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Time to scrap Obamacare

December 15, 2013

Christopher James Stock, Minot Obamacare. This is something that needs to be completely scrapped and forgotten by the American people....

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landslide2014

Dec-15-13 8:44 AM

Let just scrap Obama.. Then the rest will take care of itself..

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Legend

Dec-15-13 9:02 AM

Where were u b 4 the policies were cancelled? Who knew? ins. co's. revise our plans at will and often. Why would any one expect they would cancel plans rather than revise those to meet the ACA standards? Where was the "cry foul" from the right". NO ONE KNEW because it was all up to the ins. companies. Even they may not have made the decision to revise or cancel. The only valid objection to Obamacare is it will take money from those in the business with the high prices and poor service. Your side wants the same 4 S.S., Med/Med, min wage, public Ed and teacher pay. The ACA was demanded by the public (then lied about by the right), ed by congress and is now law. YOU LOST and your canned letter is a LOSER. The Congressional Budget Office says we will save billions in 10 years and trillions after that as a result of the ACA. They do real research.

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disgusted

Dec-15-13 9:25 AM

Legend, your last sentence is a complete falsehood. The CBO does not research. They are given figures, complete or incomplete, and from the figures given to them, they provide us with the outcome. They do NO research nor do they check to see if they numbers given them are correct. But, a government run and controlled health care is what you want, and boy are you in for a surprise.

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Legend

Dec-15-13 10:14 AM

Instead of innuendo, tell me the surprise. We have had years of innuendo from the right. Go on the record--i did.

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landslide2014

Dec-15-13 10:57 AM

Legand how the*****do you knoiw what was in my insurance poilicy?

What might be bad for you liberal Know it alls Might have been just what the rest of us liked..

I am so sick of people like YOU and Obabable Hussain know what it is that is good for me..

The only people that need Obamas handouts are you welfare people.. The rest of us are VERY content minding our own business and taking care of ourselves..

Its just plain ASININE for you to think you know whats good insurance for me..

The Government has no right to DEMAND that people buy their insurance..

Obamacare needs to fail and fail big.. Obamas way of using chemical weapons on the responsible people in America.. He needs to be charged with criminal fraud against the America public..

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landslide2014

Dec-15-13 10:59 AM

The only valid objection to Obamacare is it will take money from those in the business with the high prices and poor service.

Really Legand.. Tell that to the Democrat Kristen Powers .. Her rates doubled.. She supported Obamacare.. Is she happy NOPE!! I suspect many Democrats will now turn to the Republican party in hopes of cleaning up the mess in isle 13 caused by the Democrats..

Landslide 2014 is going to be the answer to the American peoples needs..

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landslide2014

Dec-15-13 11:04 AM

Doug Elmendorf, director of the Congressional Budget Office, said in a presentation at the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School on Wednesday that the Affordable Care Act—AKA Obamacare--will push a net of seven million people out of employer-based health-insurance plans.

Happy 2014.. As we watch the demise of the Obamacare Democrats get their pink slips.. As they leave the Senate and the house..

What goes around comes around..

And how many companies with Unions will see strikes in the next 3 years over healthcare.. That should be real good for industry right?

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Legend

Dec-15-13 12:31 PM

The article refers to the hospital not getting paid. The ACA is an attempt to fix that. Medical costs have been out of control 4 many years now. I strongly disagree that doing nothing will fix that. Employers were dropping health coverage long b4 the ACA--because of the high cost. The cost of healthcare and the price of gas and diesel have been two major business concerns--long b4 the ACA. Similar lies were told about S.S. and Med./Med. If u call it socialism then all insurance is also socialism. The difference with the Fed. doing it is there is no greedy profit motive involved.

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Legend

Dec-15-13 12:38 PM

In the 70's it was common to get good employer health coverage--even in retail and the fast food industry.

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Legend

Dec-15-13 12:47 PM

This congress may be the least agreeable in history but they passed the ACA. Even John Boehner has had it with t party squawk.

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chadk66

Dec-15-13 3:25 PM

Obumblescare is going to go down as the most divisive thing that has ever happened to the people of this nation. But I think that was one of the designs of it.

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chadk66

Dec-15-13 3:25 PM

Obumblescare is going to go down as the most divisive thing that has ever happened to the people of this nation. But I think that was one of the designs of it.

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landslide2014

Dec-15-13 4:58 PM

So can any liberal or conservative here in the blogs show me where Obamacare dropped the costs at the hospitals around the nation?

Natta Zero Zip.. Hospitals were never brought into compliance.. Just insurance companies.. were froced into the new law.. Hospitals can charge whatever they want..

Obamacare created a new crisis in America by UN insuring 6 million people and throwing them to the wolves..

Some program.. Ya think those 6 million IF they get the new and improved policies are REALLY going to fix the hospital ER problem??

Not on your life.. That problem is here to stay..

Obamacare I think will fizzle like a fire cracker on the 4th of July in a rainstorm..

Next year at this time all big business will have cut hourlys back to under 30 hours and dropped all the health insurance they were supplying. So look for another 12 MILLION to be dumped.. Ocotber 1st 2014.. Just before the November Congressional elections..

OH HAPPY DAY!!!!!!!!!!!

