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Defund Obamacare

September 29, 2013

Steven Moen, Minot A prophetic quote from Nikita Khrushchev, former leader of the Soviet Union, dated Sept. 29 1959: “Your children’s children will live under communism. You Americans are so gullible....

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locomotive

Oct-08-13 11:01 AM

Convenient whipping boy, that GOP.

When the Democrats' fondest dream comes true, that of getting rid of the GOP, what will they do next? Finally own something? Doubt it...

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MarkHighwater

Oct-06-13 8:33 AM

Defund the war machine.

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centerfield

Oct-05-13 5:47 PM

Come on Whistler, just some honest dialogue... you can do it... well , maybe not. No, definitely not.

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subman

Oct-05-13 8:14 AM

I knew it still blaming BUSH and giving us false facts... typical libs... just cause you say it we're supposed to believe it ... well its all lies

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subman

Oct-04-13 5:27 PM

sure can tell you lefties have no clue on budgets, income and expenses. Just because you have your credit card maxed out and haven't kept up on payments you think you should be able to keep spending just because you want to. It doesn't work in real life so why should it in Washington?

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centerfield

Oct-04-13 3:24 PM

Quite obviously, loco, you really don't understand what the debt ceiling really is. "Why all the hubbub about the debt ceiling? Because it gives this particular administration carte blanche to spend whatever it wants, with no accountability." The money has already been approved by the congress and spent. Now they have to pay the bill. It does not benefit the President but does benefit the country's credit rating. We know that from the previous Republican/tea party blunder on the debt ceiling.

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locomotive

Oct-04-13 8:14 AM

Right, subman. Excuse me. Correct, subman.

When there's no written budget to examine, to show what's been approved for spending, there's no accountability.

Why all the hubbub about the debt ceiling? Because it gives this particular administration carte blanche to spend whatever it wants, with no accountability.

Then again, I really can't be saying "government" and "accountability" in the same sentence. Oxymoron indeed.

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subman

Oct-04-13 8:05 AM

if the dems wouldn't comprimise on the government shutdown why would the repubs think they would comprimise on the budget.. the truth is it's been over 4 years since they even have come up with a budget let alone pass one yet they seem to blame that on the repubs too. must still be Bush's fault

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Legend

Oct-03-13 7:32 PM

ACA had a majority until reds lied about it--no wonder they want a piece or all of it now or they'll shut er down. it is not commy to attack out of control costs as in some medical care. it has been done to many industries here when their control and high cost threatened the well being of the country. we did not turn commy by doing it. we r still a world model for freedom--we are not with medical cost or care. too much rush and fox talk for the writer.

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locomotive

Oct-03-13 9:15 AM

"What they don't cover is the 14 times that Senate Dems have requested the budget proposals go to committee since April of 2013."

With conditions, centerish, with conditions. Look it up.

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locomotive

Oct-03-13 9:12 AM

"Nearly three-quarters of voters – 72 percent – oppose shutting down the government in order to block or weaken the Affordable Care Act, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released Tuesday.

"While the poll shows the public is split on how they feel about Obamacare – 45 percent support, 47 percent opposed – nearly 6 in 10 voters say Congress should not cut off funding to prevent implementation.

"Americans are certainly not in love with Obamacare, but they reject decisively the claim by Congressional Republicans that it is so bad that it's worth closing down the government to stop it," said Peter Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute, in a memo accompanying the survey results."

This must be the poll Legend's referring to.

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locomotive

Oct-03-13 9:04 AM

Veritas, I did read it, then ignored it. This time I told you what I did. There have been countless times I didn't tell you.

As far as a heightened sense of righteousness, perhaps Democrats ought to look in the mirror more rather than less.

"We won--get over it."

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centerfield

Oct-02-13 11:54 PM

so, loco, what do you watch to get your news information? Almost every channel I have gone to including Fox have gone over what Boehnor has proposed. What they don't cover is the 14 times that Senate Dems have requested the budget proposals go to committee since April of 2013. Each time, Boehnor has refused to set up a compromise committee--14 times. But, we also know that the main focus of the Republicans is to stop millions of people from getting health insurance. But, they want to fund little items that might make them look good. They will not fund the entire government without adding defunding proposals. Now, you worry about cancer funding but not about the 30 million people without health insurance? Well, that certainly makes sense. Now, just one little question for you-- Why has Boehnor not let a clean CR proposal come before the house for discussion and an up or down vote? Got any answers?

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Legend

Oct-02-13 10:41 PM

the budget being discussed is way down from where the dems started, The pres. has already given billions in negotiations--to say he will not negotiate now because they also want to cut or gut ACA is bengazi talk--not true.

