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Time to scrap Obamacare

December 15, 2013

Christopher James Stock, Minot Obamacare. This is something that needs to be completely scrapped and forgotten by the American people....

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ndvetrn

Dec-22-13 11:33 PM

markhighwater/willygarr/canook,

I'm still waiting for math class.

If the following is true, I was ten when you started your tour in Vietnam. Do you honestly expect any of us to believe you talk like this, a person of your age and hopefully wisdom. If I was ten then you would have to be almost 80 now. It's hard to deceive for that long.

Started tour on May 15, 1968 at Bien Hoa Province, South Vietnam..My rank is Captain, Us Army. My MOS {training} is 4800D Maintenance Officer for Ordnance and Civil Affairs...Units served; A Co. Army Depot Long Binh Army S>P>T>, CMD Saigon, 1st LOG CMD, USARV... Medals: Purple Heart

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Legend

Dec-22-13 10:42 PM

LS: The lies about the ACA from the right were endless and innuendo about pending doom even more prevalent. He did not start it but he fought fire with fire and WON by the way. B sure the 2014 landslide does not fall on u.

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Legend

Dec-22-13 10:34 PM

the t party and bengazi news r the job killers of this era. how about that paul ryan and his position to eliminate cost of living raises to military retirees until age 62? He is scrooge this christmas and every christmas until he fades like stuff in the vortex of draining dishwater.

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Legend

Dec-22-13 10:25 PM

Time 2 scrap oil 4 an energy source that is not so destructive. Technology where r u?

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Legend

Dec-18-13 5:05 PM

loco: in response to someone who suggested there was no future in wind power, i referenced one island where it is very successful. A mini wind tower system was installed on the new house on "building alaska" and it ran all of the lights in the house. u made up the "b all" words. Any news on ted nugent? All commenters should read the front page article in todays MDN. "income gap is holding back economy" says a majority of more than 3 dozen economists.

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locomotive

Dec-18-13 9:58 AM

Legend, if wind power works for Alaskans in Alaska, and if somebody or some company wishes to fund wind turbines without tax subsidies, then have at it, good luck and don't let the turbine hit your eagle on its way up.

But to imply that wind power is the be-all and end-all for any locale is unproven wishful thinking.

Your last comment proves that you haven't won the argument yet, just that you've been frustrated by info, posted by more than one, that refutes your own.

Oh well...on to round three.

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Legend

Dec-17-13 11:07 PM

Somebody commented not long ago that WINDPOWER was lame or not good or whatever. Just watched "building alaska". They said Kodiak (a very large island) is some 80% windpower now and soon will be 100%. Would u care to fess up and then stop believing lies about alternative energy. Ted Nugent said he would be in jail or dead if Obama was reelected. Still waiting to see if i send flowers or soap on a rope. The ACA some say will b the end of the world--the same people who spread doom and gloom for over 5 years now. I say shut up if it is made up.

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Legend

Dec-17-13 11:07 PM

Somebody commented not long ago that WINDPOWER was lame or not good or whatever. Just watched "building alaska". They said Kodiak (a very large island) is some 80% windpower now and soon will be 100%. Would u care to fess up and then stop believing lies about alternative energy. Ted Nugent said he would be in jail or dead if Obama was reelected. Still waiting to see if i send flowers or soap on a rope. The ACA some say will b the end of the world--the same people who spread doom and gloom for over 5 years now. I say shut up if it is made up.

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locomotive

Dec-17-13 4:10 PM

US News & World Report 10-30-13

"Which Top Hospitals Take Your Health Insurance Under Obamacare?"

"Americans who sign up for Obamacare will be getting a big surprise if they expect to access premium health care that may have been previously covered under their personal policies. Most of the top hospitals will accept insurance from just one or two companies operating under Obamacare..."

(Article includes table of top 18 hospitals and what insurance they accept)

"#3 Mayo Clinic, Rochester, Minn. (accepts) Blue Cross (silver plan only)"

Get your ducks in order, people. Times they are a-changing.

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locomotive

Dec-17-13 3:58 PM

"(Dr. Noseworthy) said that updating reimbursement methods to reflect better outcomes will lower health-care costs. "Right now, we're in a system where we're reimbursing volume of care not quality and outcomes of care—safety, efficiency and so on. And that's where most of the costs are.""

This, from a doctor with a 30-year perspective in the trenches...

Will Mayo continue to be affordable? Will the Mayo doctors be able to be of service to their previous and present patients, or will the culling begin in the near future? Will the Mayo doctors figure "enough is enough" and retire to pursue careers where their excellence is rewarded?

Stay tuned, folks

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locomotive

Dec-17-13 3:50 PM

"The Mayo clinic is often referenced for low cost and great care--many locals go there."

From CNBC 11-1-13

"Obamacare does nothing to link doctors' fees to their performance and reduce health-care costs, the head of the Mayo Clinic told CNBC on Friday.

