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House votes to derail Obamacare, fund government

September 20, 2013

WASHINGTON (AP) — The GOP-controlled House voted Friday to cripple President Barack Obama's health care law as part of a risky ploy that threatens a partial shutdown of the government in a week and ......

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locomotive

Sep-23-13 4:44 PM

"Funny- If Romney was President, Republicans would be 100% in favor of the ACA since it was basically Romney's plan."

Not only not funny, but patently untrue. How does he do it?

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Missy1

Sep-22-13 11:23 AM

willgarr, we got it. You love this insurance. Glad you will be signing up. I will NOT sign up. I have my own insurance. You don't need me to join Obama care. He promised he will take care of you, quit whining about it.

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locomotive

Sep-21-13 7:17 PM

One more...

"Critics of IPAB have charged that the board's cost-cutting mandate will inevitably bring about a reduction in care, despite the anti-rationing language in the bill. Congressman Phil Roe from Tennessee, a medical doctor, warned that IPAB will ration care through payment policy. American Medical News charged that the bill gives IPAB "unprecedented, dangerous authority to cut Medicare pay rates and strangle access to care." IPAB has frequently been denounced by its critics as a death panel."

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locomotive

Sep-21-13 7:03 PM

In laymen's terms, IPAB's recommendations to Congress about reducing Medicare costs MUST be implemented unless Congress votes down the recommendations by a super majority.

So more power is given to the president who will appoint the 15-member panel, and power is given to the panel members, who are unelected and unaccountable to constituents.

Reining in Medicare costs is a good idea, but I don't think this was a good way to get it accomplished. We needed more government?

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locomotive

Sep-21-13 6:58 PM

"Henry J. Aaron, a health care expert at the Brookings Institution, says that many observers see that some in Congress are "in thrall to campaign contributors and producers and suppliers of medical services" and most are not well enough informed to wisely use Medicare's buying power to reform health care.

"The idea behind the IPAB was to take power away from Congress (and special interests) in order to give it to those knowledgeable in health care policy..."

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locomotive

Sep-21-13 6:57 PM

"(Independent Payment Advisory Board or) IPAB was created as a strengthened version of the Medicare Payment Advisory Commission (MedPAC), a body with no regulatory power that solely advises Congress, but can not enact regulations in and of itself.

"Since 1997, MedPAC had recommended cuts totaling "hundreds of billions of dollars" to Medicare that were ignored by Congress. Also, Congress has pressured Medicare administrators to cover "ineffective or needlessly costly methods of care", while Medicare's founding legislation says "Nothing in this title shall be construed to authorize any Federal officer or employee to exercise any supervision or control over the practice of medicine"...."

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locomotive

Sep-21-13 6:56 PM

Concerning "death panels"...

"The Independent Payment Advisory Board, or IPAB, is a fifteen-member United States Government agency created in 2010 by sections 3403 and 10320 of the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act which has the explicit task of achieving specified savings in Medicare without affecting coverage or quality.

"Under previous and current law, changes to Medicare payment rates and program rules are recommended by MedPAC but require an act of Congress to take effect. The new system grants IPAB the authority to make changes to the Medicare program with the Congress being given the power to overrule the agency's decisions through supermajority vote."

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locomotive

Sep-21-13 6:40 PM

willgrr, the House voted to fund government and to defund Obamacare. Simple.

Now the Senate and even the President will have to agree or disagree with funding the gov't and defunding Obamacare.

But Sen. Reid says it's "dead...dead" instead of allowing the House's bill to the floor.

Boy, that guy has a lot of power. Much more than all the House members combined, huh?

Call your Senators, people.

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Missy1

Sep-21-13 11:36 AM

Yes bill garr I can. Now back to miss information. Chicago Times 9-20-13 at 6.54 pm, Employers shifting cost to Avoid Obamacare Cadillac tax. Under the law plan that cost more than 10200.00 for individuals and more than 27,500.00 for families will face a 40 tax on the amount over the threshold. Tax doesn't start until 2018. I think you should start checking your facts.

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Missy1

Sep-21-13 10:35 AM

Willgarr, apparently you don't pay for your insurance. This will babysit you still. I pay for my own insurance and believe me, I am not miss informed. You want more people on this plan to pay for YOUR insurance. I am already paying, so I am going to get the BEST insurance I can get for ME.

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Missy1

Sep-20-13 11:54 PM

Since I actually have a choice, I choose to miss out, but thanks for the option.

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Missy1

Sep-20-13 10:47 PM

I believe that is called "extortion". Obama's favorite word.

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Missy1

Sep-20-13 10:26 PM

This law of the land was shoved down our throats, behind doors. By Democrats. I pay for my insurance, now I have to pay 40% tax on that insurance? To punish me for not going on the exchange. The republicans were trying to allow us who pay for our insurance, get to write it off. Because of course, Obama has done it for favors that was called to get him elected. 2nd time.

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WorriedAmerican

Sep-20-13 10:06 PM

It is time to throw these obstructionists out of the House! It is time for the Legislative branch to start passing a budget and pay its bills and do its job as they were elected to do! The HCA is the law of the land and it can be modified if these dunderheads would just focus on running the gov't and not on repeating the same defeated measures over and over again! How many is enough 100 times, 200 times?

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locomotive

Sep-20-13 4:36 PM

This is a bold move to put Democrats on record as those in favor of gov't shutdown and in favor of Obamacare with all its foibles.

Pres. Obama today said that this move is "about me" and not "you" meaning his audience at the time.

Since it was only Democrats that passed Obamacare, they can go on record in their continued support of this increasingly unpopular law, while not funding the gov't at the same time.

Political hardball? Nice move...

P.S. Call your Senators and let them know where you stand on their upcoming vote. In ND, it's Heitkamp and Hoeven.

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