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Too much focus on keeping guns

September 22, 2013

Cody Stanley, Grand Forks Once again, tragically, it is the day after another mass shooting, and all the Second Amendment fanatics care about are their guns....

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locomotive

Sep-30-13 9:31 PM

"The GOP, a cancerous malignancy of adults acting childishly, like spoiled brats stamping their feet and screaming for their mama's because they can't have their own way."

Can't you just feel the bipartisanship?

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Legend

Sep-28-13 1:12 PM

Whistler: I defined rich as those who can afford to hire a bodyguard. Ammo prices went up because of hipe about Obama not from Obama. If the price of gas doesn't bother you i would guess you voted for Romney. I have probably walked more already than most will in a lifetime. Gun owners should be objective, fair, respectable; to support the right--not mouthy like you.

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locomotive

Sep-28-13 4:27 AM

"Loco: you compared health premiums paid to national healthcare spending. Wait until the people paying ridiculously high rates buy from the group exchange rates beginning 01 Oct. It will result in many with more bucks in their pocket for guns ammo and gas."

I heard a number of personal stories today from customers of BC/BS who got a letter in the mail stating how their premiums would be going UP come Jan. 1st. Average increase: $350 a month. That's a lot of gas in the tank, or a bunch of shells, or part of a new gun.

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Legend

Sep-27-13 9:29 PM

BDNGI: The tea party has damaged the reds just as the hard left holds the middle back (from winning). Iraq hurt the reds so much that we elected a black pres--an extremely long shot to many including expert political analysts. It is not politically smart to bad mouth our Pres. every day first because he did not bring our world to an end as some predicted and second because he won the majority vote. Reds are not winning anything because their endless threats about our Pres. are not true. Personally i would have voted for Bush II instead of Romney. He may only represent 1% of the voters--who paid for his campaign. Way to hoity toity (Krauthammer) for me. The reds will fly back as soon as they stifle Bachmann, Palin, Paul, Cantor, Santorum and all their kind.

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Legend

Sep-27-13 9:10 PM

Whistler: since i was 14 it took guns ammo and gas to hunt or shoot. Do you just rock the hammer in the basement or does someone else buy your gas? It is a very significant expense in the hunting game today. The high price of gas limits hunting/shooting for those of us who have lived on a budget.

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Legend

Sep-27-13 1:29 PM

Loco: you compared health premiums paid to national healthcare spending. Wait until the people paying ridiculously high rates buy from the group exchange rates beginning 01 Oct. It will result in many with more bucks in their pocket for guns ammo and gas.

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Legend

Sep-27-13 1:20 PM

WG: The comparison of Bengazi and Irag will probably be in political science books as an example of extreme political news twist. To concentrate on Bengazi all this time and ignore the lies of Iraq is disrespect for our military. The future of winners in politics has to be like Heidi Heitkamp--pro-gun and middle of the road. We need reds in the middle. Minnesota has recovered all it's job loss from 08. Vehicle sales are at near record levels. ND has more jobs than applicants--proof where is opportunity employers are not holding back because of ACA. Warren Buffet said "If I ask you if you want in on a hot deal, you are not going to ask how high the taxes are".

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locomotive

Sep-27-13 12:33 PM

Interesting perdickshun there, billgitmo.

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locomotive

Sep-27-13 10:07 AM

"refering to our President as Ovomit is okay with you?"

billgitmo, I will go on record as saying it's NOT okay to refer to a sitting president in this manner.

I've always tried to used Pres. Obama's proper title. Others will do as they please, even as it concerns former presidents.

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Legend

Sep-26-13 11:05 PM

Let me correct my estimate of people who have employer subsidized health ins. The rationale of Cornyn and Rand Paul is everyone should have to buy health ins. from the exchanges. To the 2 million fed workers/families add 18 million (est) private sector workers who would lose their employer provided health ins. benefit. This is the type of behavior that creates radical blues--those who would vote against the right to bear arms. I think Cornyn and Rand Paul just threw their next election.

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Legend

Sep-26-13 10:21 PM

Currently some significant republicans are trying to take lifetime healthcare benefits away from federal workers and make them buy from ACA exchanges. Fed workers buy their ins. at a group rate and pay about half of the premium cost. If they succeed, Fed workers would lose about $500 per month for their lifetime. This is a benefit fed workers get in part because their pay is lower than the private sector. I estimate 2 million will switch and vote democrat if they succeed. Google fed workers and Obamacare. Reds are stronger on the gun right but this behavior could turn some against everything they stand for including gun rights.

