care, oil and big banks control our lives 1 iota more than they do now. The fixed price of gasoline and diesel says all they need 2 say. The high cost of medical care is all they need 2 say. I believe we rate 37th in the world for healthcare. The collapse of 2008 is all we need to know about the big banks.

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Mar-07-14 9:05 PM

MRC: i did not say that. My point is the Minn. case proves u can raise taxes to solve budget problems without crushing your economy. The current republican policy in the Fed is no new taxes because they say it will damage the economy.

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Mar-07-14 5:11 PM

@muleskinner I agree that there should be a more fair approach based on the earnings but it should also take into account the number of employees. For example, WhatsApp has 35 employees and a revenue of ~$254 million. Spending $725,000 per employee would be very rediculous.

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Mar-07-14 6:18 AM

It is the stupidest law ever passed by a legislative body organized by mankind.

If the law stated that all health care costs must be financed by income, a percentage of that income, then it might be a fair law.

The mandate should state that 10 percent of one's income must be used for health care costs. A lower limit would exclude anyone with less than 100,000 dollars in income. If your income is 100,001 dollars, your healt care mandated cost would be 10 cents.

If you make 50 million dollars per year, your health care mandated cost would be 5 million dollars.

About the only fair way to make it work, otherwise, it is doomed because it is one stupid law.

As it is, the law is just plain stupid.

Can't expect anything else from a Congress that is replete with idiots.

Stupid is as Stupid does.

Forrest Gump would agree.

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Mar-07-14 2:13 AM

Hmmmm isn't it peculiar that none of that would affect Mr. Smith's business? Google shows that he owns a liquor shop called Live Well with around 4 employees.

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Mar-05-14 11:20 AM


This site was full of calculations and for what is now considered deductible expenses concerning employee health insurance, etc.

At least others have read the bill to see what's in it...

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Mar-05-14 11:12 AM

More from obamacarefacts...

"The ObamaCare employer mandate/employer penalty, originally set to begin in 2014, will be delayed until 2015/2016.

"The ObamaCare "employer mandate" is a requirement that all businesses with over 50 full-time equivalent (FTE) employees provide health insurance for their full-time employees, or pay a per month "Employer Shared Responsibility Payment" on their federal tax return.

"Employer mandate update: Small businesses with 50-99 full-time equivalent employees will need to start insuring workers by 2016. Those with a 100 or more will need to start providing health benefits in 2015. Health care tax credits have been retroactively available to small businesses with 25 or less full-time equivalent employees since 2010."

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Mar-05-14 11:10 AM

obamacarefacts . com/obamacare-employer-mandate

"The annual employer mandate fee (officially called an Employer Shared Responsibility Payment) is a per employee fee for employers with over 50 full-time equivalent employees who don't offer health coverage to full-time employees.

"The employer mandate is based on full-time equivalent employees, not just full-time employees.

"The fee is based on whether or not you offer affordable health insurance to your employees that provides minimum value (explained below).

"The annual fee is $2,000 per employee if insurance isn't offered (the first 30 full-time employees are exempt)."

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Mar-05-14 10:08 AM

Six of one, half-dozen of another.

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Mar-05-14 10:08 AM

WA Times 2-5-14

President Obama’s health care law will push 7 million people out of their job-based insurance coverage — nearly twice the previous estimate, according to the latest estimates from the Congressional Budget Office released Tuesday.

CBO said that this year’s tax cuts have changed the incentives for businesses and made it less attractive to pay for insurance, meaning fewer will decide to do so. Instead, they’ll choose to pay a penalty to the government, totaling $13 billion in higher fees over the next decade.

But the non-partisan agency also expects fewer people to have to pay individual penalties to the IRS than it earlier projects, because of a better method for calculating incomes that found more people will be exempt.

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Mar-05-14 9:05 AM

Legand: how does raising taxes on people create jobs...besides in government? How does raising taxes lead to the creation of more goods and services that people actually want to buy?

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Mar-05-14 6:36 AM

15,000 spouses of UPS workers were dropped from health insurance coverage in August of 2013.

Google 1099 jobs and the Obamacare effect on those 1099 jobs.

It's not rocket science, people cannot afford Obamacare.

Thems the facts, Jack.

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Mar-05-14 12:05 AM

Great comments BG. It is noteworthy that koch's and roger ailes r concentrated on Obama (who is not running)and thereby ignoring their competition. That goldmark guy did the same thing in ND. i am not afraid to give them that tidbit because i don't think they read. They only exist from lies. Rand Paul said "misinformation works". They labeled Biden a babbling idiot even though he has never said anything as stupid as most of the t party every time they speak. Rick and sarah r better ads then the dems pay 4.

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Mar-04-14 11:40 PM

MR: Your comment would suggest the job loss after 2008 was a mere nuisance and deficits a passing fad. The success in Minn. is what economists dream of. Oh i forgot; the collapse was all on Obama. I have said 4 my entire life "i would sooner have a job and pay taxes than have no job".

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Mar-04-14 11:25 PM

Anybody know what "tax" or "fee" this letter writer is talking about? I heard of a one time surcharge on policies, but it ain't $500, more like $60.

Pass the cost on to the customer, we always pay anyhow.

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Mar-04-14 10:47 PM

You keep repeating the same old crepe but never do you produce a link to a credible source. You are just making things up aren't you?

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Mar-04-14 9:15 PM

Where are you getting this 6 MILLION people dropped? You yourself said 4.2 million had re signed up for Obamacare. You sound like a sprinkler stuck on stupid.

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Mar-04-14 2:54 PM

since Legend likes to discuss other states maybe he can explain the anomoly in WI. Oh, and MN started to make corrections with their financial disaster when they elected a republican controlled legislature. And they didn't raise taxes. In fact property taxes have dropped quite a bit there also.

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Mar-04-14 2:21 PM

Does anyone know that government healthcare, Medicare, DOES have pre-existing conditions attached to it? I thought government was forword-looking enough to have eliminated that clause...especially when Omamacare came along....

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Mar-04-14 12:04 PM

There seems to be nobody in Minnesota who thinks that these taxes were a good idea. Do a Google search on the matter. I dare you.

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Mar-04-14 11:57 AM

Legend: your "left wing economics" has done nothing but burdened real people and made them angry. How do you expect to keep "your" people in office when they keep intentionally doing things to anger the masses? You keep acting opposite your self interests!

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Mar-04-14 11:55 AM

"Check out Minnesota 4 proof of left wing economics. They have recovered all of their 2008 job loss. They did the opposite of what our national republican party says is the answer. They raised taxes and now have a great surplus"

Hey Legend, if you're going to post something about Minnesota, you'd better check your facts before posting it in a forum read by someone who actually lives there.

Did you know that, despite the much vaunted surplus, there's a very real chance that many of those taxes are going to be rolled back in the coming legislative session? You know why? They (meaning the state and those running it) might have gotten their short-term score, but they've also found a number of negative, unintended, and unanticipated (except for those outside of their echo chamber) problems with the taxes. Example: their business-to-business warehouse tax has encountered such widespread opposition that repleaing it is almost necessary if they (those running the state) want re

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