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Farm Bill nutrition

July 21, 2013

Bob Kuylen, South Heart There is an effort under way on Capitol Hill to pull the nutrition title from the farm bill. If that happens, we may not get a farm bill at al....

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angeR69

Jul-21-13 12:04 PM

BDGI, The farm bill will ALWAYS be tied to food stamps, otherwise there wouldn't be a farm bill. The only way to get the big city liberals in Congress to sign off on welfare to farmers is to link it to a much bigger welfare cash-grab for their constituents.

Besides, do you think SNAP doesn't benefit the farmers? It generates demand for their products, which in turn drives up prices.

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angeR69

Jul-21-13 12:19 PM

For years we have elected congressional delegations based what kind of Federal money they can bring home to the farmer. These delegations have been both Democrat and Republican, but they were all elected for the same purpose. SNAP is the baggage that comes with that pork.

You can't divorce SNAP from the farm bill. It just is not going to happen. The best answer is to scrap the current system, and let market forces rather than government policy determine the best farming practices. Does this mean some family farms will shut down because they can't compete? Unfortunately, it does. But we cannot afford to fund this bloated government, and that includes subsidies to farmers.

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icart68

Jul-21-13 10:18 PM

I LOVE it when people blame the federal government for everything after 8 years of not blaming it for anything

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icart68

Jul-21-13 10:26 PM

Did you know the largest recipients of food stamps are WHITE CHILDREN? Did you know that the overwhelming majority of working-abled food stamps recipients WORK FULL OR PART TIME? Did you know that the DISABLED AND SENIOR CITIZENS make up a large percentage of the food stamp beneficiaries? And that 76% of SNAP benefits goes towards HOUSEHOLDS WITH CHILDREN? Did you know the majority of food stamp beneficiaries use the program for JUST 6 MONTHS and that the rate of fraud in the program is LESS THAN 1%?

I bet you didn't. And if you did, I bet you choose to ignore it, because it went against YOUR COMMON BUT VERY FALSE MISCONCEPTIONS, that people on food stamps are lazy, unemployed, drug-addicted welfare queens living and leeching off the teet of responsible taxpayers.

hhmmmm....Sound familiar?? BILL????

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icart68

Jul-21-13 10:32 PM

Improving the Economy, Preventing Depression He pushed through and signed the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, otherwise known as “the stimulus package,” despite the fact that not one Republican voted for that bill. In addition, he launched recovery.gov, so that taxpayers could track spending from the Act. In his first year, the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act created and sustained 2.1 million jobs and stimulated the economy 3.5%. He completed the massive TARP financial and banking rescue plan, and recovered virtually all of its costs. He created the Making Home Affordable home refinancing plan. He oversaw the creation of more jobs in 2010 alone than Bush did in eight years.

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icart68

Jul-21-13 10:33 PM

He oversaw a bailout of General Motors that saved at least 1.4 million jobs, and put pressure on the company to change its practices, resulting in GM returning to its place as the top car company in the world. He also doubled funding for the Manufacturing Extension Partnership which is designed to improve manufacturing efficiency. He signed the Fraud Enforcement and Recovery Act giving the federal government more tools to investigate and prosecute fraud in every corner of the financial system. It also created a bipartisan Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission to investigate the financial fraud that led to the economic meltdown. He signed the Credit Card Accountability, Responsibility and Disclosure (CARD) Act, which was designed to protect consumers from unfair and deceptive credit card practices. He increased infrastructure spending after years of neglect.

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icart68

Jul-21-13 10:35 PM

He signed the Helping Families Save Their Homes Act, expanding on the Making Home Affordable Program to help millions of Americans avoid preventable foreclosures. The bill also provided $2.2 billion to help combat homelessness, and to stabilize the housing market. Through the Worker, Home Ownership, and Business Assistance Act of 2009, he and Congressional Democrats provided tax credits to first-time home buyers, which helped the U.S. housing market recovery. He initiated a $15 billion plan designed to encourage increased lending to small businesses. He created business.gov, which allows for online collaboration between small businesses and experts re managing a business. He played a lead role in getting the G-20 Summit to commit to a $1.1 trillion deal to combat the global financial crisis.

