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Too much focus on keeping guns

September 22, 2013

Cody Stanley, Grand Forks Once again, tragically, it is the day after another mass shooting, and all the Second Amendment fanatics care about are their guns....

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locomotive

Sep-30-13 9:31 PM

"The GOP, a cancerous malignancy of adults acting childishly, like spoiled brats stamping their feet and screaming for their mama's because they can't have their own way."

Can't you just feel the bipartisanship?

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locomotive

Sep-28-13 4:27 AM

"Loco: you compared health premiums paid to national healthcare spending. Wait until the people paying ridiculously high rates buy from the group exchange rates beginning 01 Oct. It will result in many with more bucks in their pocket for guns ammo and gas."

I heard a number of personal stories today from customers of BC/BS who got a letter in the mail stating how their premiums would be going UP come Jan. 1st. Average increase: $350 a month. That's a lot of gas in the tank, or a bunch of shells, or part of a new gun.

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locomotive

Sep-27-13 12:33 PM

Interesting perdickshun there, billgitmo.

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locomotive

Sep-27-13 10:07 AM

"refering to our President as Ovomit is okay with you?"

billgitmo, I will go on record as saying it's NOT okay to refer to a sitting president in this manner.

I've always tried to used Pres. Obama's proper title. Others will do as they please, even as it concerns former presidents.

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locomotive

Sep-26-13 9:44 PM

billgitmo, you've made the list again of "less than friendly liberals" for your tea-something comment.

It's vulgar, OK?

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locomotive

Sep-26-13 9:42 PM

More about that impassioned speech by the president about ACA...

businessinsider . com 9-26-13

"Right In The Middle Of Obama's Fiery Speech On Obamacare, His Administration Delayed Another Part Of Obamacare"

"...it came just as Obama was delivering one of his most impassioned speeches on the subject and the situation, accusing Republicans of "blackmail." During certain points of his speech in Largo, Md., he seemed to genuinely enjoy ridiculing Republicans."

That last sentence? What else is new?

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locomotive

Sep-26-13 9:11 PM

money morning . com 5-3-13 (before delaying the employer mandate)

"Hiring temporary workers is one way to be careful" in an uncertain business environment, John Challenger, chief executive officer of Chicago based employment consulting firm Challenger Gray & Christmas Inc., told Bloomberg.

"President Obama's healthcare act appears to be the main roadblock to jobs creation."

Yes, businesses still look like they're hesitant about hiring full-time workers.

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locomotive

Sep-26-13 9:09 PM

Forbes 9-23-13

"(Obama) solemnly pledged on June 5, 2008: “In an Obama administration, we’ll lower premiums by up to $2,500 for a typical family per year….. We’ll do it by the end of my first term as President of the United States.”

"Between 2014 and 2022, the increase in national health spending (which the Medicare actuaries specifically attribute to the law) amounts to $7,450 per family of 4."

Yes, it is going to be more expensive.

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locomotive

Sep-26-13 8:47 PM

"And don't show up on my door step because I will not take you in.."

I have no plans on setting one foot in the state of West Virginia.

:-)

Great repartee, willgrr.

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MattRothchild

Sep-26-13 12:43 PM

The situation you describe is one of those "I hope it doesn't happen, but I fear it will" things.

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MattRothchild

Sep-26-13 11:41 AM

Well, if something is a "right", then you have it by virtue of your existance, not because "the state" gave it to you.

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locomotive

Sep-26-13 10:49 AM

Sep-26-13 9:34 AM

Couldn't agree more, Matt.

That years-old book with its fine reputation is useful for just about anything.

Sarcasm and Truth all rolled into one

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locomotive

Sep-26-13 10:46 AM

"Look at the endless bashing of Bill Clinton--the most popular man in the world."

I have to borrow from willgrr's store of eloquence for this...

"I think I just threw up a little in my mouth after I read this"

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MattRothchild

Sep-26-13 9:34 AM

But while we're at it, you know what other things people claim the Bible supports but doesn't appear anywhere in its pages?

"Social justice", "Affordable housing", "Universal health care"

I mean, if we want to play these games, then let' play these games.

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MattRothchild

Sep-26-13 9:32 AM

"swords back then equate to firearms in the present."

Well, the immutable fact remains that both occupy equivalent positions and roles in their respective societies.

When discussing the Constitution, you don't even need to use the Bible to defend or understand it. Rather, a proper understanding of Negative Rights is more than enough to do these things.

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MattRothchild

Sep-25-13 11:40 AM

And since we're playing that game, "firearms" appears nowhere in the Second Amendment, "Second Amendment" appears nowhere in the Bible. And forget about all that stuff about historical context that I earlier shared...irrelevant, right?

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MattRothchild

Sep-25-13 11:38 AM

"The bible does not support the Second Amendment. Swords are NOT firearms."

So I take it that it follows then that the pen is NOT mightier than the firearm...

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locomotive

Sep-25-13 10:25 AM

Legend: "I believe gun ownership does more good than harm in our society."

I can agree with this statement, on its own merit.

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locomotive

Sep-25-13 9:41 AM

Agreed with much of your post, Legend.

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locomotive

Sep-25-13 9:40 AM

I've only got one boyfriend, my husband.

And I say one is plenty...

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locomotive

Sep-24-13 10:16 PM

Stuck in election land, willgrr?

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locomotive

Sep-24-13 5:45 PM

Some American "gnats" are Democrats or Republicans in their philosophies and votes. Some American "gnats" are conservative, while some American "gnats" are liberal.

This whole bunch of "insignificant gnats" makes up the United States of America.

Too bad that in some people's eyes, some gnats are more insignificant than others.

Quality control notice: this piece was borrowed from "Animal Farm" and then heavily modified for the poster's purposes.

Just So You Know

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locomotive

Sep-24-13 5:38 PM

willgrr, I'm sorry, but I'm not going to ask for a source to be cited this time. Why? Because I know this is just a well-written opinion.

It was like I was there with your lazy gun, disgusted! Wow!

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disgusted

Sep-24-13 2:23 PM

Today I swung my front door wide open and placed my Remington 30.06 right in the doorway. I left 6 shells beside it, then left it alone and went about my business. While I was gone, the mailman delivered my mail, the neighbor boy across the street mowed the yard, a girl walked her dog down the street, and quite a few cars stopped at the stop sign near the front of our house. After about an hour, I checked on the gun. It was still sitting there, right where I had left it. It hadn't moved itself outside. It certainly hadn't killed anyone, even with the numerous opportunities it had been presented to do so. In fact, it hadn't even loaded itself. Well you can imagine my surprise, with all the media hype about how dangerous guns are and how they kill people. Either the media is wrong or I'm in possession of the laziest gun in the world. Well, I'm off to check on my spoons. I hear they're making people fat.

Original? No. Source? don't have one

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MattRothchild

Sep-24-13 2:02 PM

"Starting in 1981, Reagan created the Hate The Government program"

Strange. Because I recall that program being started back around 1776 by people with names like Washington, Adams, Jefferson, Franklin...et al

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