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Defining moment

November 24, 2013

Connie Feist, Minot Seldom does an issue arise within a community that can be described as a defining moment for the future of its citizens. Such an issue will be voted on in Minot on Dec....

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muleskinner

Nov-24-13 7:38 AM

I believe the spring and summer of 2011 was one of those defining moments that comes every 40 years or so. Seems as though those who were flooded have all been forgotten.

Time to focus on the poor students who don't have adequate schools and are left out in the cold.

If you want to vote for more schools and a better educational system, then vote 'yes'.

I'm all for progress, good schools, and enough money to make it all happen.

That's where the School Lands Trust Fund comes into play. Minot's school board should lean on the trust fund and not Minot's homeowners.

If you want to help your neighbors by not burdening them with more property tax, then you should cast a 'no' vote.

Yes, it is a defining moment. Those who care about the adults in Minot should vote 'no'.

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Independent

Nov-24-13 8:06 AM

There is enough money in the two cent sales tax funds to pay for this. The school board should ask the city council for grants. I'd rather see that money go to schools that where it is has been spent.

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NoDakBoy

Nov-24-13 8:41 AM

The few loud and frequent negative contributors to this site are already complaining about snow and sand removal on their streets. The city is supposed to take care of their needs without additional funds when Minot is expanding. They want public services like ambulance, fire, police, schools, etc without helping to pay for them even though costs continue to rise due to inflation. If other progressive cities can do this so can Minot. The argument isn't even about the need for schools. It is about who should pay. Those who are not progressive should try to get this "state oil money" for their snow removal and sanding if it is so easy to access and give the Minot residents the blueprint on how to access this for building schools. Adults can take care of the homefront but students can't support their own education. Vote yes for students and vote yes for progress.

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NoDakBoy

Nov-24-13 8:51 AM

Informed voters know that you cannot pay for schools through sales tax. Never have, never will. Schools are needed NOW. I don't think anyone thinks the School Land Trust Money can be accessed in the immediate future. The next legislature convenes in 2015 and don't expect them to electronic deposit funds overnight to Minot, ND. Add into the equation the time it takes to build schools and it equals a timeline that will provide seats for nearly 400 middle schools students and will keep nearly an entire elementary school in portables for over 5 years. Vote yes on Dec 10 and then fight for these funds so the bonds DO NOT HAVE TO BE SOLD. This will result in not having your property taxes go up and assures that we will have schools for our children NOW!

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Independent

Nov-24-13 9:12 AM

If the city can grant money to a state funded school then they can grant money to other schools. To those who say it cannot be done; prove it. Qoute Century code, etc..

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Legend

Nov-24-13 9:21 AM

What is the goal for our high taxes and overcrowding? "Don't come to Minot" is the very position of many of us. If progress costs this much--it is to expensive. Out of our REACH. Start by giving some grant money taken by the park board; back to schools. Check our family budgets--we r not greedy or lack civic pride; WE CANNOT AFFORD IT. The state has the money 4 schools--and yes it and sales tax money can be spent on schools by public vote or by motion. To say it can't is false.

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muleskinner

Nov-24-13 10:42 AM

Do high property taxes influence the price of a house, its worth, if it is more salable or less?

If property taxes are too high, the house is not going to be worth as much at sale time and harder to sell. Houses are sitting for months for sale is what I see.

If you want to maintain your the worth of your home, you should vote 'no'.

Too much government going on here and picking on the little guy. Take some money from the Magic Fund, go get some money from the state oil impact funds to build schools and fund the system. Whatever, it can be done.

Stop robbing Peter to pay Paul.

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Nancy1

Nov-24-13 10:43 AM

Legend please understand that the park district did NOT take money from the school district. A Minot High alum passed away - lived in California - and he left a million dollars to the school district and the parks which were used to restore the petting zoo and to build the outdoor facilities at the new Ramstad. These were his wishes.

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concerned

Nov-24-13 11:02 AM

NoDak Boy property taxes are already going up at least a $1,000 for some even before the vote. Now how fair is? In addition the request for the State Money has gone to review to the Attorney General/Legislative Council which hasn't been publicized. I just think the burden needs to be taken off these people whose property taxes are already going up a $1,000 a year. In addition, did you know how much flood insurance is going to be for everybody especially those who rebuilt...crazy.......

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concerned

Nov-24-13 11:29 AM

Oh and one more thing why are we mentioning Bismarck? We should look at the other votes most recently Kenmare and Williston that are receiving growth like we are. No way can we compare ourselves to Bismarck....nope not until we get out of this mentality and spread growth all around Minot.......

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takahari4

Nov-24-13 1:19 PM

Has anyone complaining about this been proactive in contacting their state officials and asking why they aren't helping out with this? The state has a massive surplus and could be contributing to this. If you've got time to get online and post comments you've got time to to try and push your legislators into doing something.

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Villiayth

Nov-24-13 2:51 PM

The reality of the situation, is the only people you see speaking out for the bond are those in our community that are wealthy. You do not see the average person speaking so passionately to pass the bond. Why? Because they don't have to struggle to make ends meet like so many in our community have to. They don't care about the middle or lower income citizens of this community who simply cannot afford more tax increases. I encourage everyone to think of the needs of their community and vote NO. It is time we show the school board and the city of Minot that we cannot continue to spend more money that we do not have.

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ndgirl40

Nov-24-13 3:02 PM

Just a reminder that our 2013 property taxes will be considerably less than they were in 2012 because of the property tax relief from our legislators. Even if the entire bond was sold right away, which it is NOT going to be, our taxes would still be lower. You can call and get an estimate on your 2013 property tax bill.

