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Policy cancellations: Obama will allow old plans

November 14, 2013

WASHINGTON (AP) — Bowing to pressure, President Barack Obama on Thursday announced changes to his health care law to give insurance companies the option to keep offering consumers plans that would......

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73Hockey

Nov-14-13 12:43 PM

All hail Obama who will now ALLOW us to keep our old plans! Who does he think he is?! So my insurance company is being DIRECTED to let me back in with my old plan. This keeps getting better and better...

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MattRothchild

Nov-14-13 1:55 PM

I just read something about this in Bloomberg Businessweek. According to the people who actually put this law together, these health insurance plans are SUPPOSED to get cancelled. The spin is that the people carrying them would be getting switched to "higher quality" health insurance plans that cover more things...and that the people who had these health insurance policies were paying "artificially low premiums", a practice that would go away with the implementation of the law.

The fact that they're caving on this tells me 1) this law is utterly unworkable from a practical, real-world standpoint and 2) the policymakers in DC don't really care about whether or not the law works, just about what is politically expedient.

If policy truly does trump popularity, they would have stood by their law as written and not made any changes. Strange, because they were more than willing to do just that during the "shutdown".

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ovomitlied

Nov-14-13 2:24 PM

Yes Hockey You can "maybe" he said get your old plan back but at what cost?

Just more hype from Obama.. More disruption to folks lives and no doubt more costly..

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Legend

Nov-14-13 2:45 PM

No one knew how health insurers would respond to the ACA--now we know. With all of the right wing objection to the ACA and knowing it would eliminate "bad" policies thereby getting into Ins. company profits--it is no surprise problem arose. be fair in your evaluation. how many policies would have seen prices increase or have been cancelled w/o the ACA? A congressman from Alaska just said an extremely high number of alaska residents could not buy any health ins. now they can and he said he signed up himself.

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takkak

Nov-14-13 3:04 PM

How nice of him to "possibly extend the policies" until after the 2014 election...

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locomotive

Nov-14-13 3:05 PM

Keep defending this, Legend. It's apparent you aren't interested in hearing any other viewpoint.

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MattRothchild

Nov-14-13 3:17 PM

To Veritas:

If policy truly does trump popularity, they (meaning, the people who advocated for this law and were the driving force behind it but are now backtracking and trying to walk back features of the law they so strongly supported) would have stood by their law as written and not made any changes. Strange, because they (again, the people who so strongly supported this law, advocated for it, and did everything in their power to ensure it wasn't dismantled, watered down, repealed, or anything else like that) were more than willing to do just that during the "shutdown".

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MattRothchild

Nov-14-13 3:21 PM

To Legend:

You need to read the Businessweek article. Those "bad" policies were also low-cost ones. By "cancelling" them, it ensured the further expansion of insurance company profits, not cutting into them as you allege.

A lot of fact-free discussion when it comes to this topic, yes?

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takkak

Nov-14-13 4:11 PM

Who needs facts when you have Democrats?

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locomotive

Nov-14-13 5:15 PM

"Keep defending this, Legend. It's apparent you aren't interested in hearing any other viewpoint."

"Like yours! OOfdah!!!"

Veritas, it doesn't have to be my viewpoint. I think Matt's viewpoints at Nov-14-13 3:17 PM and Nov-14-13 3:21 PM will do excellently.

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MattRothchild

Nov-14-13 5:18 PM

"I cant wait for all these people that pay for the same old policy that allows them almost no coverage to finally be happy"

If they were already happy with what they had and wanted to keep it, what difference does it make to you?

Oh yeah. It derails the agenda you fight so hard to support.

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locomotive

Nov-14-13 5:26 PM

"You asked for it you got it."

Leftywing, you're smoking your cornbread if you think people asked for their policies to be cancelled. They actually imagined the president WASN'T lying to them about keeping the policy and doctor they liked. Period.

The "fix" is reedonkulous too.

Katie Pavlich: "In short, President Obama will allow insurers to offer old plans (which are impossible to get back) so long as they push propaganda about the government run exchanges. Also, President Obama seems to think that because the government can force people buy health insurance, it can force insurance companies to sell it, which isn’t the case."

American Health Insurance Plans' Karen Ignagni: "Changing the rules after health plans have already met the requirements of the law could destabilize the market and result in higher premiums for consumers."

