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Pushing the law, no matter what

July 22, 2013

It will be easy for President Barack Obama and liberals in the Senate to overcome a House of Representatives challenge to part of the national health care law....

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muleskinner

Jul-22-13 12:12 PM

Very easy simple solution. Have a national referendum and the vote of the people can determine if Obamacare is going to be rejected or not.

Then again, if voting changed anything, it would be made illegal.

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namexxx

Jul-22-13 12:15 PM

The MDN editors are really good at cut 'n paste. This same editorial ran in 10 - 15 other "local newspapers."

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centerfield

Jul-22-13 2:26 PM

There are estimates of hundreds of millions of dollars being spent by the right wing on putting down Obama care. Well, if it is so bad, why would the Republicans want to block it? Why not let it go and let it fall on its face? Then, they could walk in and say we told you so. But, could it be that they are so afraid it will work that they want it killed before it starts? I think so. Their solution is if you get sick, die. Republicans have offered NOTHING but continue to protect the source of their big campaign donators like Pharma's, Health care companies, and other things related. Again, the Republicans propaganda machine brainwashes their illiterate followers and the money from big corporations keeps flowing.

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Missy1

Jul-22-13 4:48 PM

As long as Obama care doesn't interfere with my Insurance, cost and what they cover and my deductibles, I don't care what they do. It will no longer affect my business, I don't have employees.

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locomotive

Jul-23-13 9:19 AM

"Their solution is if you get sick, die. Republicans have offered NOTHING..."

Unadulterated baloney, centerish. Oscar Mayer.

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locomotive

Jul-23-13 9:23 AM

Perhaps the word "mandate" doesn't really have the ring it could for businesses and individuals, raj.

I can't afford this new tax, 'cuz that's what it is (SCOTUS).

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centerfield

Jul-23-13 9:28 AM

Well, well, it is time for you to serve up your baloney sandwichs for all to see. Tell us the Republican plan for health care. Come on loco, show us all that your conversations to this point mean something? Tell us the plan.

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centerfield

Jul-23-13 9:30 AM

Actually, loco, tell us the Republican plan for jobs support and building the economy through the Republican jobs bill. Come on, you can do it. Tell us about the jobs bill proposed by Republicans.

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centerfield

Jul-23-13 9:31 AM

As long as you are serving up so many Republican sandwiches, tell us about the Republican plan to handle the immigration situation. You know, let us see the tea party plan, then the middle plan, then the other plans. Go for it.

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centerfield

Jul-23-13 11:01 AM

"Well, well, it is time for you to serve up your baloney sandwiches for all to see. Tell us the Republican plan for health care. Come on loco, show us all that your conversations to this point mean something? Tell us the plan."--- Well, where is the plan???? Three disagrees and yet not one of you can show us the plan. So typical. I see the paid hypocrite is back making money from the Republicans. Good job. You know if you repeat things often enough, dusty , maybe even you will believe it. So, show us the Republican health plan, dusty.

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centerfield

Jul-23-13 1:25 PM

Well, I can see that you are not going to provide us with the Republican alternative health care plan. That seems strange, because you and dusty always have the answers. No health care plan from the REpubs.... I am shocked. As to the problem you proposed, I think that there is an easy solution. The government would hire individuals who know everything (you and dusty would be top candidates) to investigate these situations. Then, you could sit them down and berate them with your innane view/opinions until they holler uncle and run out to get insurance. It certainly would make them appreciate their parents and the really sane individuals on earth.

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locomotive

Jul-23-13 3:33 PM

I think the topic was "Obamacare" instead of "what is the Republican plan" if I'm not mistaken (and I'm not).

Pres. Obama and other Democrats (Pelosi, Reid, etc.) have had hundreds of opportunities to reach out to Republicans, to hobnob about differences/similarities in approaches to healthcare (or any other issue). When the Republicans hear "this way or the highway" that's not much of a dialogue, is it?

Typical of the libs on this issue. Throw stones at "plans," while the "law" that has been passed by Democrats should have NO scrutiny, even while the employer mandates are delayed, the unions aren't supportive anymore, and the "enforcement" arm (IRS) has alleged scandals, to name just a few things.

