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Senate blocks expanded gun sale background checks

April 17, 2013

WASHINGTON (AP) — Senate Republicans, backed by a small band of rural-state Democrats, turned away legislation Wednesday to tighten restrictions on the sale of firearms, rejecting repeated appeals......

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locomotive

Apr-21-13 9:09 PM

Worldview, I chose my MDN name for my own reasons. Most call me loco - isn't that cute? I'm sure your one-track comments mean that I stick to an issue regardless of distractions thrown in my path, right? Thanks!

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puppydog

Apr-21-13 9:07 PM

willgarr i don't think Earlybird was referring to your BIG WIN.I believe he was commenting on my previous response to billdngit acting like a 12 year old. I believe Earlybird was responding to billdgit acting like a 12 year old? Earlybird?

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locomotive

Apr-21-13 9:00 PM

Worldview, I said that the current laws on the books already address both the buyer and the seller of a firearms transaction. The laws say if a "felon" buys a firearm or if a seller sells it to him, both can be punished with prison time, up to 10 yrs.

Read the current laws. Why aren't sellers at the gun sales or on the internet being held responsible for their own law-breaking, if they're selling to felons?

The only thing I agree with in your recent post is that it seems the existing firearms laws are already as "worthless as the paper (they are) written on."

Adding another "requirement" on top of existing requirements and penalties will still be worthless, in my opinion, until sellers get serious, and prosecuting authorities get serious, about what's already in place.

It's not that hard.

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EarlyBird

Apr-21-13 12:00 PM

There are trolls like these people on every website, they just ask questions and ignore the facts and ask the same question over and over and over. Lifeless trolls.

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puppydog

Apr-21-13 11:45 AM

Billdgit What is your problem? are you really 12 years old? Or just emotionally stuck there ? This is a commonsense issue..not a political choice.

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Worldview

Apr-21-13 12:52 AM

Sorry dude, but letting the hard left of either, as even they get into the Peat and Repeat Mode. Though pretty much do think the crasier ones are on the right and have much larger percentage. No deep thinkin, just religion and guns, sums them up pretty much.

The only thing hear more of on the right that I would agree with is tax reform. Etch a sketch the whole code and start over. Now that we are over the gun debate (for now) than hope they can start on finally getting something done on it.

Crazy - My implied reasoning is that to refuse any kind of logic when common sense should make it clear, is CRAZy.. Just stick to the tracks like a Locomotive..

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Worldview

Apr-20-13 9:14 PM

Crazy wing nut clones (on both sides), get over it as you just made a mockery of the legislature by allowing the most common sense addition to gun laws that were already on the books. As I said over and over. Where the heck is common sense you morons.

It is only because they care about the next election that they voted this way. And they always got nut cases like on this board who will fight there fight without a thought of there own -well done clones! Just cause it does not make any sense to have a large loophole you will carry on anyway. Like a locomotive, full speed ahead, and stay on your one track mind even though there is no exit, or way to get off the track.

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Worldview

Apr-20-13 8:43 PM

Locomotive,

If you not going to do background checks at Gun Shows or the internet, than the law that requires background checks at Stores is as worthless as the paper it is written on. Either do the checks for all the sales or quit wasting time, because anyone who is a criminal, a terrorist or mentally ill has no barrier to buying a gun. EOS

Why can't you figure that out.

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billldoesntgetit

Apr-20-13 4:55 PM

Our side won so we control the guns..

Isn't that what you said about Obama ? You won so your in control?

Looks like bammybaby is slipping into the lamebrain duck column is he not????

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billldoesntgetit

Apr-20-13 4:53 PM

Liberals GET OVER IT!!

You lost the gun bill.. So sorry so sad now find something new to complain about OK?

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locomotive

Apr-20-13 4:48 PM

The laws already written put the burden on the one "selling, giving or disposing" of firearms, as well as the one buying or receiving them.

If there are sellers and buyers scoffing at or disobeying existing laws, how would yet another law prevent more scoffing and disobedience?

Prosecute those already breaking the current firearms laws, and quit trying to place yet another burden on the law-abiding owners or firearms.

Seems simple enough...

