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Still defending Obamacare

December 6, 2013

Half-truths as well as outright lies have become all President Barack Obama has to defend his Obamacare health insurance takeover....

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ProgressiveLiberal

Dec-06-13 2:22 AM

The real lie is that the Republicans have any idea how to fix the spiraling out of control health care costs. Unless maybe their solution is to hurry up and die.

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tarkin

Dec-06-13 2:32 AM

I respect the mdn but, see a lot of similarities in the way the President got his way, to the way mdn is in support of giving me a tax increase?

There ARE different ways to get everyone insured so the people aren't stuck with the bill of the uninsured, just like there are ways to get a school built without singling out property owners to pay for a community property 90 some percent will never use.

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tarkin

Dec-06-13 2:32 AM

I respect the mdn but, see a lot of similarities in the way the President got his way, to the way mdn is in support of giving me a tax increase?

There ARE different ways to get everyone insured so the people aren't stuck with the bill of the uninsured, just like there are ways to get a school built without singling out property owners to pay for a community property 90 some percent will never use.

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chadk66

Dec-06-13 4:53 AM

the liberals answer to everything is "throw money at it"

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muleskinner

Dec-06-13 6:34 AM

Obamacare is a form of genocide.

It is being boycotted and the reason is the cost and for that reason, it looks more like a scam than anything else. Nobody is buying into the scam, and it is a scam.

Epic fail for Obamacare.

Affordable Care Act is a joke. The numbers do the talking, nobody wants the thing.

The Minot Daily is being hypocritical here.

On one hand, Obamacare is wrong and bad, an expensive boondoggle, on the other hand, taxing homeowners is ok to fork over 125 million dollars to the school district.

It's a 'let them eat cake' attitude towards Minot's homeowners so the school system can have its cake and eat it too.

I can't trust the school system with 125 million dollars, to be very frank about the matter.

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bushandcheneylied

Dec-06-13 8:21 AM

The republican answer to everthing is There has never been a War we didn't like.About time to start another.ACA is working so go work on something else like.JOBS BILL,FARM BILL,AND IMMAGRATION REFORM ACT.

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Missy1

Dec-06-13 8:33 AM

I would like to know who Obama care is working for. The little 6 year old diagnosed with cancer and her parents insurance was cancelled. Her next treatment is coming up and she has no insurance. But that's right, a lot of people have to be thrown off their insurance to cover less people than the people who got cancellations.

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Missy1

Dec-06-13 8:36 AM

And anyone that puts their personal information on this website, deserve to get it hacked.

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Missy1

Dec-06-13 9:27 AM

Veritas, have You signed up on this website, yet?

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Legend

Dec-06-13 9:44 AM

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Legend

Dec-06-13 9:47 AM

We trust the ACA because it is an attempt to fix a serious problem. We have lost any trust for right who oppose the aca because they do not represent us. If he lied--no one died. many died unnecessarily in iraq. That is why.

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centerfield

Dec-06-13 9:50 AM

The Republican plan for improving the health care program- NONE. Bills currently held hostage by Boehnor/Republicans- jobs bill, budget bill, immigration bill, farm bill, and other smaller bills on equal pay and others. But, money buys advertising, and it buys views of those who drink the kool aide. Approaching one BILLION dollars in advertising against Obamacare. The lack of facts follows missy/mudslide in every post.

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rajiihammr

Dec-06-13 9:57 AM

WillGarr quotes the labor department statistics and gets 2 disagree votes. Are they disagreeing with the stats or the good news? Or just disagreeing to be disagreeable.

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locomotive

Dec-06-13 10:05 AM

"...that WE all end up paying for in premiums & health care costs..."

These words remind me of an oft-stated premise: those who aren't insured are "carried" by those who are. That premise is bologna.

Those who pay up front for their medical costs DO NOT cost any money for those who are insured. In fact, they save the medical offices, clinics, hospitals, doctors a degree of money, because there is no filing, collecting, wrangling with gov't or ins co, etc. It's all handled up front.

Now the personal bankruptcy thingy? Perhaps medical businesses do pass their losses on to their health care consumers.

But Veritas should be willing to tell us how ANY personal bankruptcy losses are absorbed by the businesses affected: real estate, credit cards, taxing authorities, student loans, etc., not just medical agencies.

For the sake of defending Obamacare, the focus on personal bankruptcies due to medical expenses is a good fit and will do nicely, thanks.

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locomotive

Dec-06-13 10:07 AM

rajj, there's some scuttlebutt out there that the unemployment numbers were cooked before the election. If that's true, should that also matter to a disgruntled public?

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locomotive

Dec-06-13 10:07 AM

"The Republican plan for improving the health care program- NONE."

Bloviating...

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locomotive

Dec-06-13 10:09 AM

Media negativity? Like the reporting of recent polls? That negativity?

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locomotive

Dec-06-13 10:12 AM

According to Veritas, there are certain Republicans/conservatives/tea party people who are "rooting for failure."

I have the flip side...

Certain Democrats/liberals/progressives are always "rooting for demise" of any opposition.

Kwitchermoanin' about the polls...it's not our fault.

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Missy1

Dec-06-13 10:15 AM

Since Veritas won't answer my question, Centerfield have you signed up for Obamacare and gave them your payment? By the way, my facts come from my Insurance company. I have my insurance, so no I have not and will not sign up.

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muleskinner

Dec-06-13 10:18 AM

If the school board would stop airing the commercials depicting the school system in a downward spiral and sinking fast, it would be a relief. It's very depressing. Does the school board want to have a depressed, somber group of yes voters voting on Tuesday, full of sympathy for the school district. It's laughable.

Last I looked, the schools appear to be a good shape and MCC is a great school to attend.

The funeral march music is especially disturbing.

I'm am going to vote no simply because the aired commercials are so Gothic; the campaign to pass the bond issue is very dark indeed. 'If I am not compelled to sacrifice something so the school district can survive, I should feel guilty' type of campaign.

Give me a break.

What a mess. A 'no' vote is what must be cast.

I hate the commercials, they are bad.

The school board can learn a lesson the hard way. The school of hard knocks is always teaching somebody a thing or two about a thing or two.

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muleskinner

Dec-06-13 10:23 AM

Willy forgot to include the 48 million on foodstamps.

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polidork

Dec-06-13 10:38 AM

You right wingers cry about cancelled policies, but didn't care when insurance companies dropped sick patients. Where's the outrage over your inability to buy lead paint anymore? Or having to pay for seat belts and air bags in every car? And to complain about the ACA not working properly after spending 3 years trying to destroy it? Try making anything successful when someone else is simultaneously trying to tear it down and let us know how it works out. Btw, after years of being denied insurance, I'll soon be covered by a great policy thanks to the ACA

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polidork

Dec-06-13 10:52 AM

wow landslide, you really have a twisted concept of others. Since you're so curios I'll fill you in: I have a preexisting condition so I was denied coverage even thought I can afford it. I didn't frequent the ER because I can also afford to pay out of pocket. So consider this fact: hard working individuals in this country who are financially secure but uninsurable because insurance companies could legally discriminate could lose everything they had worked for and saved by being in one accident or having one emergency. That's OK with you?

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centerfield

Dec-06-13 10:54 AM

Well, loco, WHAT is the REpublican health care plan? Now you can bloviate.

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Missy1

Dec-06-13 11:13 AM

You didn't have any insurance before and you haven't signed up. But yet you want everyone else to. and then continue to lie about the ciggy thing. Just like all the little Liberals, change the subject.

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