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Taking away our rights

September 29, 2013

Steven Barron, Minot My wife and I relocated from Washington State and have been trying to get established in our new community....

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muleskinner

Sep-29-13 11:31 AM

Americans pay taxes to the gov to be taxed some more, increased fees of all kinds at all levels of gov and to top it all off, are spied on constantly.

Not taking away rights, they're gone.

It used to be the state was to serve the people who provided the means for the state to exist, now the people must serve the state.

Not a good thing.

A zone like no other is right.

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Legend

Sep-29-13 11:34 AM

Healthcare costs are one sixth of our economy. From 2011 to 2012 medical costs for those with insurance rose 7.2% and the per family cost of medical care rose to over $20,000. These are real costs and not "predicted" to result from the Affordable Care Act. (numbers are from Aetna web site). Medicare and The ACA are the best and possibly the only bet for reducing healthcare costs in the future. Does your concern about costs include the fast rising cost of living in Minot? $1000 increase in taxes for every home and business. $2000 increase in the costs of other services since the Bakken. Would you prefer the Fed. said and did nothing when we were sold child car seats that were not safe? It is not the Fed or the cost of the Fed that is increasing medical costs--it is hospital mergers and greed.

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disgusted

Sep-29-13 11:55 AM

Legend, you do know that since about 1965 the federal government has set the prices for health care. That is why we are where we are today. Hospitals, doctors, medical supply companies are all scrambling to stay alive under the mandates set forth from DC.

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Legend

Sep-29-13 5:10 PM

Really? Read consumer reports where they say the same appendectomy may cost $3,000 or $30,000, depending on the hospital. They also rate hospital costs. The Fed does set what they will pay on medicare/medicaid--which is a fair and reasonable price. That limited price setting is lowering our cost of medical care. ACA is expected by intelligent specialists to also lower costs when it is completely implemented. Those with the high prices will not have enough customers to stay in business.

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centerfield

Sep-29-13 5:42 PM

"CAUTION You are about to enter a zone unlike no other; where lies and distortions exist and the truth doesn’t matter. Honest debate will be attacked viciously as you proceed down this road filled with land mines." Whistler---- an accurate description of the Republican Party.

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disgusted

Sep-29-13 6:13 PM

Obamacare is a federal program, but what many Americans don't know is that costs will remain different from state to state. In fact, a new report from the Department of Health and Human Services shows some huge differences in premium costs depending on where you live.

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subman

Sep-29-13 8:06 PM

so you don't mind loosing your full time job with benifits so your employeer can get under the limit of employees to not get penalized and you don't mind the IRS having real time access to your banking accounts? Didn't think so.

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freefisher

Sep-29-13 9:05 PM

Whistler: Sounds like you're talking about the comments appearing here.

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Legend

Sep-29-13 11:15 PM

If business costs are a concern, why did you move to western ND? The cost of housing, taxes and services are more than double and going higher. ACA holds the promise of reducing medical costs long term. Any increase in medical cost from ACA can't hold a candle to what we have seen from oil and most all business can't say enough good about it. Why are you only concerned about one cost?

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subman

Sep-30-13 8:37 AM

if Canada has such great health care why do those who can afford it come here for treatment? Answer.. they're on a waiting list for treatment on which they can die before their turn comes up.

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WorriedAmerican

Sep-30-13 10:54 AM

Mr. Baron moved to a "Blue State"!

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Legend

Sep-30-13 7:18 PM

Our medical cost/care is far behind most other developed countries. Shouldn't we have protection the cutthroats in our capitolism who take our money and hide? Should we have to keep a new car that is a lemon, suffer from contaminated food with no protection or pay the bills charged to our stolen credit card numbers? The tea party would "take away those rights".

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locomotive

Sep-30-13 9:44 PM

Legend Sep-30-13 7:18 PM

This post just about earns a Chicken Little aka "the sky is falling" award.

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Legend

Sep-30-13 10:29 PM

You are saying you would put the new lemon car in the junkpile and buy a new one? You would pay the bill when someone stole your number and used your card? Only the very wealthy can toss money like that. Hmm?

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angeR69

Oct-01-13 1:15 AM

"ACA holds the promise of reducing medical costs long term."

And you buy this, with nearly 50 years of evidence to the contrary? How exactly do you think we got to this point?

Medicare. Medicaid. Fifty years of the federal government tinkering with the tax code to incentivize employer-based health coverage, so that we, the end users of health services rarely see any direct cost relationship to the services we use.

You think costs are high now? You ain't seen nothing yet.

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angeR69

Oct-01-13 1:29 AM

"Americans believe that the debt ceiling shouldn't be held hostage by the Republicans in order to fulfill their wish lists that they couldn't win elections to enact."

