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Defining moment

November 24, 2013

Connie Feist, Minot Seldom does an issue arise within a community that can be described as a defining moment for the future of its citizens. Such an issue will be voted on in Minot on Dec....

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ChasinND

Dec-01-13 3:56 PM

**VOTE NO ON BOTH ITEMS ON DECEMBER 10TH!!**

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Legend

Nov-30-13 9:59 AM

If a portable classroom is the worst experience in this life--consider yourself lucky. There is speculation about growing numbers of children. Where are the numbers for the fixed income folks who can't afford this? Minot did what it could to keep wages low (including MADC businesses) and now expects everyone to pay taxes like a fatcat. Oil is paying tax for this very need. We had no opinion b4 oil came--Don't ask now.

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Independent

Nov-28-13 4:03 PM

Here r some facts from the mps wbsite. Projected enrollments thru 2017/18 r. Elementary 4463 with a 3640 cap, middle 1670 witha 1728 cap, high 2107 with a 2100 cap. The facts do not support 80m for a new high school. Elementary yes, middle and central conversion possibly. Also its interesting the budget outlays march the revenues which include over 10% increase in the last two years. So, back to the drawing board mps.

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ChasinND

Nov-27-13 11:28 PM

ceci***eli WAKE UP AND SMELL THE ROSES. Your not fooling anybody, We all know the vote is Dec. 10th and we going to vote a big NO. Now go stick your head in the sand bank with the rest of the school board!!!

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Legend

Nov-27-13 11:22 PM

We voted down a building 4 hostefest and after it was built taxpayer money was given to benefit hostefest. MADC, because of its percent of failure would most likely not pass today. Flood control and NAWS have a pathetic history. The salespeople have not earned our trust. It has been about conflict of interest, greed, favors, corporate welfare and deceit. The terrible attitude of the city toward flood victims was an eye opener for many. I voted yes for NAWS and MADC--i apologize for doing that.

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Legend

Nov-27-13 11:07 PM

We voted down a building 4 hostefest and after it was built taxpayer money was given to benefit hostefest. MADC, because of its percent of failure would most likely not pass today. Flood control and NAWS have a pathetic history. The salespeople have not earned our trust. It has been about conflict of interest, greed, favors, corporate welfare and deceit. The terrible attitude of the city toward flood victims was an eye opener for many. I voted yes for NAWS and MADC--i apologize for doing that.

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concerned

Nov-27-13 7:51 AM

Not lying about the $1,000 increase in property taxes over the yeard. Did the research you have to remember people in Southwest Minot getting a huge hefty increase in property taxes because of the commercial property behind their houses.

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Legend

Nov-27-13 12:57 AM

CP: I was 21 in 69 and a newshound. i lived thru the whole thing. b4 i do my research--i challenge u to prove me wrong with specific written references. why would canada ask our mayor if we were "waffling" on the dams deal? was it because of the hydro power which takes much water? was it the hidden agreement they were afraid we might learn of? if all was on the up and up there is no basis for the question.

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Legend

Nov-27-13 12:14 AM

The same "yes" people who agreed with all of the past spending, now want school money.

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Legend

Nov-27-13 12:10 AM

Society will pay the price for those who won,t/can't work the same as it pays for those who take too much by means such as a business monopoly,frivolous lawsuit or hiding money overseas. The ACA takes from greed in the medical profession to get better healthcare for all others. In 1985 we voted for "flood control dams in canada". Those words are a much better match to "dry" dams than they are to "storage space". In 2011 our mayor said he did not know what was in the agreement with canada. I never heard the term "storage space" or anything about an agreement with canada until after the operating rules for the dams were discussed after the 2011 flood. After the meetings we were told the agreement was canada would never release more than 5000 cfs (kx news). i did not hear anything about storage space. How does one buy storage space and a maximum release when the inflow cannot be controlled? if we were told any more the "flood control dams in

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ovomitlied

Nov-26-13 4:55 PM

The bond will fail 100% guaranteed

Just don't forget to vote folks.. Every vote will count...