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Legend

Dec-15-13 5:29 PM

***e: Hospital costs r another problem. The industry will not fix the problem--many will complain about the high costs and the Fed will react. The same scenario resulted in the ACA. Medicare limits payments to hospitals 4 medicare patients now.

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angeR69

Dec-15-13 8:12 PM

I propose a new PR ad campaign for Obamacare.

Obamacare: Embrace the Suck!

We'll slap that slogan on buses and billboards across the fruited plain.

Special thanks to Nancy Pelosi and the men and women of our armed forces.

What do you think Jack, is this something we could all get behind?

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angeR69

Dec-15-13 8:28 PM

"Just insurance companies.. were froced into the new law.. Hospitals can charge whatever they want.. "

The hospitals can charge whatever they like. But the insurance companies will only pay out what the regulators allow them to pay out per procedure, patient and period. The hospitals will be forced to eat the difference, but in the end the costs will be passed on to us.

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Legend

Dec-15-13 8:37 PM

"The huge downfall" was medical bills were the leading cause of personal bankruptcy. We the public pay 4 that 2. The letter in part defies logic. The same naysayer crowd said our world would come 2 an end if Obama was president. History will show the biggest threat to our way of life during the Obama presidency, was the t party. The right protects the wealthy and they want no changes because they have had their way for so long their accounts are spilling over. "Takers" usually have something they took--and they do. Now they spend billions to convince voters changes like raising the minimum wage would be devastating. They have the U.S. Chamber of Commerce to protect them but they spend much to prevent U.S. workers from having someone to protect wages. The money of the wealthy and the wagearner came from the same consumers. It is not Obama but the huge difference between the haves and have nots that threatens our way of life.

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angeR69

Dec-15-13 10:07 PM

"It is not Obama but the huge difference between the haves and have nots that threatens our way of life."

How?

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Elephant

Dec-15-13 11:09 PM

Obamacare does not force hospitals to treat patience that cannot afford to pay. It is my understanding that this law was in affect for many year before this law. Actually I do believe that that law was signed by Reagan. So, if you want to totally scrap Obamacare you want to go back to people going to the hospital, receiving services, and then not paying anything.

And if insurance companies had not changed the plans, then people could have stayed on those plans. Seems to me the insurance companies are playing with the system and blaming Obamacare.

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Legend

Dec-15-13 11:10 PM

A69: Listen to the t party and consider who would benefit from most of their policies. We pay 4 Social Security and it is in the black until 2033--easily fixed after that. They call it an entitlement as a dirty word and many of them want it gone. Many elderly have S.S. as their sole source of income. They who shouted "death panels" from the ACA would let S.S. recipients starve if it came to that. Their position on the budget is no cuts in defense spending--because our U.S. military protects their overseas business investments. But military pay does not matter to them--they just negotiated to cut cost of living adjustments to mil. retirement pay until age 62. They want all control of the government. Pharma has 5 lobbiests for each member of congress. There is much more and the end result is fascism. Oil, big banks and medical nearly run the country today. The measure of a civil society is how they treat the workers and the "least of their people". Why did we come he

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Legend

Dec-15-13 11:19 PM

Look back to where our forefathers came from and why they left. They were not getting fair treatment.

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rajiihammr

Dec-16-13 12:44 AM

"The emergency room loophole is closed."... PJ14

There is no such thing as the "emergency room loophole", the law says you must be treated, but you are still responsible for paying for the treatment. It's just that anyone who relies on the emergency room for their healthcare and who doesn't pay for health insurance is likely to be someone who will skate on a hospital bill. That's how they live and that's what they do. Republicons encourage this sort of behavior... now. Before Obama Republicons had a more responsible attitude, in fact they had a name for it...personal responsibility.

About this letter..****plete nonsense.

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angeR69

Dec-16-13 2:05 AM

"Listen to the t party and consider who would benefit from most of their policies."

First off, the "TeaParty" isn't a single entity or organization. It's a grass-roots movement of people from all walks of life.

"We pay 4 Social Security and it is in the black until 2033--easily fixed after that."

In the black? Based on what? The trust has been drained and replaced with IOUs in the form of worthless treasury bonds. Easily fixed? How? By printing more money? Raiding private 401k accounts (this has already been proposed)?

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angeR69

Dec-16-13 2:07 AM

"They call it an entitlement as a dirty word and many of them want it gone. Many elderly have S.S. as their sole source of income. They who shouted "death panels" from the ACA would let S.S. recipients starve if it came to that. "

It is an entitlement. It is a guarantee of access to something based on established rights or by legislation. It is the very definition of an entitlement. Absolutely no one is proposing to pull the rug out from under those that rely on Social Security today as their only source of income. However, over time, it has to be restructured so that benefit outlays more closely match revenue inlays specific to the trust.

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angeR69

Dec-16-13 2:08 AM

This means benefits will need to be phased out gradually over time. And yes the whole system will need to be scrapped as people become less reliant on the government for their retirement, more accustomed to securing their own future. What is the alternative? Let the unfunded liabilities pile up, and when it all comes crashing down, it will be your kids and grand kids starving when there are no funds to pay out to Social Security recipients.

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