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locomotive

Sep-26-13 9:44 PM

billgitmo, you've made the list again of "less than friendly liberals" for your tea-something comment.

It's vulgar, OK?

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locomotive

Sep-26-13 9:42 PM

More about that impassioned speech by the president about ACA...

businessinsider . com 9-26-13

"Right In The Middle Of Obama's Fiery Speech On Obamacare, His Administration Delayed Another Part Of Obamacare"

"...it came just as Obama was delivering one of his most impassioned speeches on the subject and the situation, accusing Republicans of "blackmail." During certain points of his speech in Largo, Md., he seemed to genuinely enjoy ridiculing Republicans."

That last sentence? What else is new?

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locomotive

Sep-26-13 9:11 PM

money morning . com 5-3-13 (before delaying the employer mandate)

"Hiring temporary workers is one way to be careful" in an uncertain business environment, John Challenger, chief executive officer of Chicago based employment consulting firm Challenger Gray & Christmas Inc., told Bloomberg.

"President Obama's healthcare act appears to be the main roadblock to jobs creation."

Yes, businesses still look like they're hesitant about hiring full-time workers.

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locomotive

Sep-26-13 9:09 PM

Forbes 9-23-13

"(Obama) solemnly pledged on June 5, 2008: “In an Obama administration, we’ll lower premiums by up to $2,500 for a typical family per year….. We’ll do it by the end of my first term as President of the United States.”

"Between 2014 and 2022, the increase in national health spending (which the Medicare actuaries specifically attribute to the law) amounts to $7,450 per family of 4."

Yes, it is going to be more expensive.

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locomotive

Sep-26-13 8:47 PM

"And don't show up on my door step because I will not take you in.."

I have no plans on setting one foot in the state of West Virginia.

:-)

Great repartee, willgrr.

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MattRothchild

Sep-26-13 12:43 PM

The situation you describe is one of those "I hope it doesn't happen, but I fear it will" things.

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MattRothchild

Sep-26-13 11:41 AM

Well, if something is a "right", then you have it by virtue of your existance, not because "the state" gave it to you.

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Legend

Sep-26-13 11:24 AM

On the subject of the state v. religion Jesus said "give to Caesar what is Caesars and to me what is mine". Add one Commandment--Thou shalt no kill. We have the gun right from the state and it does not conflict with Christianity until it is abused by killing the innocent. Nets took fish for the kill as slingshots and sharp tools took game for the kill. Jesus ate both fish and game and everything he did was a lesson for us. Take the guns and the weapon of choice would become the IED. We should dred that.

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Legend

Sep-26-13 11:05 AM

RR: Please explain. The evidence showed Martin did not go to a safe place, but chose to stop and fight--and he was not beat up. One jurer said she tried as hard as she could (much bias)to find error on Zimm. but could not. Please explain how he got away with it. Martin would have been much easier to convict of wrong doing from the evidence.

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locomotive

Sep-26-13 10:49 AM

Sep-26-13 9:34 AM

Couldn't agree more, Matt.

That years-old book with its fine reputation is useful for just about anything.

Sarcasm and Truth all rolled into one

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locomotive

Sep-26-13 10:46 AM

"Look at the endless bashing of Bill Clinton--the most popular man in the world."

I have to borrow from willgrr's store of eloquence for this...

"I think I just threw up a little in my mouth after I read this"

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MattRothchild

Sep-26-13 9:34 AM

But while we're at it, you know what other things people claim the Bible supports but doesn't appear anywhere in its pages?

"Social justice", "Affordable housing", "Universal health care"

I mean, if we want to play these games, then let' play these games.

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MattRothchild

Sep-26-13 9:32 AM

"swords back then equate to firearms in the present."

Well, the immutable fact remains that both occupy equivalent positions and roles in their respective societies.

When discussing the Constitution, you don't even need to use the Bible to defend or understand it. Rather, a proper understanding of Negative Rights is more than enough to do these things.

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Legend

Sep-26-13 12:22 AM

You said Germany and now ask me where? What ver you smokin un between?

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