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September 10, 2013

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locomotive

Sep-14-13 7:45 PM

angeR, 2009? Really? Way back then?

How many gigabytes memory do you think we all have?

:-)

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locomotive

Sep-14-13 7:43 PM

"I offer up "Mein Kampf" as a Republican blue print."

willgrr, you are predictable as the sun rising in the east.

Yes, Daily Kos is an extreme leftwing site. The article referenced was an editorial. I thought it was fitting for your GOP "obstructionist" claim.

However, I do think angeR had a valid point. There's nobody that can do "obstruction" like extreme left-wing Democrats, as the DK editorial very clearly opined.

10 years ago? Really? Yeah, George Bush was president then, wasn't he, and Democrat obstruction was the name of the game after his re-election. I thought for sure libs would've remembered that.

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angeR69

Sep-14-13 7:38 PM

continued...

"Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future. His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population...." - a subsection of the press release from the Norwegian Nobel Committee back in 2009.

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angeR69

Sep-14-13 7:34 PM

A wonderful quote from a press release a few years back...

"... Obama has as President created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play. Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving even the most difficult international conflicts. The vision of a world free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms control negotiations. Thanks to Obama's initiative, the USA is now playing a more constructive role in meeting the great climatic challenges the world is confronting. Democracy and human rights are to be strengthened."

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angeR69

Sep-14-13 7:30 PM

Anyway, back to Syria...

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angeR69

Sep-14-13 7:30 PM

"and you think GOP obstruction has helped?"

Nope. It would if they were better at it. But the GOP in the House today is about as useful for obstructing as a gas pedal is for braking.

All it takes is a threat of shutting down the government, and John Boehner cries uncle.

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locomotive

Sep-14-13 4:13 PM

More from Daily Kos 12-21-2004...

"We need to make the GOP radioactive. Their incompetence is providing the ammunition. It is our job to wield it. Remember, they control everything. We don't need to be bipartisan. We don't need to work with them for them to pass their agenda. So we offer up clear alternatives to everything they propose. We have to be aggressive. "We have nothing to lose. Being in the minority is being in the minority. Yet we have much to gain."

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locomotive

Sep-14-13 4:12 PM

As if, willgrr. That word "obstruction" had no bearing at all before 2008, did it?

Daily Kos 12-21-2004

"The Democrats need to offer an alternative agenda over the next four years. It won't be enacted, so they can shoot for the moon. The h-e-l-l with good policy, make proposals that sound great. The GOP used flag burning and gay marriage to rally their side. We can find equivalents. Don't worry about them becoming law, because they won't. Worry about branding the party and placing every bit of bad news (and there will be plenty) squarely at the feet of the party that controls all levers of government..."

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locomotive

Sep-14-13 3:12 PM

Then why aren't people happier with this administration, willgrr? Has the unemployment rate changed much recently? Why aren't businesses hiring full-timers instead of part-timers? Aren't people still signing up for SNAP and unemployment benefits?

I'd like to believe some good news concerning the economy, but I haven't seen much out there. Perhaps there's signs of a recovery, but that recovery has been slow, not robust. And it's been five years...

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angeR69

Sep-13-13 11:36 PM

Overheard from the Secret Service today:

"Relax, Mr. President. Nobody's ever been stripped of a Nobel Peace Prize. No Mr. President, we don't need to stash it at Ft. Knox. Now finish your cheeseburger before the first lady sees you."

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locomotive

Sep-13-13 3:46 PM

billgitmo, since I'm a woman, the term "Bash Brothers" wouldn't really apply to this part of a team.

Try again...

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angeR69

Sep-12-13 10:48 PM

Loco, I second that revulsion.

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locomotive

Sep-12-13 9:52 PM

OK

Where are the grownups?

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locomotive

Sep-12-13 4:46 PM

angeR: "Funny stuff, and it's not even from any of us wingers."

So I went to the yewtoob address angeR posted. "Help Kickstart WWIII" is the title. Yes, it was funny.

