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Different view of our state

November 3, 2013

Kevin R. Tengesdal, Bismarck Recently, Congressman Kevin Cramer issued a press release where he invited President Barack Obama to make his first presidential visit to North Dakota....

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locomotive

Nov-10-13 6:57 PM

The private insurers are cancelling policies because of changes initiated by...wait for it...the government.

In the liberal world, no private business could ever do any good for any citizen. Government is the only entity that always does good for the citizens. (Just ask Legend, as he's waxed poetic in this viewpoint before.)

If "government run" means the gov't is the single payer, then we'll have to say that Obamacare is heavily "government influenced" and perhaps just another step on the way to becoming "government run."

To NT4M and other diehard liberals, this is not a bad thing.

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locomotive

Nov-09-13 10:21 PM

"It is not run by the government."

Then why are there federal exchanges aka marketplaces?

Not all states agreed to participate in the federal marketplaces. Adam Hamm was on the radio today describing this. He said that a total of 30 people in ND have signed up using the 3 insurance carriers that offer plans through the fed marketplace. He also said that close to 36,000 people in ND are losing their current policies.

Obamacare seems to make a bad situation (third-party payer system) worse. But take heart, NT4M, you might get your wish for single-payer yet. That's what the President has supported in the past.

Now is America ready for this yet? Hmmm...

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locomotive

Nov-09-13 12:25 AM

"Well, then maybe your sources are illegitimate."

Then cite yours, NT4M.

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ndvetrn

Nov-07-13 12:02 AM

Willygarr/canook,

How many times are you going to post this. It doesn't become fact just you keep saying it, just like all liberal pundits.

Most are still asking where you attended college before becoming an officer in the U.S. Army and if you didn't attend the military academy where did you receive your military training. I'm disappointed that you will not talk to me anymore.

donnamy/starrett states....

"Black is not the Republicans problem"

We only have your history to judge you by.

How many times have you crossed the racist line?....Hundreds!

How many racist RNC emails have been exposed?...Hundreds!

How many misspelled racist signs have we seen?.... Hundreds!

Oct 30, 2013 [that's less than a week ago]... The Chisago County Republican Party posted a picture of a slavery sale with the title.."Pro Choice?...Against slavery?...Don't buy one."

During the last Republican shutdown was that a Democrat waving the Confederate flag in front of the White

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ndvetrn

Nov-06-13 10:34 PM

Kevin,

We are a democratic state within a democratic nation. Although I can understand your frustration with our ultra conservative super majority within North Dakota please understand that this President doesn't represent the super majority here. And most in North Dakotans could care less if He visited. We have to live with Presidolt Obama and you have to live with the ultra conservative North Dakotans as you say.

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locomotive

Nov-06-13 11:56 AM

in this source...

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locomotive

Nov-06-13 11:56 AM

wiki...

"By deliberately drawing on bipartisan ideas—the same basic outline was supported by former Senate majority leaders Howard Baker, Bob Dole, Tom Daschle and George J. Mitchell—the bill's drafters hoped to increase the chances of getting the necessary votes for passage.

"However, following the adoption of an individual mandate as a central component of the proposed reforms by Democrats, Republicans began to oppose the mandate and threaten to filibuster any bills that contained it. Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell, who led the Republican congressional strategy in responding to the bill, calculated that Republicans should not support the bill, and worked to keep party discipline and prevent defections:

"It was absolutely critical that everybody be together because if the proponents of the bill were able to say it was bipartisan, it tended to convey to the public that this is O.K., they must have figured it out."

No dislike of Pres. Obama in this sour

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locomotive

Nov-06-13 11:54 AM

NT4M, I haven't found sources that verify your claims that Republicans' opposition to ACA is only President Barack Obama.

Republicans had been on board in the ACA debate until the individual mandate was put in. Then they were against it.

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locomotive

Nov-04-13 10:19 PM

Veritas, NT4M brought up Romney first. Yes, Mitt Romney was on NBC's Meet the Press on Sunday. Perhaps he was there to agree with host David Gregory that Romneycare was the same as Obamacare, but alas, he didn't toe that line. He said what he wanted to, in spite of everything.