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centerfield

Jul-23-13 4:51 PM

So, what is your plan. You state that Obamacare is so bad that you want it repealed. So, we replace it with the Republican plan...ok...What is it?....

Too hard a question? Well, ok, tell us about the Republican Jobs bill. They must have one of those, don't they? Come on, tell us about the Republican plans for jobs...Oh, and don't be getting the one that Boner stuck in his desk two years ago and won't debate or vote on it..That was one from the Democrats and of course, it wasn't any good, even to debate. Bring on the Republican jobs bill...Tell us losers, bring it on.

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centerfield

Jul-23-13 5:17 PM

ok, changie-changie , show us your jobs bill? Or is that not important? Come on Changie, show us that bill.

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namexxx

Jul-23-13 5:34 PM

The tired old talk-radio format is only still popular with Republican right-wingers -- mainly because paranoids are used to hearing strange voices telling them to do awful things.

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centerfield

Jul-23-13 9:32 PM

Gee, changie, it is too bad you have to resort to that non-chalant reply just because you have nothing to show us. Such a waste of every ones time when you stomp around trying to find something substantial to say. We feel sorry for you changie. Such a nice guy and no hope from your party. sad.

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centerfield

Jul-24-13 1:21 AM

So, you guys don't have a plan for health care, do ya. Plus, you only believe your winger sources on Obamacare and that would be very questionable. Plus, bill and dusty would not understand it anyway. Oh, well, lets talk about the Republican Jobs bill... ok

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centerfield

Jul-24-13 9:26 AM

So, other than the 40 bills passed by the house to ban abortions, what other bills have been passed out of the house that affected the economy. There is a big jobs bill sitting on Boehnors desk and has been there for almost two years. Where is the Republican jobs bill? Health care facts from Fox news or Rush or Shawn or bill don't have much credibility. Neither of you know much about the bill. Also, if it is so bad, why are the REpublican fighting it so hard. Hundreds of millions of dollars spend to fight it with the intent that if you say it enough times, people will believe it. That is true of the term "fair and balanced" which is not true, and lots of the comments coming from knucklehead Republicans. Kinda like you two.

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Missy1

Jul-24-13 11:38 AM

rajiihammr, it will not be that simple. There are some mighty large amounts people will have to pay. The deductibles, what they will pay for at what percentage, and if you chew nicotine gum or used any other kind of thing to quit smoking, you are considered a smoker, therefore you rates go sky high, in 2014. That so called tax credit isn't going to help you at all. And if you have nicotine in your system from gum, chew or whatever, don't get a tax credit. But by God, your 26 year old kid,adult can be on your policy.

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locomotive

Jul-24-13 12:44 PM

centerish, you can't, or don't want to, read.

DustOff Jul-23-13 11:39 PM

There are good points in here, especially "...tackle the problem in an intelligent way. Read the law to everyone. Understand the program. AND MY LORD, keep the SRI (IRS) out."

Not too hard...he is using standard American English...

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centerfield

Jul-24-13 1:04 PM

That's your plan? wow, call in the press. What is the Republican plan for Health care? Where is the Republican Jobs bill. Where is the Republican immigration program. Boehnor and the illiterates are holding everything hostage and now they want to shut down the government. Yay, wingers.

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Missy1

Jul-24-13 1:14 PM

center, as soon as the President signs on to his own Obama care, I will sign up. Until then, no plan is better than this plan.

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Missy1

Jul-24-13 1:33 PM

That surcharge wipes out that so called tax credit.

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centerfield

Jul-24-13 2:09 PM

So, missy, no plan is better? Well, I would sign up too , just as soon as your republican party puts for the their alternative plan and Hoevin, Boehnor, and McConnell sign up for it. By the way, how is that alternative plan coming?

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Missy1

Jul-24-13 2:14 PM

As soon as your President signs up on his own plan, so will I. Until then this plan is garbage. rajii, it also punishes the person that quit or is trying to quit smoking. Nicotine gum equals smoking on the Obama plan.

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