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ovomitlied

Nov-26-13 4:53 PM

Legand where you story runs off track is the working people pay a tax for M?M SS The Aca doesnot take from everyone.. It takes from the rich and gives to the poor..

It has no requirments for those without a job.. If your unemployed and wish to work under the table you can get free medical, free food and subsidized housing.. You will have no skin in the game. The guy next door will have to pick up your tab..

Look at how people HATE folks who milk the system and live off food stamps, fake disabilites, and pop a kid every year to get welfare..

Now add Insurance to the list. Ya reallly think thats going to make these free grabber more popular?

Wait till next year when 150 MILLION more people get kicked of their employers insurance.. Lets see how the moral of those companies hold up. Disgruntled employees, work slow downs, poor product.. all thanks to Obamacare..

The American people have not even felt more then the tiny tip of this shaft.. The worst is yet to come.

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Villiayth

Nov-26-13 3:12 PM

If the bond issue keeps getting rejected in Minot, what makes you think us voters are stupid enough to vote for it this time? For the person who says that property taxes are not going up over $1,000 for some people, you obviously did not have a flooded house! Many homes that have rebuilt have doubled or tripled in value in the past year due to being rebuilt. Those homeowners are looking at HUGE property tax increases despite any tax relief coming from the state. This of course is also not counting changes in flood insurance that may be coming our way if our state delegation is unable to pull a deal through. The only way your property taxes are not going to increase is if your home value has stayed the same, which is not the case for many homeowners. It's time for our citizens to stand firm against the bond issue, and speak out united in vote that WE CAN'T AFFORD NEW TAXES! Don't let the yes voters try to guilt you or bully you into voting with them.

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Cutperfect

Nov-26-13 1:22 PM

Facts? You bring us facts? We want irrational thought! We want uninformed opinions!

"The rock pile at MSU was paid for by contributions from private citizens. The dry****was to be built north of Burlington/Minot and would have controlled the Des Lacs River. The Save the Valley group composed of various people north of here - Orlin Hanson and Mr. Banker - he was from Mohall - were two leaders who did everything they could to defeat the dry dam. Finally, after several years of trying to get the dry****built Minot leaders went with Plan B - which was not as good as Plan A - and that was to buy storage in the dams in Canada that were being built. Those dams were NEVER intended to be dry. I am as unhappy as the next flooded person how it all turned out in 2011 but we need to keep the facts straight.

Don't believe me - do your own research. So let us hate everybody and then take it out on the schools which had nothing to do with the Fair Stand, Hostfest, etc.. Makes sense to me.&qu

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Cutperfect

Nov-26-13 1:16 PM

@mule The district has tried running a bond issue in the past to correct some of the issues this bond issue covers, but it was rejected. Kicking the can down the road makes it more expensive in the long run. I will be voting yes.

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Legend

Nov-26-13 11:43 AM

ovo: the numbers are from Ins. co's., the Fed. and the AMA. You said people will die from the ACA--that is speculation. The 45,000 who die from no medical care may live under the ACA. Suicides and drug overdoses have nothing to do with or without the ACA. What is your point? When u r always right and everyone else is all wrong; like bengazi news, there is a name for that. let's talk a year from now when healthcare reform is so successful that any campaign against it would be dead on arrival. S.S. is an insurance program managed by the FED. The most efficient and successful ins. program of it's type in the country. Not to the objectors though. It is paid for by the people who get the benefits. The same crowd that wants to eliminate the ACA, also wants to eliminate Med/Med and S.S.

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Nancy1

Nov-26-13 10:14 AM

Removing the building levy in Minot was shortsighted.