Now just so we're all the same page: did Gov. Romney win the presidency? No. Pres. Obama won re-election. Good. Let's go on from here...

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locomotive

Nov-04-13 4:00 PM

"Furthermore, it follows the typical Republican rules - it has to involve the corporate insurance thieves, it can't even have a public option, and can't be single payer. All it really does is establish some new rules for the insurance thieves to figure out ways around."

Interesting how a law opposed by Republicans and passed only by Democrats ends up following "Republican rules"...

NT4M, talk to the Democrat party leaders about this faulty law, because it's their baby.

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locomotive

Nov-04-13 3:58 PM

"Well, Republican Mitt Romney passed almost the same exact law in his state when he was gov. The only real reason Republicans opposed it was because they hate Obama because he is black and has a Muslim name."

Gov. Romney was on Sunday talk shows explaining that the Mass. plan was state-run, not nationally-run. He also said that Pres. Obama should have been more truthful about ACA.

Republicans were in favor of ACA, until the individual mandate was introduced, then they weren't in favor and tried to stop its passage. Look it up.

Besides, it was PPACA until it became Obamacare and Pres. Obama was not opposed to lending the law his moniker.

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locomotive

Nov-04-13 3:53 PM

"The Chisago County Republican Party is very sorry that something so clearly improper (either intended or in poor taste) ever made it to our page," part of the apology read. "The apology, signed by the Chisago County Republican Party executive committee, also said the organization could not pinpoint the person responsible because "a large number" had administrative rights to the page. "Those rights, which allow pictures and updates to be posted, were revoked by the committee until the person responsible could be found, the statement said."

According to willgrr, it only takes one bonehead to taint an entire village.

So be it. Is Obamacare working out fine for everyone? Do you get to keep your insurance AND your doctor if you like them? No? And why is that? A Democrat told you that you could, and it's not turning out that way? Well, that's too bad.

Congrats on #1 poster too, willgrr.

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MattRothchild

Nov-04-13 12:00 PM

Written like someone who's upset that the world has passed them by. And so they do everything they can to talk down others.

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namexxx

Nov-04-13 10:46 AM

Will Garr -- #1 Poster three weeks running!

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pslater

Nov-04-13 2:03 AM

Nice try, however futile! But correct as our infrastructure (where there was any) is crumbling, our environment is being poisoned and changing demographics all could turn our state into a cesspool where hypocritical politicians dwell and thrive through corruption and bribes.

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locomotive

Nov-03-13 7:25 PM

The discussion about alternatives to Obamacare and/or results of implementing Obamacare has been good, starrett and NT4M.

These are issues that I hope were brought up in Congress before Obamacare passed, i.e., the pros vs. cons, the positives vs. negatives, etc.

But NT4M, one can't really call Obamacare a "Republican" plan when Republicans opposed its passage and tried to defund or delay its implementation.

I know it's always fun for Dem/libs to blame Republicans (for everything) but it'd work a lot better if Republicans actually participated in passing ACA.

Uh, no, they weren't. It's all yours, Democrats. Enjoy.

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Nancy1

Nov-03-13 12:09 PM

North Dakota is a wonderful state that is the bread basket of the world. It is number one in producing 13 crops - from spring wheat to durum to lentils to honey and is a top producer in many other crops. It has been blessed with great natural resources - soil and minerals. And thought no place or thing is perfect - I think the people of North Dakota are pretty darn wonderful.

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Legend

Nov-03-13 9:49 AM

Most of our "R" politicians ran against Obama and Obamacare. Oil spend millions if not billions to make our Pres. 1 term. then they ask for keystone XL and yell because he did not jump on it. the TP has badmouthed him and lied about him for some 6 years now. if i were him i would be thinkin where they can put that pipeline. any surprise he does not accept a tp invite to a bright red state? He is probably thinking "beware of Greeks bearing gifts". how about Kevin explain to Minot the tp platform of NO NEW TAXES instead?

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