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Democrats out of touch

August 4, 2013

Marlene Axtman, Jamestown Recently, Democrats have really out done themselves in the outlandish name-calling category....

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Aug-23-13 6:57 PM

No, YOU'RE not getting it. The entire state has a drinking problem.




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Aug-23-13 9:31 AM

namexxx, you're not getting it yet.

Individuals = small brush

States = broad brush

Using a person's name = small brush

Using "you people" = broad brush

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Aug-23-13 9:30 AM

Uh, ask locomotive what?

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Aug-22-13 9:30 PM

I'm not painting you people with a broad brush. I'm stating the truth:

N.D. drinks more beer per capita than any other state in the nation.

That's not an opinion. That's not a painted description of a state with an alcoholism and addiction problem. That's REALITY.

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Aug-22-13 6:37 PM

I forgot to mention which talking point.

Watch out, willgrr, your Fox news talking point is showing.

(Boy, they never get tired of that one, do they?)

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Aug-22-13 6:17 PM

Yeah, right.

Watch out, willgrr, your talking point is showing.

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Aug-22-13 9:14 AM

That's another talking point (Pres. Bush is responsible) but I digress.

No, namexxx, you never said my phrase "Republicans are evil incarnate," but the sentiment is awfully close. Racist morons? Neanderthals? "Have another beer and go clean your gun?"

You keep saying these things. If you don't believe them, why do you say them? There's no other conclusion any reader could make.

FYI - I myself haven't drunk any alcoholic beverage in 26 years. There are others who are of my political bent who are also non-drinkers, of beer or any other alcoholic beverage.

Yet you continue to make broad assumptions about Republicans (and ND) for this readership, namexxx. That's what I'm challenging with my phrasing.

It wouldn't be right if I painted ALL Democrats, liberals or progressives with a broad brush, would it?

What about individuals? Is it too much trouble to deal with them?

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Aug-22-13 8:48 AM

Have another beer and go clean your gun.

I never said "Republicans are evil incarnate." I don't give you that much credit. I said you people are a bunch of racist morons.

You're pathetic. And now, to try and feel better about your pathetic lives, you blame everything on "Obama."

The proof of this, of course, is that you blame "Obama" for things that happened when George Bush was president!

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Aug-22-13 8:05 AM

"Racist morons"

How could anyone disagree with this oh-so-enlightened statement?

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Aug-22-13 8:04 AM

This is just the favorite talking point of the Democrat party activists: Republicans are evil incarnate, or some other such hyperbolic statement.

Interesting how only one political party is horrible and it's the other party stating it over and over. Yeah, yeah.

Now if we go along to assume what the Democrats are assuming, that the Republican party is at an end, wouldn't that make the Democrat party a monolith in our political landscape? So are they scared of competition?

Most totalitarian regimes of the world prefer no competition. In fact, they do what they can to suppress and crush the opposition.

This seems no different. The Democrats use words of defamation rather than weapons of destruction to take out their political enemies, while declaring their own right standing at the same time. Sure, everyone's right in their own eyes.

C'mon, Democrats. Can't you "allow" others who disagree with your point of view to exist? You could be the "compassionate"

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Aug-21-13 11:50 AM

Not all working hours are from 8 to 5. Was this an out-of-touch comment?

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Aug-19-13 11:00 AM

Perhaps the word "trillions" can be used when talking about policies, not just vacations.

"Slow growth and increasing inequality are ripping the social fabric of America — vanquishing the dreams of working families, saddling the young with onerous student debt and frustrating retirement plans.

"President Barack Obama is stirring passions by proposing government initiatives he hopes will stifle House Republican efforts to curb federal spending, but those can only end in tears.

"Early in his first term, he pushed through more than $4 trillion in deficit spending on stimulus, broader Medicaid benefits, alternative energy projects and other industrial policies.

"Through last fall, growth was an anemic 2.1 percent and has since slowed by half.

"He blames sequestration, which subtracted about $45 billion from government spending."

quotes from 7-30-13 newsmax article

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Aug-19-13 10:04 AM

And I'll cite my source...

mediamatters . org/mobile/research/2009/06/01/drudge-ny-post-report-obamas-nyc-trip-cost-igno/150723

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Aug-19-13 10:03 AM

CONASON: -- program by the president. Twenty-four thousand in the scope of the expenses of the presidency isn't really very much. I'm glad he paid for the dinner and the tickets himself, though, because it wouldn't be much of a date if he had, you know, had the taxpayers pay to take out his wife.

So, this is what the presidency is. When the president travels -- as George Bush did, as Bill Clinton did, as presidents have, you know, throughout history -- the government pays to keep them safe, to keep their communication secure. This is just -- this is part of the job.