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icart68

Jul-21-13 10:36 PM

He took steps to improve minority access to capital. He created a $60 billion bank to fund infrastructure improvements such as roads and bridges. He implemented an auto industry rescue plan, and saved as many as 1 million jobs. Many are of the opinion that he saved the entire auto industry, and even the economy of the entire Midwest. Through the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act, he saved at least 300,000 education jobs, such as teachers, principals, librarians, and counselors that would have otherwise been lost. He dismantled the Minerals Management Service, thereby moving forward to cut ties between energy companies and the government. Provided funding to states and the Department of Homeland Security to save thousands of police and firefighter jobs from being cut during the recession.

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icart68

Jul-21-13 10:38 PM

He used recovered TARP money to fund programs at local housing finance agencies in California, Florida, Nevada, Arizona and Michigan. Crafted an Executive order establishing the President’s Advisory Council on Financial Capability to assist in financial education for all Americans.

Yeah...Looks like he's done NOTHING...huh Bill??

What exactly did "DUB-YA" do, since you want, "specifics"...Let's see that list???

So do you feel like a COMPLETE AZZ...YET??????

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icart68

Jul-21-13 10:46 PM

Copy and paste all this information from a right-wing mag

Yeah, apparently didn't read that part, now did cha!!!

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icart68

Jul-21-13 10:47 PM

Hey Bill.....Remember this post?? Oh yeah...(K-D)

Did you know the largest recipients of food stamps are WHITE CHILDREN? Did you know that the overwhelming majority of working-abled food stamps recipients WORK FULL OR PART TIME? Did you know that the DISABLED AND SENIOR CITIZENS make up a large percentage of the food stamp beneficiaries? And that 76% of SNAP benefits goes towards HOUSEHOLDS WITH CHILDREN? Did you know the majority of food stamp beneficiaries use the program for JUST 6 MONTHS and that the rate of fraud in the program is LESS THAN 1%?

I bet you didn't. And if you did, I bet you choose to ignore it, because it went against YOUR COMMON BUT VERY FALSE MISCONCEPTIONS, that people on food stamps are lazy, unemployed, drug-addicted welfare queens living and leeching off the teet of responsible taxpayers.

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angeR69

Jul-22-13 12:27 AM

"Did you know the largest recipients of food stamps are WHITE CHILDREN?"

I that largest in number or in size?

I don't recall anyone else bringing race into it until you did. Is there a specific reason you care about the race of the people who receive food stamps?

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angeR69

Jul-22-13 12:47 AM

"Did you know that the overwhelming majority of working-abled food stamps recipients WORK FULL OR PART TIME?"

I don't know about BDGI, but I sure did. And I'm sure you believe this has to be because employers aren't paying enough. But in reality it ties more into the unraveling of the social fabric. Kids are growing up too soon. Our society encourages it. Not only is it accepted these days for children to grow up in a single-parent family - it's expected. And Uncle Sam gets to fulfill that Daddy role. Mommy gets the bennies, and daddy gets to abdicate his responsibilities. Or in some cases, it's the other way around. But either way, it's what the Democrats want because it ensures a dependent class of dupes that they can always count on for a vote.

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angeR69

Jul-22-13 1:05 AM

"...because it went against YOUR COMMON BUT VERY FALSE MISCONCEPTIONS, that people on food stamps are lazy, unemployed, drug-addicted welfare queens living and leeching off the teet of responsible taxpayers."

Working stiffs or not, they're still living off the backs of other working stiffs that don't get these bennies. After all, not everyone can get the bennies right? Or there would be no need for them because then everybody would just be paying for everybody else's bennies.

But you really need to be honest. It's not just food stamps. It's Section 8 or public housing, it's Medicaid. In some cases SSI when you can qualify your kid for some kind of disability. And there are a lot of people that stay on these programs for years. Six months? Don't kid yourself. It's six months at a time, because your income and assets are reviewed every six months.

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icart68

Jul-22-13 6:16 AM

What exactly did "DUB-YA" do, since you want, "specifics"...Let's see that list???

Still waiting Bill...

"Asked the other guys and got the silent treatment.. hummm nothing they could think of I guess"...Practice what your "preaching" huh, Bill???

