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Farm Bill nutrition

July 21, 2013

Bob Kuylen, South Heart There is an effort under way on Capitol Hill to pull the nutrition title from the farm bill. If that happens, we may not get a farm bill at al....

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billldoesntgetit

Jul-21-13 8:57 AM

Food stamps need to be cut off and they sure do not belong in the farm bill.. They have nothing to do with farming when you hand out free food. Its just been a way for rich farmers to live in the city and get paid.

Time to get the bill back to its orginal form BEFORE food stamps were tacked onto it.

The farm bill costs a trillion dollars over ten years. 800 billion of it, 80 percent, is food stamps. Only 20 percent goes to the farmers directly.

This farm bill needs to be for farmers not food stamps. Who knows with snap off their back farmers may do better..

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angeR69

Jul-21-13 12:04 PM

BDGI, The farm bill will ALWAYS be tied to food stamps, otherwise there wouldn't be a farm bill. The only way to get the big city liberals in Congress to sign off on welfare to farmers is to link it to a much bigger welfare cash-grab for their constituents.

Besides, do you think SNAP doesn't benefit the farmers? It generates demand for their products, which in turn drives up prices.

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angeR69

Jul-21-13 12:19 PM

For years we have elected congressional delegations based what kind of Federal money they can bring home to the farmer. These delegations have been both Democrat and Republican, but they were all elected for the same purpose. SNAP is the baggage that comes with that pork.

You can't divorce SNAP from the farm bill. It just is not going to happen. The best answer is to scrap the current system, and let market forces rather than government policy determine the best farming practices. Does this mean some family farms will shut down because they can't compete? Unfortunately, it does. But we cannot afford to fund this bloated government, and that includes subsidies to farmers.

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billldoesntgetit

Jul-21-13 2:37 PM

Snaps has nothing to do with farming.. Unless of course we take all those folks who are on food stamps and let them "work" the fields and "earn" their food stamps..

Obama and the government leeches along with the government employees are bankrupting this country.

AngeR I think if the money was cut to the farmers you would see just the opposite of your prediction. I think the rich farmers who are the ones getting all the Government money would dump their farms and a lot of small time farmers could do better.

The Farmers Union have been in the pockets of big Government ever since I can remember.. My father disliked them and their corruption..

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billldoesntgetit

Jul-21-13 8:13 PM

Leftwing why do we need a food stamp bill? Why isn't it part of the states welfare? Is it because if the states have it Obama cannot control it? Now its Federal and he hands out food stamps like candy on election day.. Do you realize that since 2008 the amount of people on food stamps has doubled?

Explain how food stamps could have doubled? Oner 1/3 of the country receives food stamps.. Pretty sick country if you ask me..overrun by a Prez who is a welfare baby himself and wants everyone to live for free. Thats how dumb the slob is. He thi9nks no one has to work.. He is the biggest idiot I have ever run across.

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icart68

Jul-21-13 10:18 PM

I LOVE it when people blame the federal government for everything after 8 years of not blaming it for anything

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billldoesntgetit

Jul-21-13 10:20 PM

After 5 years of no achievments how long do we wait Icart? Name all the things Obama has done that have improved the economy in the last 5 years would you?

Asked the other guys and got the silent treatment.. hummm nothing they could think of I guess

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icart68

Jul-21-13 10:26 PM

Did you know the largest recipients of food stamps are WHITE CHILDREN? Did you know that the overwhelming majority of working-abled food stamps recipients WORK FULL OR PART TIME? Did you know that the DISABLED AND SENIOR CITIZENS make up a large percentage of the food stamp beneficiaries? And that 76% of SNAP benefits goes towards HOUSEHOLDS WITH CHILDREN? Did you know the majority of food stamp beneficiaries use the program for JUST 6 MONTHS and that the rate of fraud in the program is LESS THAN 1%?

I bet you didn't. And if you did, I bet you choose to ignore it, because it went against YOUR COMMON BUT VERY FALSE MISCONCEPTIONS, that people on food stamps are lazy, unemployed, drug-addicted welfare queens living and leeching off the teet of responsible taxpayers.

hhmmmm....Sound familiar?? BILL????

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billldoesntgetit

Jul-21-13 10:30 PM

Senator Ben Nelson of Florida.. 2005

The high price of gasoline is President Bushes fault..

An oil crisis is looming, Nelson said, with gasoline prices reaching more than $4 a gallon in some parts of the country.

Greater demand and less supply means the slightest disruption "could wreak economic havoc," he said.

"It may be that a terrorist sinks a super tanker in the Strait of Hormuz blocking oil from an oil thirsty world," Nelson said. "It may be a mega-hurricane that goes right up Galveston Bay and shuts down the refineries in Houston."

"Whatever the cause, the crisis is coming."

Where the heck is Ben Nelson today? Has he gone deaf and dumb like the rest of the Democrats on Gas Prices..

Everything was President Bushes fault now dumb people like Obama are in charge and gasoline is causing a crisis.. I mean after all Ben Nelson said Whatever the cause the crisis is coming..