Warning: true administration apologists will go apoplectic if they view this one. Don't say I didn't warn you...

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locomotive

Sep-12-13 11:45 AM

Putin seems to be handling the Syrian issue without Pres. Obama's input or "unbelievably small" strikes.

Convenient. For Putin.

From DailyBeast 9-11-13

"If a Russian proposal to pressure Bashar al-Assad into declaring and relinquishing his chemical weapons stockpile moves forward, the United States will be in the strange position of relying on one of Syria's chief weapons suppliers to disarm a regime the president has accused of gassing its own people."

Do Pres. Obama's supporters approve of this move?

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angeR69

Sep-12-13 1:04 AM

Funny stuff, and it's not even from any of us wingers.

Triple W dot ewetube dot com /watch?v=z-sdO6pwVHQ

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WorriedAmerican

Sep-11-13 11:21 AM

BDGI do some research! The chemicals have to mixed before they can be used! They can be taken out by bombing them before they are properly mixed!

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Missy1

Sep-10-13 9:40 PM

September 11 tomorrow. Who is looking out for our country? Obama?

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Missy1

Sep-10-13 9:34 PM

Just listened to Obama, he did not convince me. He has been all over the map. "Trust", I don't think so.

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muleskinner

Sep-10-13 7:38 PM

After this evening's demonizing of the Syrian regime, it is going to be war and more war, so get used to it. It must be great to be a warmongering preznit with a Nobel Peace Prize.

He can graduate from drones to cruise missiles, so it's a done deal.

You do know that Assad's popularity in Syria is greater than Obomba's in murka, dontcha?

However, since murka is in the business of regime change, murkans will roll over and die for Obama's warmongering agenda.

War is Peace

In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act. - George Orwell

It is going to be war and it might come right here. Can't wait for it all to happen.

Syrian civilians who are sarin gassed count more than murkans.

You're expendable. Plenty of murkans can die and nobody will care anymore.

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muleskinner

Sep-10-13 1:25 PM

There is evidence that the 'Free Syrian Army' is burning churches and killing Christians, beheading them, even.

It is war and the US gov wants to 'help' the 'Free Syrian Army'. Read: the neocons want Syria and then go to Iran for more war. Christians don't count, just gassed Syrian children.

The people of America need the US gov like they need another hole in their heads.

The US gov is grasping at straws.

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WorriedAmerican

Sep-10-13 1:07 PM

In Syria we do have evidence that 1. WMD's existed. 2. WMD's were used on his own people innocent women & children. 3. Several warnings were made to the regime NOT to use them and were ignored! 4. International Laws were broken due to the use of this type of warfare. In Iraq we invaded a country with over 100,000 troops on false information that no one tried to verify! The ones that tried to tell the WH were victimized and call anti-Americans! No WMDs were ever found and that region is more chaotic than it has ever been and the Iraqis that have helped us are being slaughtered!

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centerfield

Sep-10-13 11:56 AM

It is too bad that you did not have the same thoughts when the Iraq invasion was promoted, whistler. Or was that because it was a Republican who was speaking?

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centerfield

Sep-10-13 11:54 AM

It seems that the Republicans (some of them) want to perpetuate or manufacture any type of controversy and Benghazi is one of them. That, along with the IRS investigating organizations that are violating the law are shams that the average person who wants to believe that type of trash will accept. There is a reason why Mr. Issa has basically dropped both issues. He has found that all his charges have been rebutted. The only ones who continue this diatribe are those who do little research or rely on slanted sources. I don't believe that anyone can call the entry into Iraq patriotic! If anything, the attack on Iraq was deliberate and an invasion of a sovereign nation. It was based on falsehoods and lies. It does not equate to the current crisis.

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locomotive

Sep-10-13 10:47 AM

If it was patriotic to be cautionary before going into Iraq under Pres. Bush, it's patriotic to be cautionary now before going into Syria under Pres. Obama.

I can state that firmly, all politics aside.

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