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Federal spending negotiations

November 30, 2013

Among the many upsetting aspects of federal spending negotiations going on in Washington is a comparison of budget cuts in dispute to those agreed upon with little controversy. U.S. Sen....

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locomotive

Dec-04-13 6:21 PM

"Now, that is not hard to fact check your stuff because it is all cut/paste quotes or opinions you have gathered from your right wing sources."

centerish, I've been careful NOT to use right-wing sources exclusively, because of this very thing you accuse me of.

Are you just bloviating about checking things out?

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centerfield

Dec-04-13 11:17 AM

Well, since you provide few if any facts in your opinion blog, loco, it would be hard for you to post your sources. Most of the facts that I post can easily be looked up by just putting a notation on Google and away you go. Whenever you post some of your so-called facts, I just go check it out. Now, that is not hard to fact check your stuff because it is all cut/paste quotes or opinions you have gathered from your right wing sources. I would suggest that you begin to be critical of your sources and check them out first. At least you would not make false accusations that our information is not factual when you find how skewed your sources are. Let's just take one example- type in the words "Republican filibuster abuse" and guess what? Tons of articles to back up the my comments about the excessive use of filibusters by Republicans. See, loco, it is easy. I do it and you can too, Just try!!!

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locomotive

Dec-04-13 9:55 AM

"Lots of blog room, show us your stuff if you have any."

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locomotive

Dec-04-13 9:54 AM

"I could go on and on..."

Yeah, we know, centerish. What would make your rhetoric less inflammatory and more factual is the posting of specifics, like you're demanding of the other side, but not of yourself.

Give it a try. Others have done it.

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centerfield

Dec-04-13 9:13 AM

Now, as to presiding over the deficits, Obama has indeed been President during this time. But, we also have a Republican Senate that has blocked a record number of Democratically sponsored bills (350-400) (more in the first four years than the total in our history) and then we come the Republican House which has done nothing. In fact, Boehnor refuses to let any bills come up for debate or vote after they have passed the Senate. That incudes the farm bill, the immigration bill, a jobs bill, a budget bill, and many other different bills on a number of critical items for running our government and stimulating the economy. Last of all, let us not forget the government shutdown at a cost of 24 billion dollars and many more jobs, or the threaten default of the government, all from the right wing of the Republican party. So, let talk about who is working for us and who is "obstructing".

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centerfield

Dec-04-13 9:04 AM

I figured that the stimulus bills would be your first choice. Well, there were a number of them passed with the first one for 600 Billion dollars coming in November of the Bush administration and the remainder coming under Obama. Now, as we review the bills, we find that they contained some conditions and required a payback of the money to the government. When you look it up, you will find a lot of different figures but the one thing that is consistent with the sites is that the majority of the stimulus packages have been paid back including a profit on some of the Bank loans due to the interest paid. I could go on and on, but the information is out there for you to find. So, no, the stimulus package under Obama did not contribute much to the deficit problem. Wrong again.

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ndvetrn

Dec-04-13 1:24 AM

(CNSNews****) - President Barack Obama has now presided over five of the six largest annual budget deficits the U.S. government has ever run, according to data released yesterday by the U.S. Treasury. -

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ndvetrn

Dec-04-13 1:16 AM

Let's start with the stimulus bill passed by the President and his google of trolls. The next thing is obamacare but the financial impact hasn't hits most yet. This President is a democratic dream. Keep dreaming.

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centerfield

Dec-04-13 1:10 AM

Chad, you were so right about my age, who are you really, Karnak? Oh, I do remember when Kennedy was killed...Yep, I was in high school.

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centerfield

Dec-04-13 1:07 AM

Is there a possibility that you two mental giants (vet/mudslide) could give us some background on the expensive bills that have been passed by the Obama Administration that would cause this excessive spending??? Make your list. Back up you fox news talking points. Where did the spending escalate. Did we have new spending bills or are we still working under the yoke of economic terror passed during the last REpublican administration. Lots of blog room, show us your stuff if you have any. Otherwise, more garbage from the winger pack.

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chadk66

Dec-03-13 11:53 PM

and of course I was right about what age bracket your in.

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chadk66

Dec-03-13 11:51 PM

Centerfield, yes I have health insurance. It is BCBS like 90% of all North Dakotans. And we pay for it, it is not free. Medicare and Social Security you pay for. The cost has been taken out of both of our paychecks for thirty plus years. Would I rather have been able to invest my money in something besides social security? Of course I would have. But unfortunately that's not an option. And I'm guessing your smart enough to understand the difference between government ran health care and health insurance purchased from a third party company. Of course the whole country is aware of the difference at this point. At least anybody that hasn't been in a coma for the past few months. Not sure why you would assume I will receive a state pension. Def. not. My wife has worked for the feds for eight years. She is wanting to leave because she can't stomach it anymore. When you witness first hand from the inside the stupidity and total lack of common sense of the fed. you get sick.

