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Delay the mandate?

October 29, 2013

The new national health insurance law, Obamacare, has become something like a runaway locomotive — doing an enormous amount of damage but with no one willing to ease off on the throttle....

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JackAaah

Oct-29-13 8:43 AM

NO....I feel Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi and Obama, all of my Democrat Party, were right. In not bending to allow the delay of Omamacare during the government budget crisis. So let's not buckle now and allow for a delay.....we must move forword at all cost....and we do know it 'will not cost us one dime'....

Come Together

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Missy1

Oct-29-13 12:42 PM

Leftwing, don't worry, when you sign up for Obamacare, that will be the plan you will be on. Enjoy!

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Missy1

Oct-29-13 4:01 PM

Just talked to someone today that said, they went to renew their Health Ins. (BC-BS) and they told him they no longer handled the policy he had been on for years. They said he could pay the 1800.00 a month for a policy that came close or triple his deductible. So he chose the later. He just got a letter cancelling him all together. Obama is a Liar.

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Missy1

Oct-29-13 8:08 PM

Bill Garr, Obama said: You have your own Insurance, You can keep it. Period. You have your Doctors, You can keep Your Doctors. Period.

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Missy1

Oct-29-13 8:09 PM

You want names of people who have lost their insurance. You are just not that Trustworthy.

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Missy1

Oct-29-13 10:24 PM

Well, aren't you funny larry7. Go have another drink or the drug of your choice.

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centerfield

Oct-30-13 12:11 AM

So, let's take the framework of the Ryan plan for Medicare and plug it into the Obamacare machine. It will work because it was a Republican who devised it. Well, should we look at what the machinery was for Ryan's revision of Medicare? It was exactly like the rollout on line for Obama care. But, the wingers would champion it because it is Republican and of course written by a caucasian.

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angeR69

Oct-30-13 1:13 AM

Wake up people! Let's pretend Obamacare is going to be a good deal. Let's pretend it's not going to break the bank. Let's pretend all the promises Obama made are true.

The fact is that we have come to a state of affairs wherein it is acceptable for the President of the United States to come on TV and tell us what healthcare choices the federal government is going to ALLOW us to make.

You think we are immune from tyranny because we elect our tyrants?

Why do you think the left hates the tea party so much? Why do you think the Republican establishment is so invested in discrediting tea party members within Republican ranks?

The fact is, the tea party movement represents practically the only organized opposition to the power grab in Washington.

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angeR69

Oct-30-13 1:21 AM

"But, the wingers would champion it because it is Republican and of course written by a caucasian."

Race-baiting, Duracell? I'm disappointed. I thought you were above all that. For the record, I've championed nothing that Ryan has done.

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JackAaah

Oct-30-13 9:30 AM

'man date'?....if ND had just moved forword, and embraced gay marriage like the rest of the nation is doing, the man's would not have to just date....they could get married after their 'man date'...

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ndvetrn

Oct-30-13 11:14 PM

My wife baked a cake with fudge frosting and left it on the table to cool. She left the room and when she came back found our son Obama under the table with cake and fudge frosting all over his face and hands. When she ask what happened Obama said a man came into the house and ate the cake. She asked what did he look and he responded He looked like he was eating the cake.

Some accept responsibility and some lie.

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ndvetrn

Oct-30-13 11:32 PM

My SOB Obama is. Willess, Garr a fish that we shoot with a rifle, Billy boy come blow your horn the sheep in the meadow and the cows in the corn. Where or where is billy boy blue who looks after the sheep. He's under a haystack fast asleep

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EarlyBird

Oct-31-13 9:00 AM

I'm pretty sure we as a country need to sit down and wait until the government fixes itself. We are to blame for feeding the government to much money and now it is sick. We need to let the government digest what it has swallowed or it will upchuck all over all of us. We need to be patient and let the government beg for more money just like addicts beg for their fix. The politicians remind me of the movie where all adults are dead and the world is run by adolescents who can not read or write.

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locomotive

Oct-31-13 10:19 AM

billlllllygitmo: "Missy1, Obama is a Liar. ????????

"Try backing up your story with facts."

For all avid administration apologists, just in case you didn't get the memo....

This is from Forbes 8-5-13

"The bottom line is that Obama Care guarantees that you can keep either your doctor or your plan are false, and nearly half of voters with health insurance do not believe that they will be able to keep it under the new healthcare reform law, according to a recent poll."

This is now happening in real time to thousands of US citizens.

Read on....