O'DONNELL: All right, Joe Conason. Great to see you, Joe. Thanks so much for joining us.

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Aug-19-13 10:03 AM

O'DONNELL: -- those tickets. What would be the counter-argument here? Do the Republicans want the Obamas just to stay at home inside the White House --

CONASON: You know --

O'DONNELL: -- and not go out and socialize and, like --

CONASON: As somebody who lives in New York City, I mean, we here would see this as an economic development --


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Aug-19-13 10:03 AM

CONASON: Everybody knows what the right thing to do is --

O'DONNELL: Yeah, everybody knows that.

CONASON: -- in those circumstances.

O'DONNELL: Joe, let me put up on the screen some of the instances of what it cost. The travel expense estimate -- $24,000. There were three planes: one for the Obamas, two for staff and reporters -- and, of course, reporters do have to reimburse the government for that expense -- two helicopters, the motorcade into New York City, and dinner costs and orchestra seat tickets were $96 apiece. But Obamas paid for their own dinner and for --

CONASON: Right. Right.

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Aug-19-13 10:02 AM

CONASON: Well, you know, Norah, you have to wonder whether any of these people got exercised, for example, when President Bush spent something like 40 percent of his time at Camp David, Kennebunkport, and his ranch in Crawford. I don't know how much all of that travel cost the taxpayers, but nobody on the Democratic side said, "Oh, the president shouldn't be doing this" -- even though he was doing this before 9-11, during the war in Iraq.

I mean, this is -- I don't think anybody is really angry about this. I think this is, as you suggested, a cheap shot. And I -- you have to wonder whether the president would rather break a promise to his wife or suffer a cheap shot from the RNC. And I think that's a pretty easy choice, right?

O'DONNELL: Yeah, exactly. I think this man knows when he makes a promise to Michelle Obama, he should not break that promise. It's a good point.

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Aug-19-13 10:02 AM

From the 10 a.m. ET hour of MSNBC Live on June 1 (2009):

NORAH O'DONNELL (host): Yeah, exactly. You know, the president and Mrs. Obama took some time this weekend to enjoy dinner and a show in New York City. The first couple stopped traffic and turned heads in the Big Apple. And even though they made the trip on a smaller version of Air Force One, Republicans are pouncing -- criticizing, slamming the Obamas for putting on a show and winging it into the city for an evening out while another iconic American company prepares for bankruptcy. Those are the words at the RNC.

With me now live, Joe Conason, national correspondent for The New York Observer. All right, Joe -- cheap shot on the part of the chairman of the Republican National Committee, Michael Steele?

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Aug-17-13 1:40 PM

The rodeo clown's big-lipped, bug-eyed Obama mask -- and the crowd's violent hoots, hollers and calls to kill President Obama -- is nothing short of modern-day minstrelsy.

This deplorable display of racism and hatred recalls the Blackface Minstrel Show horrors that date back to 18th century America.

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Aug-16-13 7:36 PM

DustOff, you mentioned Don Lemon. His initial 5 points were "Dress appropriately. Stop using the "n" word. Respect where you live. Finish school. And plan for a child or stop having them out of wedlock."

Here's Lemon's response to others, like Russell Simmons...

realclearpolitics . com/video/2013/08/11/cnns_don_lemon_responds_to_critics_attack_the_problem_not_the_messenger

And here is one response that wasn't favorable to Lemon's points...

yourblackworld . net/2013/08/black-news/dr-boyce-why-is-cnn-allowing-don-lemon-to-go-into-angry-tirades-against-black-people/

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Aug-16-13 7:09 PM

DustOff, I'm tired of the double standard.

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Aug-16-13 6:12 PM

"Do you people know what you even want?"

Isn't the use of the phrase "you people" off limits somehow? Maybe we've evolved since 1992, the days of Ross Perot...

"Willie Clark, president of the N.A.A.C.P. branch in San Bernadino, Calif., said the overall tone of Mr. Perot's remarks and particularly his use of the phrase "your people" reflected how culturally out of touch he was with his audience."

"When he said 'you people' or 'your people,' it was like waving a red flag in front of a bull," he said. "It's something white folks have used when they don't want to call you (the n-word), but they don't want to treat you like an equal."

New York Times: July 12, 1992

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Aug-15-13 2:34 AM

The state that drinks more beer than any other state -- is out of touch with reality.

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Aug-14-13 1:05 PM

Frankly, I don't care where the out-of-touch Democrats post from: New Salem, New Leipzig, New York or New Delhi.

If they want to post, let them post.

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Aug-14-13 1:00 PM

I remember driving through Minot after the flood of '69 down near Oak Park. There was a visible line on all the houses that marked how high the water had been. Very interesting for this youngster at the time.

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