Who cares? The Democrats up for re-election care the most...

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Russ98387

Nov-14-13 7:12 PM

Quote of the week, "I hope Obama and his administration are simply stupid, I'd hate to think they are really this incompetent." Another unilateral unconstitutional change to obamacare that a week ago, Obama said couldn't be done.

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ovomitlied

Nov-14-13 8:42 PM

Notea4me.. Paid thru our medicare tax.. In other words all you Obamabots think it would be grand if the working class would just support your sorry as$$..

Your one very sick sick class of people..

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Obama BOT

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ovomitlied

Nov-14-13 8:43 PM

Obama Bot leeches or in other words liberals..

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ovomitlied

Nov-14-13 8:45 PM

Hows that Hope and Change working out for ObamaBOTS?

Seems he has those walking back shoes on again today.. Looks like they are getting alot of wear lately.

Hes a loser and the sooner you libs get that thru your head the sooner the country can get itself turned around.

So next year 2014 all these people who do get back in (which insurance companies tonite are saying maybe 7% will qualify) will then get yet another cancelation notice..

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ovomitlied

Nov-14-13 8:47 PM

And folks we have a celbrity here in the blogs..

Good Old Rajjjj He signed up and got a subsidy.. One of the 42 people in North dakota who signed up.

Who would have thunk? One of our fellow bloggers is in the outstanding signup group of 42 people in the entire state who signed up for Obabma BOT Care

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ovomitlied

Nov-14-13 8:49 PM

leftwing I see you moved up in the class with Obama.. You KNOW whats in peoples policies and You know what is good for them and what is not..

Ya know what the worst thing on a women is leftwing.. A man about your age or in otherwords..YOU!!!!

How do I know that? the same way you know whats good for other peoples insurance..

SSSOB!!!

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ovomitlied

Nov-14-13 9:01 PM

Whats up with these libs guys.. What the h311 is their problem.. Now all of a suddent they want to fix something..

Vote everyone of them out of office ..

Sens. Mary Landrieu (D-La.), Kay Hagan (D-N.C.), Mark Begich (D-Alaska) and Mark Pryor (D-Ark.) have all supported different changes to the law in recent days. Reps. John Barrow (D-Ga.) and Mike McIntyre (D-N.C.), both top GOP targets who voted against ObamaCare in the first place, have joined a GOP-led bill aimed at keeping people from losing their current insurance policies. Other House Democrats haven’t ruled out voting for similar legislation. The widespread action is a sign that Democrats facing tough races are increasingly worried about the law’s adverse effects on their reelection chances.

Give these guys exactly what they deserve a NO VOTE!!!!

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Missy1

Nov-14-13 9:19 PM

My son lives in Oregon, you can't get any more Liberal than that. He is worried how much it is actually is going to cost him, for him and his wife and Son.

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Missy1

Nov-14-13 9:24 PM

Left wing, it is about time you grow up.

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Missy1

Nov-14-13 9:34 PM

Left wing, my plan is still in place. 100 dollar deductible and 500 major medical deductible. My husband has applied for his SS and is going on Medicare, which he paid into every year. I will have my same plan, half the price. Not that you know anything about my insurance. Because, all you do is cry about life and how cruel it is to you.

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ovomitlied

Nov-14-13 10:44 PM

Wow veritas Problem with the truth again?

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ovomitlied

Nov-14-13 11:58 PM

Just think about it notea.. The Republicans asked Obama to delay the individual mandate for one year and avoid the shutdown

but big fat liar was too dannn arrogant and refused..

hence he got the shutdown.. which could have been avoided if he had taken the indvidual mandate..

Whic he just came back and delayed today in a round about way..

Mr arrogant has no brain..

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ovomitlied

Nov-15-13 12:00 AM

frekan clue huh notea?

Barack Obama said he would consider embracing a single-payer health-care system, beloved by liberals, as his plan for broader coverage evolves over time.

Listen up. Single-payer health care might just work. (AP Photo/Alex Brandon) “If I were designing a system from scratch, I would probably go ahead with a single-payer system,” Obama told some 1,800 people at a town-hall style meeting on the economy

NoTea Liar Liar.. You guys just keep walking into it..

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