Sign In | Create an Account | Welcome, . My Account | Logout | Subscribe | Submit News | Contact Us | Routes Available | All Access E-Edition | Home RSS
 
 
 

Pushing the law, no matter what

July 22, 2013

It will be easy for President Barack Obama and liberals in the Senate to overcome a House of Representatives challenge to part of the national health care law....

« Back to Article

 
 
sort: oldest | newest

Comments

(98)

billldoesntgetit

Jul-22-13 10:14 AM

Garr You do realize the Congress gets paid even if they are not working on healthcare right?

Ignorrance abound from your finger tips.. Its like saying Congress only gets paid if they are making Obama laws.. They get paid regardless of weather they even get out of bed.. The 60 million you quote would have been paid these people if they had not even shown up to vote.. Or voted PRESENT like Obama did..

5 Agrees | 5 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

billldoesntgetit

Jul-22-13 10:20 AM

Obama is always bad-mouthing the Republican party instead of trying to bring people together. Republicans are not against Obama just because he is a democrat...it's because he is a failure as president!

His speech on Martin is a prime example of how he divides.. He passed a health care bill in the dead of night with no input from the Republicans.. How can you respect a person who calls you names and put you down every time you bring up a subject. No one likes an arrogant smart mouthed community organizer who didn't even have the guts to vote up or down when he was in out Congress

Obama is getting exactly what he brought on himself. No fool like an Obama fool..

5 Agrees | 5 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

muleskinner

Jul-22-13 12:12 PM

Very easy simple solution. Have a national referendum and the vote of the people can determine if Obamacare is going to be rejected or not.

Then again, if voting changed anything, it would be made illegal.

4 Agrees | 4 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

namexxx

Jul-22-13 12:15 PM

The MDN editors are really good at cut 'n paste. This same editorial ran in 10 - 15 other "local newspapers."

7 Agrees | 4 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

centerfield

Jul-22-13 2:26 PM

There are estimates of hundreds of millions of dollars being spent by the right wing on putting down Obama care. Well, if it is so bad, why would the Republicans want to block it? Why not let it go and let it fall on its face? Then, they could walk in and say we told you so. But, could it be that they are so afraid it will work that they want it killed before it starts? I think so. Their solution is if you get sick, die. Republicans have offered NOTHING but continue to protect the source of their big campaign donators like Pharma's, Health care companies, and other things related. Again, the Republicans propaganda machine brainwashes their illiterate followers and the money from big corporations keeps flowing.

5 Agrees | 4 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Missy1

Jul-22-13 4:48 PM

As long as Obama care doesn't interfere with my Insurance, cost and what they cover and my deductibles, I don't care what they do. It will no longer affect my business, I don't have employees.

3 Agrees | 4 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

rajiihammr

Jul-23-13 12:23 AM

Come Jan. 2014 the Gov't is gonna make me drop my nearly worthless "Affordablue" plan and pay $210.00 monthly for an $850.00 "Silver" policy. That's an almost unsustainable savings. After I max out my IRA, I don't know where I'll spend the cash. Gosh darn Obamacare. :)

1 Agrees | 5 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

rajiihammr

Jul-23-13 1:37 AM

I just read a story on the the latest Republican plan to defund "Obamacare". Ya know, I believe they would solve so many more problems this nation faces if they would vote to defund Medicare. It would be an intellectually and fiscally honest move...and they would be on the street the day after the next election.

Problem solved.

It would be nice to see the Republican offer even one legitimate alternative to the ACA. All they seem to have is buying insurance across State lines...Yep, I'm gonna buy insurance from some company in Arkansas.

3 Agrees | 5 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

locomotive

Jul-23-13 9:19 AM

"Their solution is if you get sick, die. Republicans have offered NOTHING..."

Unadulterated baloney, centerish. Oscar Mayer.

3 Agrees | 5 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

locomotive

Jul-23-13 9:23 AM

Perhaps the word "mandate" doesn't really have the ring it could for businesses and individuals, raj.

I can't afford this new tax, 'cuz that's what it is (SCOTUS).

3 Agrees | 7 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

centerfield

Jul-23-13 9:28 AM

Well, well, it is time for you to serve up your baloney sandwichs for all to see. Tell us the Republican plan for health care. Come on loco, show us all that your conversations to this point mean something? Tell us the plan.

4 Agrees | 4 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

centerfield

Jul-23-13 9:30 AM

Actually, loco, tell us the Republican plan for jobs support and building the economy through the Republican jobs bill. Come on, you can do it. Tell us about the jobs bill proposed by Republicans.

4 Agrees | 4 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

centerfield

Jul-23-13 9:31 AM

As long as you are serving up so many Republican sandwiches, tell us about the Republican plan to handle the immigration situation. You know, let us see the tea party plan, then the middle plan, then the other plans. Go for it.

5 Agrees | 3 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

centerfield

Jul-23-13 11:01 AM

"Well, well, it is time for you to serve up your baloney sandwiches for all to see. Tell us the Republican plan for health care. Come on loco, show us all that your conversations to this point mean something? Tell us the plan."--- Well, where is the plan???? Three disagrees and yet not one of you can show us the plan. So typical. I see the paid hypocrite is back making money from the Republicans. Good job. You know if you repeat things often enough, dusty , maybe even you will believe it. So, show us the Republican health plan, dusty.