"The Affordable Care Act is basically insurance reform—eligibility and access—and basically, they are going to pay for that by reducing the reimbursement. It doesn't modernize how we drive to higher quality care," Dr. John Noseworthy said in a "Squawk Box" interview...."

cont...

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Legend

Dec-17-13 1:46 PM

Loco: About 2 years ago the PPO between Trinity and Mail handlers dropped out. Mail Handlers is 1 of the most competitive insurers on the Fed market. There is a reason so many locals go elsewhere 4 medical needs. The Mayo clinic is often referenced for low cost and great care--many locals go there. The proof of savings is not absolute but medical costs history shows immediate action is needed. Many continue to work instead of retiring because of medical costs alone. They hold jobs that should go to younger workers and thereby add 2 our unemployment.

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locomotive

Dec-17-13 12:33 PM

Sounds like pipe dreams, Legend, as there's no proof yet as to what you're proposing ACA will do for pricing.

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locomotive

Dec-17-13 12:26 PM

"The truth is, Republicans are Sadists. They deliberately WANT this to fail because they WANT people to suffer and die and they WANT misery for as many people as possible."

Since you don't like tea, NT4M, just what is in your coffee cup?

What miserable planet do you live on? Give that libbie bully pulpit of yours a rest now and then, and join the real world, outside of your bitter slogans and diatribes.

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locomotive

Dec-17-13 12:22 PM

willgrr, if you were interested in being honest, you'd characterize your own self as being one of President Obama's boot lickers, as you seem to defend each and every thing he has done or said. Do we need to c/p?

Blame everyone else for any perceived "sin" and never mind your own. Follow the leader.

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Legend

Dec-17-13 11:12 AM

Insurance companies could have modified their "junk" plans to comply with the ACA. They modify most plans most every year but not now. Why? They raise prices at will. Why did they cancel the junk plans instead of raising coverage and price? When u see an exchange listing--the high prices stick out like a sore thumb and no one likes a sore thumb. The high priced plans won't sell. Savings. U can pay $3,000 or $30,000 for the exact same appendectomy at different hospitals. When insurers r forced 2 b competitive--they won't do PPO's with high priced hospitals and market forces should rid us of the unreasonable high prices.

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disgusted

Dec-16-13 9:30 PM

I can guarantee that most hospital beds are NOT filled with obese patients. They are filled with normal weight patients.

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Legend

Dec-16-13 6:31 PM

The Pres. made a promise he could not guarantee. The insurance companies made a liar of him by cancelling policies. He pulled a Teddy Roosevelt on them and they r mad. Their shifty business exposed and crushed.

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Legend

Dec-16-13 6:26 PM

Loco? 69: Agree that the cost of S.S. must go up in the future to sustain it--just like all other ins. Another possibility is to limit payments to those who need it--like most all insurance; u don't collect if the need does not arise. It is not in eminent financial danger--why do some want it gone and suggest it will help fix our debt? It is needed--when the bain types fold a business; it is often the only retirement remaining. Why would anyone want that gone?

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locomotive

Dec-16-13 4:54 PM

Mandatory auto insurance can't be called an "entitlement" in any way.

To its proponents, mandatory auto insurance protects another driver in an accident with you, when you can't afford to pay for his damages when it was your fault (your liability).

When it comes to healthcare, there is no liability possible toward other patients. It's my own health and nobody else's. Why am I now FORCED to buy health insurance? Because the gov't passed legislation saying I must, which was determined to be a new TAX (SCOTUS) after Pres. Obama assured us that it wasn't a new TAX.

As you like it...tax or entitlement or mandate...it's Obamacare, the popular piece of legislation that it is.

Obamacare should be like a pie crust promise: easily made, easily broken (repealed).

The promises that the President told us about Obamacare are also like pie crusts: easily made, easily broken, then redone into "misspeak."

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Legend

Dec-16-13 3:50 PM

LS: Exactly. Prices go up at will--and wages have not followed. Any wonder wealth is concentrated at the top. It takes workers to make our world move--they should b rewarded accordingly. 69: Your description of "entitlement" includes mandatory auto ins.--Never heard the t party call it that or demand it be abolished.

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locomotive

Dec-16-13 3:29 PM

Excellent thinking posts, angeR, as usual.

Great in-your-face posts, landslide, as usual.

Sorry, but Legend's posts are mostly leftist hyperbole, as usual.

So nice y'all are predictable.

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JackAaah

Dec-16-13 2:58 PM

....I'm speechless

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JackAaah

Dec-16-13 2:57 PM

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Legend

Dec-16-13 12:47 PM

George washington realized after the Rev. war that taxes were needed to support a Gov. and the military--but no royalty and no war-mongering. Later when business greed became too much--Theo. Roosevelt brought them in check to maintain our ideals. He saw the need to protect labor and control business 4 those ideals.

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