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About those fetus dolls

August 25, 2013

Mary Graner, Minot I write in regards to the letter of Aug. 18 in The Minot Daily News by Cody Stanley. Children love little dolls....

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Legend

Aug-31-13 1:47 PM

Romney would have made the best president ever--for China and the Caman Islands. The only thing worse than welfare for the people is corporate welfare. It sickens me to see how so many of our st ate and fed reps dance giddily about our oil business. Read the Aug 22/23 issue of the McClean County Independent on how oil is fast and loose with spills/leaks; and the pending doom of a major spill into Lake Sak. We are no. 1 in the country for workplace fatalities. Do you hear any outcry from reds? They hate OSHA and abortion--that is diabolical.

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Legend

Aug-30-13 2:45 PM

Whistler: Before you analyze me further read the words "her reasons to get an abortion are minimized". I despise the thought of abortion but it will happen legal or not. Our society should do whatever it can to minimize the reasons to chose abortion. Reds disagree with that part.

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Legend

Aug-30-13 2:45 PM

Whistler: Before you analyze me further read the words "her reasons to get an abortion are minimized". I despise the thought of abortion but it will happen legal or not. Our society should do whatever it can to minimize the reasons to chose abortion. Reds disagree with that part.

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Legend

Aug-30-13 10:27 AM

The issue is abortion. If the potential mother has the opportunity to earn a living and is treated by society with the respect everyone of Christian behavior deserves; her reasons for abortion are minimized. You sound like Rick Santorum or even Rush. I do not want to return to the ways of old Europe where gov't. and the rich had absolute control and God was diminished or removed from life.

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locomotive

Aug-30-13 9:21 AM

"The reason Mitt Romney talked about the Chinese women living overcrowded in their factory is because he and those listening love the thought."

This is idle, liberal speculation.

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Legend

Aug-29-13 11:14 PM

Whistler: If you do not think reds own the anti-abortion issue at election time you are in denial. How many more years do you think the spending power of workers can remain stagnant without dire consequences? The Fed did pass labor laws to attempt to stop abuse of workers. The reason Mitt Romney talked about the Chinese women living overcrowded in their factory is because he and those listening love the thought. It is unAmerican to think that way. It is also unAmerican to hide money overseas to evade U.S. taxes. Reds also own the opposition to minimum wages. I was raised by parents and religion to never look down on anyone else. If i couldn't pay a reasonable wage to others who help me make money--i would get a job. I have been worker, boss and business owner.

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Legend

Aug-29-13 7:18 PM

Whistler: Isn't it ironic that the party of less Gov't. wants to prohibit abortion? This country was founded in a big part by the desire for a fair return for a fair days work. Irish, Scots, Germans, Russians and more were mistreated in their own countries. Not long after business began here there were cases of extreme worker abuse. My own great grand father was just off Ellis Island and kidnapped into an east coast work camp for days until a Catholic Priest rescued him at the request of my great grandmother. Only the gov't. had the will and the means to stop worker abuse. Nationwide we hear 30 to 150 people apply for one job. Here we see people from all over the country willing to sleep in their vehicle to have a job. They don't seem reliant on Govt. to me. Yes there are many too lazy to work but i will withold judgement until everyone who wants to work has a job.

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TheDiogenist

Aug-29-13 3:08 PM

What a shocking twist of intent this letter makes. The point of the replicas is only to shock and upset children in order to make a political statement, not to entertain them.

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Legend

Aug-29-13 2:57 PM

Loco: You ignored the basic statement and addressed union problems. Labor did not determine the quality level of our vehicles. Read consumer reports. about 1969 foreign makers were shooting for zero defects with good economy. Honda Civic, Toyota Corolla and Mazda GLC were some to set the lead. We had Pinto, Chevette, Granada and more that were low quality. We pay more money foreign cars because of their quality. So was it the cost of labor or poor decisions on quality levels? Don't suggest business does everything right. They did lose $13 trillion in investor money in 2008. Just because one is in business does not mean they are good at it or can manage people. Ideology is destroying our country. No one is required to get an abortion. Statements like "the government can't do anything right" come from idiots. Our military is overseas to protect U.S. business interests. (Bill Clinton).

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locomotive

Aug-29-13 11:46 AM

"All but labor are free to raise their prices at will in our private sector system. All but labor have more money for lobbyists to push their cause."

I've been thinking about this assertion, Legend. Non-organized labor, like workers in ND, a right-to-work state, are free to determine which wage (i.e., company or self-employment) they will work for, commensurate with their abilities and work experiences. Many times, union members have to work or be laid off when the top guys tell them. ND's UPS workers were not thrilled when UPS went on strike years ago.

Last summer, one former union worker from WA told me he finally got fed up with his scheduled union layoffs. He had a larger family to support and wanted to work, but his union didn't "allow" that during the layoff period. He said he was enjoying his new job in ND, with no restrictions on when or how hard he wanted to work, with a wage that matched his ability and experience.

ND is now a great place to be

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locomotive

Aug-29-13 10:12 AM

"Switch channels and start searching."

Typical leftist slam - yes, I've heard that one plenty of times.

A statement, like that from KFGO on how many fewer abortions occur under Democrats, is one thing. A citation of statistics, like those done to prove that there were fewer abortions that occurred under a Democrat administration, would be another thing.

For example, anyone can say that "Republican policies have been good for business" in North Dakota. Those with the talent can try to prove that Republican policies have been good for business in North Dakota, by gauging statistics and/or studies of business activity under those Republican administrations.

That's what I was looking for: a source that can be cited, not a station that does some talking.