4 Agrees | 5 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

billldoesntgetit

Jul-23-13 11:53 AM

So Centerfield I have a question for you.

A kid 19 years old moves out of his parents house becasue he is just too smart to live under their rules. (All kids are at that age) n

OK he takes up residence in a house with 5 other boys his age and they split the rent.. are you following me?

Now the IRS is going to monitor who has health care and who doesnt have health care right?

I assume (maybe they have another plan) Thru the filing of our taxes.. Right?

So these 5 boys don't claim or file taxes.. Getting the picture?

So how will the IRS know where to find these boys and make them buy insurance or else fine them?

I"ll be watching for your answer. I am sure you and Obama and the IRS have a direct plan that deals with these young ones..

Or because they are under age 26 and not filing a return will it then be a fine tacked onto the parents bill????

5 Agrees | 5 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

billldoesntgetit

Jul-23-13 1:11 PM

Centerfield I'm waitng..

Tick...tock...tick...tock

4 Agrees | 3 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

centerfield

Jul-23-13 1:25 PM

Well, I can see that you are not going to provide us with the Republican alternative health care plan. That seems strange, because you and dusty always have the answers. No health care plan from the REpubs.... I am shocked. As to the problem you proposed, I think that there is an easy solution. The government would hire individuals who know everything (you and dusty would be top candidates) to investigate these situations. Then, you could sit them down and berate them with your innane view/opinions until they holler uncle and run out to get insurance. It certainly would make them appreciate their parents and the really sane individuals on earth.

3 Agrees | 5 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

locomotive

Jul-23-13 3:33 PM

I think the topic was "Obamacare" instead of "what is the Republican plan" if I'm not mistaken (and I'm not).

Pres. Obama and other Democrats (Pelosi, Reid, etc.) have had hundreds of opportunities to reach out to Republicans, to hobnob about differences/similarities in approaches to healthcare (or any other issue). When the Republicans hear "this way or the highway" that's not much of a dialogue, is it?

Typical of the libs on this issue. Throw stones at "plans," while the "law" that has been passed by Democrats should have NO scrutiny, even while the employer mandates are delayed, the unions aren't supportive anymore, and the "enforcement" arm (IRS) has alleged scandals, to name just a few things.

3 Agrees | 4 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

centerfield

Jul-23-13 4:51 PM

So, what is your plan. You state that Obamacare is so bad that you want it repealed. So, we replace it with the Republican plan...ok...What is it?....

Too hard a question? Well, ok, tell us about the Republican Jobs bill. They must have one of those, don't they? Come on, tell us about the Republican plans for jobs...Oh, and don't be getting the one that Boner stuck in his desk two years ago and won't debate or vote on it..That was one from the Democrats and of course, it wasn't any good, even to debate. Bring on the Republican jobs bill...Tell us losers, bring it on.

2 Agrees | 2 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

centerfield

Jul-23-13 5:17 PM

ok, changie-changie , show us your jobs bill? Or is that not important? Come on Changie, show us that bill.

2 Agrees | 3 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

namexxx

Jul-23-13 5:34 PM

The tired old talk-radio format is only still popular with Republican right-wingers -- mainly because paranoids are used to hearing strange voices telling them to do awful things.

4 Agrees | 3 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

billldoesntgetit

Jul-23-13 6:01 PM

Brilliant Centerfield Thats the crapola I expected out of your mouth.. The same Crapola that comes out of Obamas mouth. Neither of you have any clue as to how to FORCE everyone to buy insurance.. Its just a Pipe dream of the Liberals..

God I cannot believe how dumb those people REALLY are..

2 Agrees | 3 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

rajiihammr

Jul-23-13 7:10 PM

Loco---The mandate that I obey are the economic realities of having just a little bit of worth and a good deal of personal integrity. I compel myself to take personal responsibility for my health and well being. So I've always jumped at the chance to buy health insurance when it was offered by an employer. Our system encourages gold plated insurance policies who's cost is passed along to the US Govt.. And the rest of us live in that world; paying too high a cost for care that doesn't cut it.

You've got a bee in your bonnet about the waiving of the employer mandate. The figure I've heard is that is decision affect about 6% of companies. Less than 50 employees; carry-on. More than 50; pay a penalty for putting the employees in the position to have the taxpayers of the US carry part of the load. I say that any employer who has more than 50 employees has GOT to be making some serious money and she should be able to assist with HC cost.

4 Agrees | 2 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

rajiihammr

Jul-23-13 7:27 PM

Bill---Who pays for your health insurance? Do you carry no insurance? Does an employer pay your way? Or are you a senior on Medicare? If you carry no insurance, will you pay the tax penalty or show no integrity and actually buy insurance and, heaven forbid, use the tax credit coming to you. I feel a troll who tosses insults so freely should be asked some personal questions. We need to know the personal circumstances of such a creep.

3 Agrees | 3 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

centerfield

Jul-23-13 9:32 PM

Gee, changie, it is too bad you have to resort to that non-chalant reply just because you have nothing to show us. Such a waste of every ones time when you stomp around trying to find something substantial to say. We feel sorry for you changie. Such a nice guy and no hope from your party. sad.

3 Agrees | 4 Disagrees | Report Abuse »

Showing 25 of 98 comments Show More Comments
 
 

Post a Comment

You must first login before you can comment.

*Your email address:
*Password:
Remember my email address.
or
 
 

 

I am looking for:
in:
News, Blogs & Events Web