I love the language. HELD HOSTAGE. It's so... dramatic.

There's going to be a government shutdown. OH MY GOD! How are we going to survive? Hey Willy, did you know the government shuts down every weekend? And yet we survive to see Monday morning. How is this possible?

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angeR69

Oct-01-13 1:37 AM

"The racists (republicans) are only concerned about their own bottom line."

Hey Kolob, it's good to see you haven't given up on demonizing the other side. It takes a lot of courage to consistently display your ignorance. You should be commended.

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JackAaah

Oct-01-13 9:34 AM

I'm just feel glad that Rugby has now officially joined, and is a proud member, of our forword-looking Democrat Party.

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Legend

Oct-01-13 1:47 PM

The standoff today on the budget results from upcoming primary elections. Any tea party member who does not go with the tea party line will be out of any chance in the primaries. They were bought by hoity toity red supporters and are dancing to their sugar daddy drummer. Most important to note in this is not not they are willing to severally damage business and the Fed for their support of the rich idealogy--it is that democrats do not behave this way no matter who paid for their election. For those who say so what nothing happened; yesterday lodging at Yellowstone Park was booked solid and today the park is closed. This is thousands of people with a cancelled reservation and just a small dimple of the bigger picture. This is not the first time the tea party has held the Fed at bay. The President is right to stand up to them and hopefully end their fanatical behavior forever. When Adelson realizes the loss of business from closed national parks near his casinos--he will feel the pain.

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Legend

Oct-01-13 3:50 PM

Will: the number of fed bucks to nd might be higher than many states because we sponser two major AF bases. We also have an aging population--on S.S. and Medicare. A balanced budget is when revenues are greater than spending. the last bb was during bill clintons time. The fastest way to get to a bb is jobs because workers pay fed taxes. i lean left here because i don,t see anything from the right to promote jobs. They do say let business run free of regulation--but it has never worked. the big banks ran a little too free up to 2008. called reaganomics under reagan--it failed. Greenspan, our financial guru believed in it his whole career and after 2008 he retired and said "i was wrong" (about letting the private sector and capitolism run free). absent greed, it would work. T.R. warned about greed.

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locomotive

Oct-01-13 4:31 PM

Legend Oct-01-13 1:47 PM

"Any tea party member who does not go with the tea party line will be out of any chance in the primaries. They were bought by hoity toity red supporters and are dancing to their sugar daddy drummer. Most important to note in this is not not they are willing to severally damage business and the Fed for their support of the rich idealogy--it is that democrats do not behave this way no matter who paid for their election."

Fanciful, but not particularly factual.

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locomotive

Oct-01-13 4:39 PM

"You are saying you would put the new lemon car in the junkpile and buy a new one? You would pay the bill when someone stole your number and used your card?"

Because I disagreed with the notion that the federal gov't is the cure for all ills, now I'm some rich fat cat throwing cars and credit cards around like confetti?

I'll say this one more time....s l o w l y.

It is naive for citizens to believe that their federal gov't can do no ill and has only their best interests at heart. Governments are made up of people, similar to corporations. Human beings are fallible. Some humans are drawn to power. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Follow me on this. If some corporations' actions are deplorable, it's because the PEOPLE making up the corporations did the deplorable actions. And if some government's actions are commendable and/or deplorable, it's the PEOPLE making up the gov't that can be held responsible for both actions.

cont...

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locomotive

Oct-01-13 4:44 PM

Get out of the bubble, Legend, and start talking with some citizens who have NOT had the best of experiences with their federal gov't. Their tales will balance out the sweetness and light you're peddling.

Governments are powered by people who are fallible and subject to ideology, whimsy, the smell of success, even the opportunity to exercise raw power over individuals (Lois Lerner is my choice for this last one, unless I'm proven wrong.)

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Legend

Oct-01-13 5:15 PM

i did not say the fed can cure all ills--just cited where it has intervened in the past to assure fair play. I think all of the tea party is nuts add the calif. and ny reps. I wish our defense dept. were smaller so we could not enter wars at will but only to defend ourselves. if the fed is so bad why are the wealthy getting a taller pile of money every day? during a recession? G.I's. have an old saying--rich people send poor people to war.

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Legend

Oct-01-13 6:21 PM

whistler: i don't want what they have-never have. worked since i was 11. earned enough to take me thru retirement and retired. just released: 73% do not want the fed shutdown for fights over Obamacare. Kleenex for the t party. we will never get middle of the road reds running the show as long as the t party is entertaining. time for cantor and ryan to pack up their marbles and baloney for home. The wisconsin economy from these 2 baby sharks lags behind the nat. average. and the lady wrote dems are out of touch? what cloud does she ride on?

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