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Legend

Nov-24-13 3:40 PM

Go V. Go. An A 4 u 4 wisdom and common sense. We are up about $1,000 for property values, about $1k more for services. Too high already. Add boo koo more bucks for maintenance of the big school. We have not seen effective property tax relief to date. Why should we now believe any relief will not be erased by the county and city because they raise taxes at will. We have been ignored through all of this but the bond vote is our one effective voice. Vote NO and make it a historic moment and a message to those who have no concern for the majority of Minot who are not loaded.

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NoDakBoy

Nov-24-13 3:42 PM

Neither my parents or grandparents had very much money. There were times we were unsure of whether we would have Christmas presents or birthday presents growing up. They always found a way to support our educational needs. Most of my friends that were flooded in 2011 feel the same way. They are voting yes because it is the right thing to do for our children and community!

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ovomitlied

Nov-24-13 5:14 PM

The reality of this bond is the schools we have are doing fine.. This is just another way to grab money during the oil boom..making the last guys left in Minot to foot the bill when all is said and done..

The lights will go out but the bond bill will still have to be paid..

School buildings should be a standard Government issue size, shape and form..

Any extras like sports facilities should come from a fund set up by the parents of those who wish to put their kids into sports..

Always falls on the taxpayer to foot the bill for someone elses kids wishes and whims.

Education is no longer Education.. Its a Government run day spa with play grounds and baby sitting for all..

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ovomitlied

Nov-24-13 5:18 PM

Mule they are NOT robbing Peter to pay Paul..

They are robbing the Taxpayers to build yet another Government instituiton to brainwash our kids.

If the Government INSISTS on sticking their nose in Education then let them build the dammmmm school buildings..

They built the Air Base.. Let them build the schools.. Or else take their Department of Education and desolve it and give Education back to the states..

Medicaid buildings, Social Security buildings., post office buildings are all paid for by the Feds.. Time to let them pay for what they wish to control..

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ovomitlied

Nov-24-13 6:11 PM

big words.. more hyperbole

Defining moment for the future of its citizens..

Odds are 10 to 1 that Minot will survive kids will get educated and life will go on in Minot even when this bond measure is voted down..

Not everyone is rich and has the money to pay for a new Taj mahal!!!

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ovomitlied

Nov-24-13 6:15 PM

Oh Pj you are delusional..

Republicans are destroying the state?

Lowest unemployment rate in the Nation.. Shove that are Ovomitsnose and then explain how it all came about..

Libs are so uneducated to many doobies I guess..

And PJ why don't you pack your bags and go live with the rest of the liberals. North Dakota is sick to death of your kind trying to impose your Hitler like rules on this great state..

I suggest Republicans make the move to take over ND and throw out all the liberals.. Make their life so miserable they have to leave..

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ovomitlied

Nov-24-13 6:16 PM

Have another whiff or sip PJ14.. You have no clue who I am, you have no clue where I live and yet you run off at the mouth like an ignorant fool trying to get people to think you know what your talking about..

Figured out what a QE3 is yet?????

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ovomitlied

Nov-24-13 6:18 PM

When you grow up little boy and come to the table with your tax money then come back and talk.. You couldnt hold a candle to the taxes I pay and have paid over the last 60 years..

I have supported your *** since before you had your first diaper changed so when you grow up and can act like an adult then come back and tell us about paying taxes..

leech!!!!!!!

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Legend

Nov-24-13 8:14 PM

We were republican before oil. Our economy was so rock bottom we hardly noticed the crash of 2008 except for retirement accounts. Take away the oil and u still have the republicans and the dime store economy with wages to match. Now we are in oil and the reds want to take credit for it while they bash our president every day. NDB: Other cities did not spend their money on the entertainment business like hostefest, state fair, motor coach convention. Some $17 million to our state fair per Karen Krebsbach.

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Larry7

Nov-24-13 8:49 PM

Yes December 10th will be a defining moment for Minot. It will define if many of the long time residents can afford to continue to live in Minot or not. Apparently Connie doesn't have a clue as to the finical situation of many of the residents who are struggling just to make it from day to day and I doubt she ever will. VOTE NO NO NO

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Legend

Nov-24-13 9:52 PM

Lets go back to back to flood control plans after the 1969 flood. We were sold on "dry" dams in canada. canada got hydro power--we got flooded. We expanded the state fair center (all seasons arena) and put padded seats in the arena. MSU spent $250,000? on a rockpile next to broadway, not noticed by most passers by. NAWS? big bucks there--no water yet. New water treatment plant (diked in big time for flood. Our tax money is not an endless pit as some seem to think. You can't waste money that way and still have everything u want. Now they are concerned about schools? Many of our best teachers were fired in 1969 for wanting a decent wage. It is not my fault schools were their last priority--i did not vote for them or any of their special projects. I have paid for a NO vote many times.

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Legend

Nov-24-13 10:05 PM

Lets go back to back to flood control plans after the 1969 flood. We were sold on "dry" dams in canada. canada got hydro power--we got flooded. We expanded the state fair center (all seasons arena) and put padded seats in the arena. MSU spent $250,000? on a rockpile next to broadway, not noticed by most passers by. NAWS? big bucks there--no water yet. New water treatment plant (diked in big time for flood. Our tax money is not an endless pit as some seem to think. You can't waste money that way and still have everything u want. Now they are concerned about schools? Many of our best teachers were fired in 1969 for wanting a decent wage. It is not my fault schools were their last priority--i did not vote for them or any of their special projects. I have paid for a NO vote many times.

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