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Too much focus on keeping guns

September 22, 2013

Cody Stanley, Grand Forks Once again, tragically, it is the day after another mass shooting, and all the Second Amendment fanatics care about are their guns....

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jefferzbooboo

Sep-22-13 6:13 AM

You're more likely to be killed in an automobile accident, beat to death, or a doctors error than shot. Never mind violent crime rates, including gun homicide, are dropping and have been for a while now. When you talk about murder than bring up the Bible, you need to go back and read your Bible and see how many mass genocides are in there.

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subman

Sep-22-13 8:09 AM

Jesus did speak to this in Luke 22:36 He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. He told his people to be armed to protect themselves.

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muleskinner

Sep-22-13 8:11 AM

Jesus said to sell your cloak and buy sword.

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muleskinner

Sep-22-13 8:18 AM

You beat me to it, sub. Yours was posted at 8:09 and my post was at 8:11. Todays 911. These anti-gun nuts are going bonkers.

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angeR69

Sep-22-13 8:54 PM

"Why are guns banned at the headquarters of the NRA?"

Ok, I'll bite. Must be because they're hypocrites, right? In actuality, it might have a little something to do with the laws in the jurisdiction in which they are headquartered. You wouldn't want them to encourage anybody to break the law, now would you?

The same question's been asked and answered about their choice of venues for their National Conferences year to year. And again it all boils down to gun laws in the jurisdictions where these events are held. Some cities and states are more friendly to allowing armed citizens in public spaces than others.

The NRA allows, if not encourages, legally armed citizens to come in packing when and where it is legal to do so.

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angeR69

Sep-22-13 9:09 PM

"I cannot find fault with Cody Stanley's letter, nicely said."

Woe, big surprise there buddy! Are you sure, Raj.? Because - and I'm telling you this with complete insincerity - I've always regarded you as a huge proponent of the second amendment! As a matter of fact, I had you pegged as one of those fanatics we keep hearing about -you know the kind: the ones capable of reading clear, simple language and attaching clear, simple meaning to it. Oh, yeah. Fanatics!

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angeR69

Sep-22-13 9:11 PM

How'd I do with that one Loco? Did it pass as Sarcasm?

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angeR69

Sep-22-13 9:19 PM

I wonder what Cody's got for us next week. Maybe Jesus will take on "a mother's right to choose".

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MattRothchild

Sep-23-13 9:14 AM

"He who has not a sword should sell his garment so that he might buy one."

-Jesus

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MattRothchild

Sep-23-13 9:16 AM

This is the second time in a month this Cody Stanley clown from Grand Forks has written in to the MDN pretending to know what's in the Bible. He blew it the first time; the fact that the MDN permitted this nonsense as a followup makes me seriously questions the paper's competence.

Oh, and by the way, what happened to the MDN's one letter per month policy? Huh?

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MattRothchild

Sep-23-13 9:26 AM

And all of this without attacking some of the other deficient "theology" contained in this letter...

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MattRothchild

Sep-23-13 10:54 AM

Don't get so haughty in that conclusion about Obama Derangement Syndrome. Your kind was just as disgusting, just as embarrassing, just as intellectually vapid when the same phenomenon was known as Bush Derangement Syndrome.

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MattRothchild

Sep-23-13 11:47 AM

"There was no similar policy toward BushII"

You must not have been paying attention. Don't you remember, even before the Iraq War started, it was a daily litany of why he was the absolute worst president we'd ever had, and on and on and on.

Don't try to give me this garbage about, "No, our criticisms were based on legitimate policy disagreements". Because today's "reds" can say the same thing. Don't even try to pretend to be in any position to claim any particular mote of righteousness on this issue, because it isn't true.

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MattRothchild

Sep-23-13 11:50 AM

"Reds have said more on bengazi than blues said on Iraq and blues had fewer investigations on Iraq."

Seriously? "Team Blue" was on television daily reminding us of each and every military casualty in Iraq, knowing full well that the more of this that happened, the more they could undermine BushII. And it wasn't even just that policy either. It was every. single. thing.

Seriously. You don't remember that?

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MattRothchild

Sep-23-13 11:56 AM

"Ethonol only exists because of the subsidy. The subsidy is gone and ethonol thrives and saves us money on fuel costs every day"

Which subsidies are you talking about? Do you refer to the direct cash payments, which have indeed gone away? Or are you talking about the manufacturing mandates, still imposed by government, that are nowhere near going away and also constitute a form of subsidy?

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locomotive

Sep-23-13 12:32 PM

angeR, your post did qualify famously as sarcasm. There was no doubt in my mind.

:-)

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locomotive

Sep-23-13 12:33 PM

I've enjoyed this discussion tremendously. It was best that I kept out of it.

another :-)

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Curly1

Sep-24-13 9:10 AM

I think Jesus would get help for the mentally ill and not worry so much about someone else's gun.

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subman

Sep-24-13 9:42 AM

the 2nd amendment doesn't mention guns either....it says "arms" Arms are all encompassing, they include swords, only a lefty would conclude since the Bible doesn't mention guns by name they don't exist, Guns weren't invented yet. If someday lasers are the weapons of choice the 2nd amendment will cover them too.

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MattRothchild

Sep-24-13 9:47 AM

A sword was the prime personal weapon of the ancient world. So now in 2013, what would be the equivalent?

But you know, if we want to play the whole nonsensical biblicist nitpicking game, we can do that all day long. There are LOTS of things that are mentioned nowhere in the Bible by name. Despite this, we can arrive at the doctrines related to them anyway.

A few examples: "Trinity", "Hypostatic Union", "Original Sin", "Universal Church"...and then the whole host of sectarian terminology too lengthy to post here in its entirety.

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MattRothchild

Sep-24-13 9:48 AM

Just remember, none of those terms can be found anywhere in the Bible.

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locomotive

Sep-24-13 1:15 PM

"Why didn't locomotive ask him to cite his sources?"

Because, willgrr, you are doing a most fabulous job yourself.

How many times do I have to point out the excellence you have in this matter?

And yes, this is now the third time I've addressed this. Are we there yet?

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MattRothchild

Sep-24-13 2:02 PM

"Starting in 1981, Reagan created the Hate The Government program"

Strange. Because I recall that program being started back around 1776 by people with names like Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Franklin...et al

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disgusted

Sep-24-13 2:23 PM

Today I swung my front door wide open and placed my Remington 30.06 right in the doorway. I left 6 shells beside it, then left it alone and went about my business. While I was gone, the mailman delivered my mail, the neighbor boy across the street mowed the yard, a girl walked her dog down the street, and quite a few cars stopped at the stop sign near the front of our house. After about an hour, I checked on the gun. It was still sitting there, right where I had left it. It hadn't moved itself outside. It certainly hadn't killed anyone, even with the numerous opportunities it had been presented to do so. In fact, it hadn't even loaded itself. Well you can imagine my surprise, with all the media hype about how dangerous guns are and how they kill people. Either the media is wrong or I'm in possession of the laziest gun in the world. Well, I'm off to check on my spoons. I hear they're making people fat.

Original? No. Source? don't have one

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locomotive

Sep-24-13 5:38 PM

willgrr, I'm sorry, but I'm not going to ask for a source to be cited this time. Why? Because I know this is just a well-written opinion.

It was like I was there with your lazy gun, disgusted! Wow!

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