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Nancy1

Nov-26-13 10:13 AM

Minot is the only large school district and one of about 6 in the entire state that does not have a building levy. Building levies are designed to take care of the school buildings. At one time Minot had one and it was voted out sometime in the early 70's. So repairs and updates must come out of the general fund. Also, Minot has to keep a good sized interim fund because of the base students - DOD money is voted on every year and it comes to school districts like Minot whenever. There is no set date and the formula changes, also, from time to time. In the late 90's and onward quite a bit of progress was made on roofs, some electrical, etc part of which was paid for by DOD funds that were meant for building upkeep. These were "extra" for that purpose only. DOD funds can be used at the three base schools as well as high school campuses - where base students attend. If you want lots of details on all of this it is public record.

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takahari4

Nov-26-13 9:45 AM

Heres a peek into how things work around funding of public schools in the US. Just go ahead and jump straight to the funding section. *******en.m.wikipedia****/wiki/Education_in_the_United_States And I just want to add my property taxes did NOT go up $1000. They went up roughly $75 for the year. Whomever is getting that big of an increase has grounds to have it dismissed or is just lying.

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cecilsdeli

Nov-26-13 2:25 AM

Vote No on December 9th on both items...!!!

Vote Yes on December 10th on both items...!!!

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muleskinner

Nov-25-13 11:47 PM

I saw an ad on tv aired by the 'yes' voters. I had no idea that Minot's schools were in such poor shape! Who has been ignoring these problems with the schools all of these years?

The homeowner has been doing his part and paying the property tax, so the homeowner can't really be blamed.

Must be a problem with the educational system and the school board.

And the voting citizens are supposed to support their failure?

The pictures on tv are worth a thousand words. Those in charge of the school system have been doing a poor job. They provide the evidence, incriminating as it is.

Or, they are just painting a picture so bleak that there is no truth to it whatsoever.

The vote has to be 'no'.

Their motives are obvious. And that is to have somebody pay for their mistakes.

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ovomitlied

Nov-25-13 10:13 PM

CDC

•Drug overdose was the leading cause of injury death in 2010. Among people 25 to 64 years old, drug overdose caused more deaths than motor vehicle traffic crashes.1 •Drug overdose death rates have been rising steadily since 1992 with a 102% increase from 1999 to 2010 alone.1 •In 2010, 30,006 (78%) of the 38,329 drug overdose deaths in the United States were unintentional, 5,298 (14%) of suicidal intent, and 2,963 (8%) were of undetermined intent.1 •In 2011, drug misuse and abuse caused about 2.5 million emergency department (ED) visits. Of these, more than 1.4 million ED visits were related to pharmaceuticals.

78% were unintentional? That means these drug addicts didnt mean to overdose.. Obamacare is going to clean them guys right up right Legand???

You guys live in this fantasy world. Drug addicts will not sign up. An Overdose leads to a trip to ER.. If Obama "cared" he would close the borders stop the drugs and "heal" the addicts.. NOT HAPPENING!!!!

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ovomitlied

Nov-25-13 10:10 PM

So legand hurry down and sign up.. Pay the way for these 45,000 people who die..

Then come back and tell me how many die each year even tho they have top rate medical insurance..

Then you want us to believe these numbers..

We already know Obama is a liar.. Proven fact over and over again.. The numbers quoted are over 19 years old.. No up to date facts..

You can spout all the numbers you want but you have no ACTUAL facts to back them up.

100,000 die from wrong drugs.. You are a sucker aren't you..

DRUG OVERDOSE ring your bell Legand?????

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Legend

Nov-25-13 8:00 PM

OVO: 45,000 people die is the U.S. each year because they can't afford medical care. 100,000 more die from the wrong medication. The ACA may well help vets when they are denied coverage because it is determined "not work related". personnally i don't want an abortion and won't get one because i don,t have to. it is a female issue because men have no experience with it.

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Legend

Nov-25-13 7:42 PM

Lefty: good words except nimrod means "good hunter-gatherer". It sounds bad but is actually good to the outdoorsy type.

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