Good Gosh democrats are DUMB!!

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icart68

Jul-21-13 10:32 PM

Improving the Economy, Preventing Depression He pushed through and signed the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, otherwise known as “the stimulus package,” despite the fact that not one Republican voted for that bill. In addition, he launched recovery.gov, so that taxpayers could track spending from the Act. In his first year, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act created and sustained 2.1 million jobs and stimulated the economy 3.5%. He completed the massive TARP financial and banking rescue plan, and recovered virtually all of its costs. He created the Making Home Affordable home refinancing plan. He oversaw the creation of more jobs in 2010 alone than Bush did in eight years.

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icart68

Jul-21-13 10:33 PM

He oversaw a bailout of General Motors that saved at least 1.4 million jobs, and put pressure on the company to change its practices, resulting in GM returning to its place as the top car company in the world. He also doubled funding for the Manufacturing Extension Partnership which is designed to improve manufacturing efficiency. He signed the Fraud Enforcement and Recovery Act giving the federal government more tools to investigate and prosecute fraud in every corner of the financial system. It also created a bipartisan Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission to investigate the financial fraud that led to the economic meltdown. He signed the Credit Card Accountability, Responsibility and Disclosure (CARD) Act, which was designed to protect consumers from unfair and deceptive credit card practices. He increased infrastructure spending after years of neglect.

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icart68

Jul-21-13 10:35 PM

He signed the Helping Families Save Their Homes Act, expanding on the Making Home Affordable Program to help millions of Americans avoid preventable foreclosures. The bill also provided $2.2 billion to help combat homelessness, and to stabilize the housing market. Through the Worker, Home Ownership, and Business Assistance Act of 2009, he and Congressional Democrats provided tax credits to first-time home buyers, which helped the U.S. housing market recovery. He initiated a $15 billion plan designed to encourage increased lending to small businesses. He created business.gov, which allows for online collaboration between small businesses and experts re managing a business. He played a lead role in getting the G-20 Summit to commit to a $1.1 trillion deal to combat the global financial crisis.

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billldoesntgetit

Jul-21-13 10:35 PM

As the economy recovers and people go back to work, SNAP participation and program costs, too, can be expected to decline. Unemployment has begun to slowly fall, and SNAP participation growth has flattened out. The Congressional Budget Office projects SNAP participation to begin declining in 2015, with both unemployment and SNAP participation returning to near pre-recession levels by 2022.[v]

So in 2022 when all those seniors have died then it will decline? Obama will go down as the guy who kept America buried in debt and without jobs and half his nation on food stamps. Some legacy isn't it?

An Illinois grocer found guilty in an $844,000 food stamp fraud case has been sentenced to two and half years in federal prison, according to an announcement by police on Monday.

Khaled Saleh, the owner of Sunset Food Market in Waukegan, Illinois, was found guilty of defrauding government and nutrition programs of $844,000 over a two year period.

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icart68

Jul-21-13 10:36 PM

He took steps to improve minority access to capital. He created a $60 billion bank to fund infrastructure improvements such as roads and bridges. He implemented an auto industry rescue plan, and saved as many as 1 million jobs. Many are of the opinion that he saved the entire auto industry, and even the economy of the entire Midwest. Through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, he saved at least 300,000 education jobs, such as teachers, principals, librarians, and counselors that would have otherwise been lost. He dismantled the Minerals Management Service, thereby moving forward to cut ties between energy companies and the government. Provided funding to states and the Department of Homeland Security to save thousands of police and firefighter jobs from being cut during the recession.

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icart68

Jul-21-13 10:38 PM

He used recovered TARP money to fund programs at local housing finance agencies in California, Florida, Nevada, Arizona and Michigan. Crafted an Executive order establishing the President’s Advisory Council on Financial Capability to assist in financial education for all Americans.

Yeah...Looks like he's done NOTHING...huh Bill??

What exactly did "DUB-YA" do, since you want, "specifics"...Let's see that list???

So do you feel like a COMPLETE AZZ...YET??????

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billldoesntgetit

Jul-21-13 10:40 PM

Funny how no jobs is Bhoners problem. Is he now the POTUS?

Some people don't even know who is in charge. But then I guess we all know Obama is not in charge He has not done ****TTT as far as getting any jobs here in America.. He is a waste of space in the White House.. His legacy will be pitiful to say the least. Wanna talk the stimulus???? Really? Are you that uneducated? Have you seen the news Detroit filed bankruptcy.. Obama gave them money.. Solyndra.. failed.. Obama gave them money, electric car companies failed Obama gave them money.. Sonny boy Just because he borrowed it and spent it doesn't mean it accomplished one single thing.. Geeez ignorance at its finest..

Remember the summer of Recovery? Ask Obama when it was.. we are all still waiting..

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billldoesntgetit

Jul-21-13 10:41 PM

He used recovered TARP money to fund programs at local housing finance agencies in California, Florida, Nevada, Arizona and Michigan.