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locomotive

Oct-31-13 10:22 AM

"Under normal circumstances, a President who breaks a solemn pledge to the American people (George H.W. Bush: “Read my lips”) on a major policy issue pays an astronomical price. Knowing this, the Obama Agitprops have employed public relations, misdirection, hocus-pocus, bait-and-switch and a compliant press to avoid the consequences of having misled the American people on the most consequential program of the Obama presidency.

"Those who want Obama Care repealed are simply exercising the same rights as consumers to return their purchase after being subject to fraud. And I thought Obama was a big supporter of consumer protection. That’s what his Obama Fact Check site says."

Hey, I kinda like this author, Paul Roderick Gregory, from Forbes. He's speaking from a REALITY perspective.

Obamacare wasn't popular before it was passed in a partisan vote. It's not popular now, as people find out "what was in the bill." It should go. Big Time.

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locomotive

Oct-31-13 10:27 AM

"I'm pretty sure we as a country need to sit down and wait until the government fixes itself."

EarlyBird, like that's ever going to happen...

Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely

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centerfield

Oct-31-13 12:37 PM

I am sure that Gregory would be a favorite to you, loco, as he is about as far right wing as they get. Why don't you want people to have health care, Loco? I still don't have an answer from the right as to why they are spending upwards of a billion dollars over the past years to advertise against this concept. Who benefits from this? The Republican party? You? We currently rank 39 in the world for longevity. Almost every free world nation with government health care ranks above us, and yet we spend more than twice as much per person than they do. why? Do you have health insurance? If so, why do you not want the benefits of the health care program for others? What you know about the negatives of this program you have gotten from the right wing news media and talk shows. How correct is it? It has been estimated that more than half of the propaganda being put forth by the right is false. Why? Who will benefit the most from the health care program being stopped?

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centerfield

Oct-31-13 12:39 PM

Same question to you , whistler. Instead of opinions, why don't you posts actual facts about those people who face the injustices of the current health care system. Answer the questions with facts and not the winger media answers.

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centerfield

Oct-31-13 1:38 PM

That is good, whistler, but you still forget something. "Facts" to back up the statement. You are pretty big blogger when you don't have to back up your skewed opinions.

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locomotive

Oct-31-13 2:56 PM

"Why don't you want people to have health care, Loco?"

Have I said that "I don't want people to have health care" centerish? No, I haven't.

I think that Obamacare is tremendously flawed, with the biggest error being the individual mandate (TAX) on everyone to make a purchase of a product (insurance) they might or might not have wanted.

To make your question at all valid, I'd have to accept the premise that everyone SHOULD have insurance. I disagree with the premise.

As it was, the third-party payer system for health care removed the patient from the actual costs. The insurer paid and knew the actual costs. One who self-pays can see those costs, up front and personal ($6 aspirin).

The third-party payer system is broken and needs to be addressed, but Obamacare doesn't fix it. Costs for individuals and families will go up. Prove otherwise, centerish.

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locomotive

Oct-31-13 3:00 PM

"What you know about the negatives of this program you have gotten from the right wing news media and talk shows. How correct is it? It has been estimated that more than half of the propaganda being put forth by the right is false."

Who gave forth the estimate? Left-wing sources and/or talk shows? How credible is that?

Didn't you know that healthcare lobbyists were contributing willy-nilly to Pres. Obama's campaign coffers, before Obamacare passed? Why is that, centerish?

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centerfield

Oct-31-13 7:14 PM

"Fact is most posts here are of the posters opinion and should be based on common sense not skewed to fit ones own bias's." Really!!!! Actually, : Facts in most posts here should be the basis of their opinions and not skewed to their own personal bias.:::: No wonder you cannot defend or back up your opinions because they are not based on facts. That seems to be a malady floating around your group. In fact, it is an epidemic among you wingers.

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centerfield

Oct-31-13 7:21 PM

Actually, loco, the percentage of false material produced by the right is higher than that. How do you know. well, there are sites to check facts on. Of course, they are not used much by the right. You have politifact, snopes, factcheck, and a number of others. Maybe you could start by checking on death panels. Now, that is an easy place to start. So, you aren't against people getting health care but you post against it all the time. Most all of those times you are negative towards healthcare without factually backing up your post. If your history is any indication, you don't present facts because you don't have any. Just like whistler, you base it on your opinion and your supposedly common sense and not facts.

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ndvetrn

Oct-31-13 10:56 PM

Garr, fish we shoot with a rifle. Get over it. I am who I am, no other user names.

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angeR69

Oct-31-13 11:30 PM

Excellent posts, Loco.

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