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Too much focus on keeping guns

September 22, 2013

Cody Stanley, Grand Forks Once again, tragically, it is the day after another mass shooting, and all the Second Amendment fanatics care about are their guns....

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jefferzbooboo

Sep-22-13 6:13 AM

You're more likely to be killed in an automobile accident, beat to death, or a doctors error than shot. Never mind violent crime rates, including gun homicide, are dropping and have been for a while now. When you talk about murder than bring up the Bible, you need to go back and read your Bible and see how many mass genocides are in there.

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subman

Sep-22-13 8:09 AM

Jesus did speak to this in Luke 22:36 He said to them, “But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don’t have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. He told his people to be armed to protect themselves.

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muleskinner

Sep-22-13 8:11 AM

Jesus said to sell your cloak and buy sword.

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muleskinner

Sep-22-13 8:18 AM

You beat me to it, sub. Yours was posted at 8:09 and my post was at 8:11. Todays 911. These anti-gun nuts are going bonkers.

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rajiihammr

Sep-22-13 11:07 AM

I cannot find fault with Cody Stanley's letter, nicely said.

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Legend

Sep-22-13 4:32 PM

JBooBoo: Well said. Knives are the problem in England. The numbers of killings prevented by gun defense--by detracting crime cannot be measured--but has to be large. I do not see rampant abuse of gun ownership. I do see rampant speeding, weaving in and out and other dangerous driving every time I drive. I would agree with an easy answer but one does not exist. Shooting sports have been my primary hobby for 50 years. Water sports are more dangerous. The Iraq war was much worse during it's time. Why not work on the easy fixes and leave the right to bear arms alone?

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rajiihammr

Sep-22-13 7:52 PM

Whistler you are living in a paranoid fantasy world of your own making. Wake up.

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angeR69

Sep-22-13 8:54 PM

"Why are guns banned at the headquarters of the NRA?"

Ok, I'll bite. Must be because they're hypocrites, right? In actuality, it might have a little something to do with the laws in the jurisdiction in which they are headquartered. You wouldn't want them to encourage anybody to break the law, now would you?

The same question's been asked and answered about their choice of venues for their National Conferences year to year. And again it all boils down to gun laws in the jurisdictions where these events are held. Some cities and states are more friendly to allowing armed citizens in public spaces than others.

The NRA allows, if not encourages, legally armed citizens to come in packing when and where it is legal to do so.

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angeR69

Sep-22-13 9:09 PM

"I cannot find fault with Cody Stanley's letter, nicely said."

Woe, big surprise there buddy! Are you sure, Raj.? Because - and I'm telling you this with complete insincerity - I've always regarded you as a huge proponent of the second amendment! As a matter of fact, I had you pegged as one of those fanatics we keep hearing about -you know the kind: the ones capable of reading clear, simple language and attaching clear, simple meaning to it. Oh, yeah. Fanatics!

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angeR69

Sep-22-13 9:11 PM

How'd I do with that one Loco? Did it pass as Sarcasm?

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angeR69

Sep-22-13 9:19 PM

I wonder what Cody's got for us next week. Maybe Jesus will take on "a mother's right to choose".

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Legend

Sep-22-13 11:23 PM

We are probably killing more people on the highway and in the oil work in western ND than all the shootings nationwide; while our politicians brag endlessly about the oil business.

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MattRothchild

Sep-23-13 9:14 AM

"He who has not a sword should sell his garment so that he might buy one."

-Jesus

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MattRothchild

Sep-23-13 9:16 AM

This is the second time in a month this Cody Stanley clown from Grand Forks has written in to the MDN pretending to know what's in the Bible. He blew it the first time; the fact that the MDN permitted this nonsense as a followup makes me seriously questions the paper's competence.

Oh, and by the way, what happened to the MDN's one letter per month policy? Huh?

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MattRothchild

Sep-23-13 9:26 AM

And all of this without attacking some of the other deficient "theology" contained in this letter...

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MattRothchild

Sep-23-13 10:54 AM

Don't get so haughty in that conclusion about Obama Derangement Syndrome. Your kind was just as disgusting, just as embarrassing, just as intellectually vapid when the same phenomenon was known as Bush Derangement Syndrome.

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Legend

Sep-23-13 11:36 AM

MattR: This is the second blue pres to be attacked by the right as a policy--every day they are/were in office by the reds. There was no similar policy toward BushII. Bush II earned any criticism by his Iraq war. A waste of lives, money and our reputation in the world. "He is going to take yourguns away". and he has not. Ethonol only exists because of the subsidy. The subsidy is gone and ethonol thrives and saves us money on fuel costs every day. I am well aware of fox (bengazi) talk. Reds have said more on bengazi than blues said on Iraq and blues had fewer investigations on Iraq.

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MattRothchild

Sep-23-13 11:47 AM

"There was no similar policy toward BushII"

You must not have been paying attention. Don't you remember, even before the Iraq War started, it was a daily litany of why he was the absolute worst president we'd ever had, and on and on and on.

Don't try to give me this garbage about, "No, our criticisms were based on legitimate policy disagreements". Because today's "reds" can say the same thing. Don't even try to pretend to be in any position to claim any particular mote of righteousness on this issue, because it isn't true.

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MattRothchild

Sep-23-13 11:50 AM

"Reds have said more on bengazi than blues said on Iraq and blues had fewer investigations on Iraq."

Seriously? "Team Blue" was on television daily reminding us of each and every military casualty in Iraq, knowing full well that the more of this that happened, the more they could undermine BushII. And it wasn't even just that policy either. It was every. single. thing.

Seriously. You don't remember that?

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MattRothchild

Sep-23-13 11:56 AM

"Ethonol only exists because of the subsidy. The subsidy is gone and ethonol thrives and saves us money on fuel costs every day"

Which subsidies are you talking about? Do you refer to the direct cash payments, which have indeed gone away? Or are you talking about the manufacturing mandates, still imposed by government, that are nowhere near going away and also constitute a form of subsidy?

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locomotive

Sep-23-13 12:32 PM

angeR, your post did qualify famously as sarcasm. There was no doubt in my mind.

:-)

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locomotive

Sep-23-13 12:33 PM

I've enjoyed this discussion tremendously. It was best that I kept out of it.

another :-)

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Legend

Sep-23-13 10:29 PM

In the big picture we still have our guns. That means the fanatics on the left are not controlling the party. The fanatics on the right, however, have the party in much turmoil. Talk of no debt ceiling approval and defund Obamacare has raised much concern. Those 2 moves would damage our credit and economy. They show no true concern for our economy. To try their failed economic policies again and expect a different result is insanity--by definition. Bush II said "I will be 4 this war if it is only Laura and I who are 4 this war". i.e. I don't care what anyone else thinks.

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Curly1

Sep-24-13 9:10 AM

I think Jesus would get help for the mentally ill and not worry so much about someone else's gun.

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subman

Sep-24-13 9:42 AM

the 2nd amendment doesn't mention guns either....it says "arms" Arms are all encompassing, they include swords, only a lefty would conclude since the Bible doesn't mention guns by name they don't exist, Guns weren't invented yet. If someday lasers are the weapons of choice the 2nd amendment will cover them too.

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