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Legend

Oct-02-13 9:59 PM

latest poll: vast maj. of voters to not agree with red position or gov. shut down--Pres is representing the people. The people who asked for the ACA. the people who voted for him twice. if you think the world liked B2 better than our Pres. you are believing way too much bengazi talk. Yes he will talk with iran or other countries--there is hope 4 agreement. The t party is r way or the hwy--that is not good faith in negotiations--a basic requirement to make a deal. they were bought and agreed to a fixed agenda--everything cut but defense--destroy ACA--no abortion. they are under threat of the next primary if they bend (negotiate). i forgot--many of them hate the Pres--good thing they are a minority.

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locomotive

Oct-02-13 6:37 PM

"It might even explain why so many poor white people from W Virginia to Alabama to Northern Idaho have never met their father..."

Veritas, if I were paying attention, I'd probably call this a "reverse discrimination" type of post.

But since it's (obviously) your opinion, I've now chosen to ignore it.

willgrr!! Cleanup on aisle 53!!

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Fisher

Oct-02-13 4:42 PM

"Founded on Christian Principles and Freedom".....sort of an oxymoron isn't it. George Washington specifically stated in the Treaty of Tripoli that these United States were not a Christian nation, but a national for all religions.... and "unbiblical behavior we have to tolerate" WTF is that supposed to mean? Considering everyone interprets the bible differently it could mean anything. The bible considers mixing man-made and natural fabrics and abomination, so most folks out there have sinned on that one. I love how conservatives insist on talking about freedom "so long as its Christian (my Christianity and not yours) and is biblically correct". And people have the nerve to speak ill of nations which follow laws based on the Quran (Islamic law). What makes insisiting Christian law is the right law, if we are supposed to be "free". give me a break

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locomotive

Oct-02-13 2:02 PM

I think willgrr's phrase will go nicely right about here, with just a bit of an edit...

"The Democrats, a cancerous malignancy of adults acting childishly, like spoiled brats stamping their feet and screaming for their mama's because they can't have their own way."

Adults try to work things out. Children don't. "We won--get over it."

Look in the mirror, Democrats, before throwing out the charge of childishness in others.

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locomotive

Oct-02-13 2:00 PM

What I've been seeing via mainstream media sources is plenty of "the Republicans will be getting the blame for the shutdown" plus numerous video shots of Pres. Obama's sound bytes for the masses.

Why isn't there much, if any, coverage of what the Republicans are proposing? If journalism means both sides, why isn't the public getting this side? We've received plenty of Democrat "propaganda" even including shots of the "stately" Sen. Harry Reid saying "whacko" about House bills or proposals. I'm just sick of the whole thing.

You betcha. This president was going to get rid of the gridlock in DC. He continues it today with a veto threat of ANY House proposal to fund certain areas of gov't. REAL bipartisanship that. I'm just sick of the whole thing.

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centerfield

Oct-01-13 1:17 PM

Rush Limbaugh and Ted Cruz, the leaders of the right wing party. After all, there is no Republican party anymore. Just hateful right wingers.

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centerfield

Oct-01-13 1:16 PM

BDGI's blogs show how truly out of touch the right really is on the issues. This disagreement is between the members of congress and does not include the President. The bills come from the congress and are signed by the President. Two "separate" parts of our government setup. But, the hatred and resentment towards the President certainly come rolling out from the right. The far right wingers have taken over the Republican party and are in the process of destroying it. The Republican attempts to destroy meals on wheels, the snap program, food stamps, and other programs that help the needy show their complete disregard for the welfare of our country. Their fake reasoning to attempt to overturn a "law" by adding measures to the C.R. on government funding is disgusting and again shows their complete disregard for the many people who are furloughed by their actions. This is the Republican albatross and they will wear it.

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Worldview

Oct-01-13 7:46 AM

"Steven Moen, Minot A prophetic quote from Nikita Khrushchev, "

Steven Moen - Do you know anything about prophecy? Are you really a Christian?

MDN - What the heck are you doing!!!!!!

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Worldview

Oct-01-13 7:37 AM

"the state tells us how we must act, how we must live, what type of car seats we must have for our children, what kind of mileage our cars must make, what kind of light bulbs we must use, what kind of unbiblical behaviors we must accept and the list goes on and on."

Steven Moen - Thanks for your transparency. You have relegated Christianity with your pontification, to a quote from Nikita Khrushchev and light Bulbs right up there with the bible and biblical "unbiblical" quotes. WWJD

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muleskinner

Sep-30-13 10:17 PM

As if Obama cares. When will that happen?

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locomotive

Sep-30-13 9:12 PM

realclearpolitics . com/epolls/other/obama_and_democrats_health_care_plan-1130

This site still shows an average 52.0% AGAINST Obamacare and an average 38.6% FOR Obamacare, with 7 different polls used for figuring the averages.

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