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locomotive

Apr-20-13 4:40 PM

Sorry - "possession or receipt OF a firearm"

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locomotive

Apr-20-13 4:39 PM

justice . gov/usao/ut/psn/documents/guncard . pdf

This site is the Dept. of Justice, US Government.

From pdf, first item: "Possession of a Firearm or Ammunition by a Prohibited Person" which include the following "elements - A: possession or receipt or a firearm or ammunition; B: by a subject who falls within one of the following categories: (first one) Felon."

Other "subjects" include: a drug user or addict, an alien, those subject to a restraining order, those having a prior conviction for domestic assault, a fugitive from justice, or one dishonorably discharged from the military.

Those that "knowingly sell, give or otherwise dispose of any firearm or ammunition to any person who falls within one of the...categories" can be punished by up to 10 years imprisonment.

It appears we have a bunch of laws already. Are they being enforced?

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locomotive

Apr-20-13 4:26 PM

Worldview, I think, therefore I find.

"No guns for felons - The federal rule is found in one of the main firearm statutes, 18 U.S.C. § 922(g)(1). It says that anyone "who has been convicted in any court of a crime punishable by imprisonment for a term exceeding one year" is barred from possessing a gun. The only felonies that are not covered by the federal gun ban are 1) those "pertaining to antitrust violations, unfair trade practices, restraints of trade, or other similar offenses relating to the regulation of business practices," per 18 U.S.C. § 921(a)(20)(A); and 2) felony convictions from foreign countries, per Small v. United States, --- U.S. ---, 2005 WL 946620 (April 26, 2005)."

This info was from a 2004 post, so I looked for something more recent.

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EarlyBird

Apr-20-13 2:12 PM

Here is some fodder... I am not a member of any Political sub-divisions but based on the symbol of an elephant for Republicans or a donkey for Democrats, an elephant we know to have good memories and a donkey.. well we know what that is.. a stubborn ass. Eat well my friends!

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puppydog

Apr-20-13 11:07 AM

Congratulations willgarr

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EarlyBird

Apr-20-13 10:21 AM

Worldview I would rather the criminals buy their guns than break into our homes and stores to steal them. It's just a choice we have to make.

But back to reality... there is no way to have an educational discussion when people refuse to see that the problem is people not pieces of metal.

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EarlyBird

Apr-20-13 10:14 AM

Thanks puppydog it seems to be a long enduring perspective.

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EarlyBird

Apr-20-13 10:12 AM

puppydog.. I doubt anyone can foresee the future accurately. Many of the modern weapons were created to give advantage in war. I think throughout all of modern time so very many peoples lives have been saved because of guns is why we see them as something good.

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puppydog

Apr-20-13 10:10 AM

All of you talking about "thou shalt not kill" where do you draw the line on that one?

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Worldview

Apr-20-13 10:09 AM

Locomotive,

THINK>>>> You say Felons "don't have that right"

The heck they don't. The NRA, and law says they DO. Can't you figure that out... They can buy, at gunshows or classifieds, with NO Background CHECK. That is my point. Either stick up for it or not. This law was about about making regular laws plausible. Nothing more. It is just common sense. If you tell me there is no need than stick up for your point, and say plugging a hole with half a finger is STUPID... EOS

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puppydog

Apr-20-13 10:01 AM

Earlybird I like your perspective, And guns were originally designed for self-preservation and common defense. We must remember when our bill of rights was written up guns were muskets. How could our forefathers possibly anticipate the technology we have today? When is enough enough already?

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locomotive

Apr-20-13 9:59 AM

The mothers and fathers who lost children in Newtown are bearing griefs that I can't understand. My heart goes out to them in this. I pray for them, as well as the whole community, to find the comfort and strength that they need to live on.

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locomotive

Apr-20-13 9:58 AM

"But to have it allows the(m) to" kill other people.

Law-abiding people don't look to kill people. Criminals will kill people, when it suits their criminality.

The Second Amendment guarantees law-abiding citizens the right to bear arms. Felons don't have that right. EarlyBird brought up that most gun sales already have records to trace.

Why aren't our lawmakers dealing with the mental health issues that were apparent in the Newtown case and others? Would the defeated legislation have done this? No.

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EarlyBird

Apr-20-13 9:34 AM

Before guns people were killed with sticks, rocks, arrows and the biggest killer of all is bombs lots of bombs.

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