Probably you can't think of anything from Dub-Ya, because he COMPLETELY DEVASTATED AND COLLAPSED OUR FINANCIAL SYSTEM

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icart68

Jul-22-13 6:34 AM

I just gave you 20 examples of what Obama has done in the last 5 years, All have been true, But the K-D watches Faux Snooze....You know, the channel of RICH people, paying RICH people to tell MIDDLE CLASS people to blame the POOR people!!!!

CAN ANYONE remember a single thing that Congress has done to help the working class in the past two years??

America doesn't have a "Money" problem, it's got a "Priorities" problem...We give tax cuts to the wealthy and budget cuts to the poor.

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icart68

Jul-22-13 6:47 AM

I don't recall anyone else bringing race into it until you did. Is there a specific reason you care about the race of the people who receive food stamps? ....

No, I don't care, but I thought that maybe... JUST MAYBE it would shut the IGNORANCE of your, and Bill's post of discriminate remarks

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centerfield

Jul-22-13 6:55 AM

Maybe we should be looking at the governing body of our country. After all, spending bills originate in the House and are sent to the Senate. Other bills start in the Senate and are sent to the House. Then, they send the finished bills to the White House. Hmmmm, so lets talk about the work of the House first> Well, go ahead Billydoesn't, tell us about their body of work. Or, lets talk about the Senate and its 420 filibusters... How is that going for the country. Maybe we should talk about the verbal comments made by republican telling us they will do "anything" to stop what the administration proposes. When you had Boooossssch in office, the Republicans supported everything and passed it. The congress and their do nothing attitude are the problem. So, I too would like to hear about all the bills and items the House and Senate have passed to help the country. You guys have been asked for this many times but still nothing... well, that is what the House has done-N

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centerfield

Jul-22-13 6:57 AM

"nothing"

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locomotive

Jul-22-13 10:05 AM

"And there are a lot of people that stay on these programs for years. Six months? Don't kid yourself. It's six months at a time, because your income and assets are reviewed every six months."

Accurate information, angeR.

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angeR69

Jul-22-13 10:05 AM

"No, I don't care, but I thought that maybe... JUST MAYBE it would shut the IGNORANCE of your, and Bill's post of discriminate remarks"

Once more... this time in English.

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locomotive

Jul-22-13 10:23 AM

centerish, I'm waiting for your list of bills initiated and passed by the House when Democrats were in the majority. Off-hand, the only one I can think of is ACA, the one that Pelosi said would have to be passed before anyone could know what's in it. And it passed without any wascally wepublicans' support. If there's any buyer's remorse now (the delay of the employer mandate and/or other snafus), this was the Democrats' babykins. Live with it.

Really, if Democrats think that passing more and more bills without actually reading them is what would truly help the country, I'll beg to differ.

Wouldn't it more prudent to actually know what the House and Senate are passing? Perhaps then there could be more transparency, efficiency and accountability, to coin a phrase.

Oh, I get it now. It's called "obstruction" when a Republican majority does it (any measure that centerish disagrees with), but it's "moving forward" when a Democrat majority does it (ACA+).

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locomotive

Jul-22-13 10:26 AM

"America doesn't have a "Money" problem, it's got a "Priorities" problem."

So any news about US debt or US deficit spending are just not a problem? I wonder what MSNBC says about those two words, debt or deficit...

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angeR69

Jul-22-13 10:32 AM

Success measured in the number of bills passed. Only in the mind of a liberal. If Boehner and the Republicans in the house had a spine, they would stop EVERYTHING they possibly could. Instead, they cry uncle every time a government shutdown is threatened.

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locomotive

Jul-22-13 10:40 AM

article on debt 1-11-13

maddowblog . msnbc****/_news/2013/01/11/16463952-on-debt-reduction-us-is-nearly-finished?lite

"...policymakers have already adopted a series of measures that will sharply reduce growth in the national debt. Indeed, just since the start of fiscal year 2011, President Obama has signed $2.4 trillion of debt reduction into law. If one includes the projected savings from the Affordable Care Act, that total is even higher.

"Of course, there is no debt crisis right now -- the U.S. can borrow as much as it wants, cheaply and easily..."

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