How did that stimulate the economy Icart???? Tell us how many jobs he created OK?

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billldoesntgetit

Jul-21-13 10:45 PM

Prove that he saved these jobs Icart? Its all funny money on paper.. Youre so easy.. you and all the rest of the milk suckers that hang off the Government.. Obama has not created any jobs.. He has in fact caused many folks to lose their jobs thru all his regulations..

Hummm Obama saved the auto industry REALLY? You are really lapping up MSNBC bs .. How come Detroit the Auto Capital of the world is BROKE??? Its called Democratic Government that broke the back of Detroit.. Its called Greed Its called FREE.. So much free they don't have enough workers to pay for the free.

Our country is headed the same way. Obama is giving away everything free as people lose their jobs.. He said he was dumb in math and thats become very obvious..

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icart68

Jul-21-13 10:46 PM

Copy and paste all this information from a right-wing mag

Yeah, apparently didn't read that part, now did cha!!!

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icart68

Jul-21-13 10:47 PM

Hey Bill.....Remember this post?? Oh yeah...(K-D)

Did you know the largest recipients of food stamps are WHITE CHILDREN? Did you know that the overwhelming majority of working-abled food stamps recipients WORK FULL OR PART TIME? Did you know that the DISABLED AND SENIOR CITIZENS make up a large percentage of the food stamp beneficiaries? And that 76% of SNAP benefits goes towards HOUSEHOLDS WITH CHILDREN? Did you know the majority of food stamp beneficiaries use the program for JUST 6 MONTHS and that the rate of fraud in the program is LESS THAN 1%?

I bet you didn't. And if you did, I bet you choose to ignore it, because it went against YOUR COMMON BUT VERY FALSE MISCONCEPTIONS, that people on food stamps are lazy, unemployed, drug-addicted welfare queens living and leeching off the teet of responsible taxpayers.

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billldoesntgetit

Jul-21-13 10:56 PM

No matter how you spin it Icart Obama has had a very poor showing for 5 years in office and things ain't getting much better. The debt is still growing and people are still unemployed. The rules for getting food stamps have been so drastically reduced by Obama that my dog can qualify. Obama has not cut out any duplicate Government programs even tho he said he was going to (But then hes been a liar since day one) so what else can we expect?

He told the welfare people they didn't have to look for jobs he would continue to feed them and give them money. He was for Employers on the Obamacare plan but now he is against them.. His lil head must spin like a top with the big ears flapping every time he has to make a decision..

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billldoesntgetit

Jul-21-13 11:02 PM

DISABLED AND SENIOR CITIZENS make up a large percentage of the food stamp beneficiaries

How large Icart? Come on you're using big words put some numbers up with them. Then tell me how many of that same group came on food stamps since Obama took office.. Probably none. These folks have always been subject to the use of food stamps even during the Bush and Clinton years.. I'm talking all the new people and the COLLEGE KIDS yes they too are now on the FOOD STAMP program. They borrow money from the Government to go to school and then show it as a debt which lowers their income to allow them to get on food stamps.. Obama set them up and now he is feeding them too. Its bad enough we feed the school kids 3 meals a day but now we are feeding the college kids thru food stamps. No pride in this country.. It left when Obama walked in the door and dropped his bags.. WELFARE KING OBAMA!

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angeR69

Jul-22-13 12:27 AM

"Did you know the largest recipients of food stamps are WHITE CHILDREN?"

I that largest in number or in size?

I don't recall anyone else bringing race into it until you did. Is there a specific reason you care about the race of the people who receive food stamps?

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angeR69

Jul-22-13 12:47 AM

"Did you know that the overwhelming majority of working-abled food stamps recipients WORK FULL OR PART TIME?"

I don't know about BDGI, but I sure did. And I'm sure you believe this has to be because employers aren't paying enough. But in reality it ties more into the unraveling of the social fabric. Kids are growing up too soon. Our society encourages it. Not only is it accepted these days for children to grow up in a single-parent family - it's expected. And Uncle Sam gets to fulfill that Daddy role. Mommy gets the bennies, and daddy gets to abdicate his responsibilities. Or in some cases, it's the other way around. But either way, it's what the Democrats want because it ensures a dependent class of dupes that they can always count on for a vote.

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angeR69

Jul-22-13 1:05 AM

"...because it went against YOUR COMMON BUT VERY FALSE MISCONCEPTIONS, that people on food stamps are lazy, unemployed, drug-addicted welfare queens living and leeching off the teet of responsible taxpayers."

Working stiffs or not, they're still living off the backs of other working stiffs that don't get these bennies. After all, not everyone can get the bennies right? Or there would be no need for them because then everybody would just be paying for everybody else's bennies.

But you really need to be honest. It's not just food stamps. It's Section 8 or public housing, it's Medicaid. In some cases SSI when you can qualify your kid for some kind of disability. And there are a lot of people that stay on these programs for years. Six months? Don't kid yourself. It's six months at a time, because your income and assets are reviewed every six months.

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