Side note: I used to listen to Joel Heitkamp's KFGO show when it ran on KFYR 550. He's a likable guy and firm in his positions. Even if I didn't agree with everything he said, I learned a few things.

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Legend

Aug-28-13 11:09 PM

LOCO: KFGO Fargo gave the statement on fewer abortions with dems.

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Legend

Aug-28-13 11:05 PM

Loco: It is all mine. I challenge you to find anyone else who said the same words. Switch channels and start searching. More--the biggest irony in our political system is that farmers vote mostly republican and republicans have done the least for them-source is political science class 1968. More original: No one speaks for labor in our capitalistic system--that is why I favor the minimum wage. It would help many single moms. The U.S. chamber of commerce is the union for big business. All but labor are free to raise their prices at will in our private sector system. All but labor have more money for lobbyists to push their cause.

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locomotive

Aug-28-13 2:26 PM

Legend, it appears with your last post that you left no Democrat talking point untyped. An amazing feat.

However, I'd like to request a source for your very last point: "There are fewer abortions when the Dems have Congress."

That one is just a little harder to swallow.

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centerfield

Aug-28-13 2:26 PM

What a great and convincing theory, change/whistler. But, incorrect. Let me see, one of the biggest farmers is the Governor. Republican. A great number of those farmers are Red. Now, as to the Farmers Union... Yep, labor union. .bad, bad, bad. So, what shall we do with state and federal workers or those Base people...Your general wave of your wand does not solve the problems. It only shows how little you know about the problems and the solutions.

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centerfield

Aug-28-13 12:31 PM

Let me see, who is more dependent on government than those bad, bad liberals. How about Farmers? Or, maybe all of the State employees? Well, we also have people who work at the air bases? Now, where else could the Red State of ND get jobs? Seems like the welfare state leads the way in government support and they are Red???? Get real, righties, your people are the main group of people in ND bleeding the government. Oh, yes, there is a huge part of the Federal bureaucracy in ND too, especially those supporting agriculture. Shoot yourself in the foot much, changie/whistler.

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Legend

Aug-28-13 9:40 AM

BDNGI: Why is it ok for oil workers or investment big bankers to make $100K plus but teachers are scum for wanting $45K. Who paid for the $13 trillion investor loss in 2008? Who caused it? Money does no disappear. If labor was the problem our economy would be booming because wages are low and our spending power has been stagnant for 40 years. The faces on Rushmore would have all tried to ass ure poor/or single moms could keep their babies. They would have deported the likes of Romney and closed Bain. Why should we pay taxes for costs resulting from oil drilling in ND? The Nuns on the bus were not telling lies when they turned the last election around. I have paid $20K out of pocket in medical co-pay, etc. since 2000. I have one of the best ins. policies. Obamacare will save me and many others a bundle. Do you Like $3.69 gas? There are fewer abortions when the Dems have Congress.

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Legend

Aug-28-13 12:21 AM

BeeMarie--I agree. BDNGI--about your parents: I finished MSU in 71. Tuition and books were $1000. Not per year but all 4. My first house pmt. was $115. We could afford to be proud. Starting wages were $4.50 per hour with full benefits. Compare those costs with costs and wages today. I feel for our young workers today. Sorry we put you in the ghetto. Vote for workers and you could better your world.

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disgusted

Aug-27-13 1:38 PM

from the Dept of Human Resources, or the horse's mouth, ..."A family of three now can have a gross income up to $4,915 per month to qualify for the program. Families will also see a reduction in their monthly co-payment, which is the amount they are required to pay towards the cost of care. A co-payment is determined on a sliding scale based on income and family size." Since when does any family making that kind of money need assistance?

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centerfield

Aug-27-13 1:18 PM

Actually, if anyone on here has a foothold on stupid, it is you, BDGI. Now, I did research surrounding states: would you like to hear it...Nope, well here it is. family of three--- Federal guidelines for Free (25K) and reduced (36k) meals. Federal poverty level- 18,500. Now, max guidelines for child care help-- SD-34,200, Mich-23,900, Iowa-25,500, Louisana-36,100, Idaho-23,200, Wash St.-38,200, Penn-39,000, and, we could go on and on. But, there are also restrictions based on other factors as well. In addition, if the child is handicapped, the guidelines get bigger. Now, the amounts are based on the average income per state and therefore, ND would be higher. So, did not disappear, I just asked a question.

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BeeMarie

Aug-27-13 12:44 PM

Yeah, abortion debates (especially when you're able to hide behind user-names) can get really weird, as evidenced by a solid 80% of the posts below. Again, abortion should be kept safe, legal, and rare.

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locomotive

Aug-27-13 10:50 AM

As a disinterested bystander, I approve this blog's discussion.

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disgusted

Aug-27-13 12:46 AM

yep, you're right. it was not Loco that posted the $60,000/yr qualifier for gummint assistance. It was me. he didn't read the sarcasm that was there, but far more importantly he did show that liberals blindlyaccept every gummint handout, no matter HOW ridiculous. They have NO boundries, limitations or understanding of anything except they are truly latched onto the 'gummint milk'.

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centerfield

Aug-26-13 8:52 PM

I really don't know how to approach this question so, I suppose: Loco, where did you get your information on child care assistance? Now, don't be offended, but $60,000 a year? Now, how many children in the family? Gosh, It sounded so good when you wrote it, even gusty gave you a kudo. My, my, I must be looking in the wrong place...Oh, yes, I know, loco, as usual. So, present us with those sites.

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locomotive

Aug-26-13 5:34 PM

I liked Matt's post, "how a group at the local county fair had something like that, but it was a display on their table. And my (s)on went right up and began playing with them, but we have to give them back before we left."

This would have been the better way, instead of what was done.

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