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Lack of voters concerning

December 15, 2013

Brandan Ressler, Minot When looking at the recent vote on the school bond I came to realize something....

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takkak

Dec-19-13 2:05 AM

Best thing about my voting NO on Dec 10th is... I get to do it again and again, period.

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EarlyBird

Dec-17-13 8:29 AM

I hope the people who are trying to squeeze blood out of a rock are embarrassed for even asking the residents of minot for 125 million dollars.. unbelievable!!!

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EarlyBird

Dec-17-13 8:27 AM

Quoted from MDN- "One-third of the city has been helped through the Salvation Army food pantry," she added. In addition to the food pantry, the Salvation Army also provides hot meals for people in need.

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disgusted

Dec-16-13 1:12 PM

katesbff, can you document for us the gang type activity, turf wars and vandalism in Bismarck r/t to their two public highs schools?

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Legend

Dec-16-13 1:09 PM

LS: Reading lessons 4 u. It is the state money wanted 4 schools; not fed money. This "progress" is costing every minot homeowner about $1k more in taxes and another $1k more in utilities and services.

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pslater

Dec-16-13 2:12 AM

The operative word in connection with city (government) and key business (leaders) IS corruption!

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Legend

Dec-15-13 8:48 PM

LS: it isn't that i don't want to cover kids--it is that we in minot have been taxed so hard for business sake that we r tapped out. Liberal does not mean spending fool. Search presidents and spending--it may not have been a contest but the right won.

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Neenhome

Dec-15-13 8:25 PM

I have another point to bring up. I am in total disagreement that the portables have no toilets. Please tell me what was put outside Longfellow for 2 years. They had toilets and running water in there. Why can the ones at Washington not have them? If water/sewer can be run from a home to a trailer for a yr and half or longer surely we can do that for our grade school children in these COLD days of winter. Shame on school admin for allowing that!

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Neenhome

Dec-15-13 8:21 PM

Can you please explain to me why we need new schools when every grade school and 2 middle schools all had a room that could be used for voting? And where I voted I was back in the school a week later for a Christmas program and that room was still empty as well as the one across the hall? I know i won't get any brownie points for this but please explain why we have portables when we have empty rooms in the schools?

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landslide2014

Dec-15-13 8:10 PM

Interesting Observation:

Legand and PatheticJustice14 Both self proclaimed Liberals who rely heavely on other peoples money aRE now on here saying they don't want to pay school taxes..

Whats up guys.. Is it becasue its FINALLY going to come out of your pocket instead of the Federal Governments pocket?

Your anxious for Obamacare to cover everyone.. so how come now you don't want to cover the kids?

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concerned

Dec-15-13 7:29 PM

Have you also thought about the kids who live couch to couch and go to school essentially homeless so no parents to vote for them. In addition, some kids live on their own as well. It's a small percentage, but it's an eyeopener for both populations. As for the voter turnout, it's never high no matter what is being voted upon especially City Council, which honestly maybe needs to be moved to regular election time and not June. Also, people are just fed up because the will of people except obviously North Minot isn't being listened to. And every time you try to cry foul to a higher office, nobody cares either.

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Katesbff

Dec-15-13 4:23 PM

The plan was flawed in the first place. Building a new school was not a bad idea, but splitting into two High Schools was a bad idea. This would result in rivalry outside of the sporting curriculum and subsequent gang style activity, up to and including vandalism and turf wars. So, build a new school, convert central to a middle school, but make the new school into old central thereby maintaining one High School with common goals. maybe even revert to k-6, 7-9, 10-12 structure. All avenues should be considered. In addition the timing was poor at best. Property owners and renters have suffered huge financial blows in the aftermath of the flood and the influx of Big Oil.

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chadk66

Dec-15-13 3:21 PM

one thing everybody seems to forget is that there are a huge amount of people living in minot that don't claim residence there or in ND for that matter. The census is a joke

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muleskinner

Dec-15-13 1:23 PM

The state is swimming in money and will be for some time to come.

Have to edit at times.

Anyway, I doubt Minot's homeowners have had increases in their incomes of some 10 times in the last 6 years.

When the revenues are increasing 10 fold, why are North Dakotans being taxed more?

It is not fair taxation, especially property tax.

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muleskinner

Dec-15-13 1:04 PM

In 2007, McKenzie County had oil production of approximately 550,000 barrels per month. In 2013, the oil production is more than 7 million barrels per month in Mackenzie County.

The amount the state is receiving in oil extraction tax is at least 10 times more than it was in 2007 from McKenzie County oil production.

The 2017 projection for oil production in Mackenzie County is graphed at 15 million barrels per month. The state will have an increased revenue of about 20 times the level of 2007 from Mackenzie County's oil. Life is good for the State of North Dakota.

It can only get better.

November 2007: 528,394 barrels per month produced in McKenzie County.

October 2013: 7,722,534 barrels per month produced in McKenzie County.

Looks like about 15 times increased production to me. The state is swimming in money and will be for some time come.

The State of North Dakota wins the Scrooge award this Christmas.

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Legend

Dec-15-13 12:57 PM

matman: the early voting came on our tv news when there were only 2 days left.

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Legend

Dec-15-13 12:53 PM

PJ 14--totally agree and may i add: there r many of us have seen too much expansion already and can't afford any more "progress". 4 those who dream of a big city--go 2 one and we will both b happy.

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redneck

Dec-15-13 11:17 AM

to me there was a vote and it was for better management, why is that so hard to understand.

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JustObserving

Dec-15-13 10:46 AM

Brandan, let me see if I have this right. You voted yes, you are a taxpayer, but only after a vote defeating an unsustainable increase in school taxes, you are only now asking the City of Minot where does your money go. It seems to me that should have been your first question prior to any vote on increased taxes.

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JustObserving

Dec-15-13 10:46 AM

Brandan, let me see if I have this right. You voted yes, you are a taxpayer, but only after a vote defeating an unsustainable increase in school taxes, you are only now asking the City of Minot where does your money go. It seems to me that should have been your first question prior to any vote on increased taxes.

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Legend

Dec-15-13 10:17 AM

NDB: u forgot 2 mention--Many teachers could vote at work 4 the first time!

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EarlyBird

Dec-15-13 10:10 AM

I suppose about 1000 of the votes were from 18 year old eligible senior and junior students. I wonder how they promoted this to those students? It's magic!!

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NoDakBoy

Dec-15-13 9:35 AM

"Pulling a fast one"---There were like 11 or 12 polling places instead of 4. It was one of the most publicized elections that I can remember. Now, if the MPS greased the palm of good ol' mother nature to get a cold, snowy day than the MPS did pull a fast one. I believe the last bond issue for the schools had a considerably less voter turnout than this one. The correct term is voter apathy. The correct term for many on this site is conspiracy theorists.

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Legend

Dec-15-13 9:23 AM

The answer to your question of "why don't u vote" is most often "because it does not matter--they will do as they please". Minot has a solid history of ignoring the public vote. The schools were caught up in this because they see MPS as separate from the . Voters see city and schools as 1 because 1 check pays 4 both. Add all the property tax relief we were promised--but not apparent in our tax bills because counties statewide ate up what the state sent down. Trust is earned not granted and the voters do not trust the city. We were sold a lemon on flood control and the city showed a sometimes despicable attitude toward flood victims. Rezoning is a threat and a reply to the "NO" vote. It does not have to happen.

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sloughdog

Dec-15-13 9:08 AM

What is concerning to me is, why are trying to shove these bond issues on the voters, when there is so much money in the state coffers? If they worked half as hard at tapping the school trust fund as they do at trying to*****more money from the taxpayer, they would surely have there new schools by now.

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