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Too many deer create problems

April 28, 2013

Once more I am suffering a lot of damage to my evergreens from a herd of deer that moved in on me this winter, and they are still her....

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disgusted

Apr-28-13 9:51 AM

I am not a hunter, but i thought hunting was used as one way to control the deer population. If you spent thousands of dollars on trees, tree wrap or small fence around each tree till it grew would be a wise investment.

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EarlyBird

Apr-28-13 12:35 PM

Same problems here, they eventually come haul the dead ones out. I don't appreciate when they make us have dead deer in our front yards until a convenient time for them to remove them. It's a crazy situation!

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EarlyBird

Apr-28-13 12:36 PM

I got lucky and the trees were mostly covered with snow or it was to deep for them to get to them. The dead ones laying around my house is what disgusts me.

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muleskinner

Apr-28-13 12:52 PM

One good-sized dog will probably help your dire situation.

Not from the country, are you? You bought property and want it perfectly manicured and it is not going to happen all by itself. Nature abhors a vacuum and you present one, so it is your fault, not the deer's. If you hadn't planted all of those trees, they wouldn't be there.

Just be happy that they are there and you are alive to complain about it. Thanks for letting us know. It is your problem, and if a dog isn't good enough, I can't help you. Also, you can uproot the trees and let them die, or cut them down, or you can sell them. You made the choice, the deer are there to take advantage of nature's bounty. It is not their fault. It's yours.

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EarlyBird

Apr-28-13 1:13 PM

mule.. starving deer will eat anything they can get their teeth into. Don't be blaming anything but a super tough long winter and way to many deer. They come to sanctuaries like peoples yards are to them to get away from coyotes and bobcats then eat everything in sight. You don't have a clue just bad ideas. We are not against providing protection and some food but when there are 100 and even 200 deer they destroy everything like locusts. These beautiful creatures were not put here for people to profit from other than food for us who like it.

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muleskinner

Apr-28-13 3:31 PM

I saw probably 10 bald eagles feeding on a dead deer about a week ago. They don't even have a license. Call the game warden and have those eagles arrested.

Can we blame the farmers and ranchers who have been selling truckload after truckload of hay going south to Colorado and Texas because of the drought in those places? The deer suffer so feedlot cattle can be fed.

Ranchers and farmers who have sold too much hay are to blame for the starving deer.

No, the State of North Dakota is to blame for not seizing the hay and feeding it to the deer. Greedy cattle feedlot owners down South are to blame for dead deer in North Dakota.

Maybe nature just takes its course.

The winters of 2009, 10, 11 were tough on wildlife and it isn't hard to see that is what happened.

I'm just glad I see partridge out there where hunters don't know where they are so their numbers continue to increase.

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EarlyBird

Apr-28-13 4:07 PM

Mule.. I agree with your statements about bad winters and it's very nice to see some partridge sneak back into our lives.

We want people to shoot deer in our area and very little land is posted because of that. My family and I have invited many many people to hunt and shoot deer or whatever they want except fox, we kind of like those skunk eating little buggers.

The worst over populations seem to occur where outfitters plant food plots and bait until season is over and the plots are eaten up leaving hundreds of deer looking for more food. In bad winters it is very difficult for them to migrate except down the roads we all have to drive on. Then to top it off the outfitters patrol the area to make sure nobody shoots their deer and are always chasing the deer back to their properties and away from legal hunters. I see it every day where I live and the warden we have will not make them stop shining and chasing the deer around at all hours of the day and night.

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CJofWolfcreek

Apr-28-13 4:12 PM

I'm sorry that your property is being damaged. I'm even more sorry that deer are starving. But blaming hunters is unfair. You planted those trees, you created a haven for those deer that didn't include food plots. You want them to leave your pines alone? Plant them some food, or make friends with those hunters you blame and let them thin the herd out on your property. You can contact fish and game and ask about depredation permits so hunters can come in and stop the deer from destroying your trees. There are many things you can do, blaming the people that can help you isn't one of them.

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EarlyBird

Apr-28-13 4:24 PM

For anyone who cares to know I love animals more than people, some just to look at and a couple species to eat.

CJ the outfitters need to plant enough food plots to carry the deer through the winter not us who do not sell deer. If the outfitters want to congregate large herds they should feed them all year not just for their selling season. It's those herds of deer that typically are the deer that starve and create problems for people.

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billldoesntgetit

Apr-28-13 4:54 PM

Ranchers and farmers who have sold too much hay are to blame for the starving deer??????

Really??? So now its the farmers duty to put up enough feed for the wildlife so the hunters will have deer to kill during deer season?

Really Ranchers and farmers who have sold too much hay are to blame for the starving deer?????

Gotta blame someone don't we.. Before mankind came to North Dakota who fed the deer? These are nature's creatures.. No we don't like to see them starve but if they are over populated they will go hungry.. When America becomes over populated we too will go hungry.

Its the circle of life..

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billldoesntgetit

Apr-28-13 4:56 PM

Maybe its time to round them up and put them on a reservation and let the Government @Taxpayer) feed them right?

Then the Government could bring in their friends to hunt and kill for the sport.

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CJofWolfcreek

Apr-28-13 5:07 PM

EB, the article blamed hunters, not outfitters. I've never used an outfitter. My primary deer hunting grounds are in a farmers backyard 200 yards from his house. We entered into this arrangement through the program fish and game has to connect hunters with property owners. I've been hunting that land for 5 years now and like to think I'm still helping that farmer avoid damages by a herd that thrives on his land.

I can see how some hunters would use outfitters though as more and more land is being posted up. It's getting difficult for hunters to gain access. Sometimes overnight.

Hunted one quarter opening day a few years back. Came in from the opposite side the next day and when I got to the other end there was a brand new sign up where one wasn't the day before. That kind of landowner behaviour can lead hunters to using an outfitter, so they don't become accidental poachers.

Luckily I didn't get a deer that day and I now make sure all boundaries of a property are not posted.

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EarlyBird

Apr-28-13 5:21 PM

CJ.. I agree it is not hunters and I didn't blame them. I have never used an outfitter either and probably never will unless I get so rich I go on an African safari. The only land around here that is posted solid and patrolled is outfitters lands. We are on the same page and don't know it I guess.

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CJofWolfcreek

Apr-28-13 6:05 PM

Perhaps we are EB. My intial posted comments were directed at Richard, the writer of the article. Unless you are one in the same?

Don't know any outfitters but I agree if they create a food source they should moraly maintain it to last the winter.

Richard didn't complain about outfitters just hunters and game and fish. Didn't accept his own responsibility in altering the natural environment...and I'm betting that his property is posted tighter than a drum.

Would be happy to set up a ground blind and help him thin it out come bow season.

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EarlyBird

Apr-28-13 6:47 PM

CJ.. I'm not Richard, I was just explaining how it probably isn't his fault that that many deer are there. I doubt he does anything to lure deer to his yard if he is growing trees. And very likely he has a very small acreage where hunters if on his land are less than the legal distance from inhabited homes so he has to post to let them know he is there in the house so they don't shoot the house.

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puppydog

Apr-28-13 11:57 PM

What is the status of mountain lion in N.dak ? Has there? is there a bounty on these animals?

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DeerPro

Apr-29-13 8:30 AM

We had the same problem here in Connecticut with deer destroying arborvitae in our nursery. Use DeerPro Winter Animal Repellent to stop the damage to your evergreen trees.

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