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ndvetrn

Dec-03-13 11:39 PM

Wait a minute,

I want a deal where I can spend much more than I earn. Who wouldn't want a deal like that and obviously don't have to pay it back. Least that's what some want to believe. My credit only affords me to borrow what I afford to pay back. If I don't meet my obligations they take stuff. What are you willing to give up.

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ndvetrn

Dec-03-13 11:19 PM

Until Barack Obama took office in 2009, the United States had never spent more than 23.5% of GDP, with the exception of the World War II years of 1942-1946. Here’s the Obama spending record:

– 25.2% of GDP in 2009

– 24.1% of GDP in 2010

– 24.1% of GDP in 2011

– 24.3% (estimates by the White House ) in 2012

What’s more, if Obama wins another term, spending—according to his own budget—would never drop below 22.3% of GDP. If that forecast is right, spending during Obama’s eight years in office would average 23.6% of GDP. That’s higher than any single previous non-war year.

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centerfield

Dec-03-13 10:09 PM

Actually, the government has worked for many years. It has worked like machinery with grease on the gears. sometimes in the warmth it ran well and the gears moved somewhat easily, but other times it was like grease at cold temperatures; barely turning and hard to maneuver. This congress is totally froze and makes wild and crazy comments and deeds. Such as shutting down the government and defaulting on the debt. The tea party is nuts and has no idea how government of any form works.

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centerfield

Dec-03-13 9:49 PM

I find you post most interesting, chad, especially you spouse working for the government. So, you currently have health insurance through the government but are against government health care? That is odd. Now, you will move on to medicare, social security, and a government pension as well. Now, that is just the wife, now we throw in your medicare and social security and possibly some type of state pension and yet your are on the far right? Interesting.

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centerfield

Dec-03-13 9:44 PM

Loco, good post. Yep, it is on the net. Along with this crop of obstruction Republicans. There has been some things in the past from both sides including Democrats. But, never to the scale of this party's blockage. Over 400 filibusters, less than 60 or so bills passed by the house, 40 times to push the same bill that fails, so called the "worst congress" in history. There is no comparisons to previous congressional sessions. It is on the net, all of it. Look it all up, loco and broaden your horizons.

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tarkin

Dec-03-13 9:15 PM

The schools are on the hotline tonight, begging everyone they call to vote yes for higher taxes.

Seems awful funny how they think everyone, whether they can afford it or not, should pay for everyones kids, not just your own, its your job to pay for all kids, the rest of your life.

These poor kids cant learn without new walls around them, give me a break, whats that say to kids.

In other words, don't strive for better things kids, the government will take care of you, or should I say property owners.

Socialism is a dependency disease!

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chadk66

Dec-03-13 9:02 PM

anybody that thinks Pelosi and Boxer aren't hiding money offshore is a complete buffoon. And Romney, whom I'm absolutely no fan of, paid more in taxes than Obama made up until the election. And he has probably donated more money to charity than obama has made in his lifetime. They're all scum, both sides of the aisle.

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chadk66

Dec-03-13 9:00 PM

centerfield, the gov. hasn't worked as it's supposed to for quite a many of years. Probably since Kennedy. I'm guessing your not very old so you have no recollection of this.

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chadk66

Dec-03-13 8:59 PM

totally agree, defense pork is atrocious. We could run the military just as strongly by eliminating all pork. I've worked on air bases so I have seen this first hand. But it's typical government. My wife works fo r the federal government. I could tell you stories that would make you sick. You don't know the half of it. Every governmental agency is pork ridden to the same percentage as the DOD. But it's not as public as the DOD so you don't hear about it. And those governmental departments are dear to the lefties so of course the main steam media won't dare make any fluff about it. But the DOD is the thorn in the lefties satchel so the media will carry the water all day long, day after day.

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locomotive

Dec-03-13 5:58 PM

AS IF Democrats have never been obstructionists when Republicans were in the majority.

Look it up, centerish, it's on the net...

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centerfield

Dec-03-13 2:02 PM

chad, that is a classic response from a far out right winger. Your right wing tea party has already done that. The government, as it is supposed to work, is not working because of the obstructionism of the right wing party.

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chadk66

Dec-03-13 9:59 AM

the best thing that could happen to this country is for congress to come to complete gridlock. At least for a very long time.

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centerfield

Dec-03-13 1:05 AM

Mudslide, you are priceless. Look it up. It is on the Net. It is posted as are the previous years of Obama's taxes. Such a loser. As to Mitt, he would not release them because he is a tax dodger and has lots of holding in the Cayman's. Of course, the three day seminar in the Cayman's months ago was about hiding money from taxes in the Caymans. Who was the featured speaker? G Bush of course.

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