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Senate blocks expanded gun sale background checks

April 17, 2013

WASHINGTON (AP) — Senate Republicans, backed by a small band of rural-state Democrats, turned away legislation Wednesday to tighten restrictions on the sale of firearms, rejecting repeated appeals......

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EarlyBird

Apr-17-13 6:00 PM

Over and over the law abiding public is restricted for the acts of criminals. At this pace all people if allowed to be born will be born with no presumed innocence. Everybody will be born as criminals and will never know freedom, liberty or justice.

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TAXMAN5

Apr-17-13 6:24 PM

To earlybird so the way you say it lets not have background check. Ok so lets have everyone have a gun including murders better yet have no laws at all so then we be better of than we ever were. I just saw a posting on craigslist of a person selling a gun and it says cash only no questions asked we can meet in at a gas station lot or a parking lot.

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EarlyBird

Apr-17-13 6:38 PM

I have filled out a registration and background information form for every gun I have purchased for the last 40 years. Everybody has, criminals will get guns no matter what laws are made by honest people. You will not suddenly change the criminal mind by making more laws, you must know criminals break laws and do harm in many different ways.

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EarlyBird

Apr-17-13 6:44 PM

Thanks for keeping your heads out of the clouds,fog,smoke Sens. Heidi and John. Somebody in DC needs to see clearly.

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EarlyBird

Apr-17-13 6:46 PM

The only time I will be afraid of guns is if everybody but me has one.

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billldoesntgetit

Apr-17-13 10:26 PM

taxmans do you really think the seller and the buyer are going to rush right down and file papers once they complete the transaction?

This stupid Gun Law stuff is like shutting the barn door after the horse is 1/2 mile down the road..

In fact its about as dumb as thinking we could round up all the illegals and send them home. ' Pleasantly surprised by heidi's vote today..

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centerfield

Apr-17-13 10:44 PM

I really am beginning to more fully understand the winger posters mind, what little of it is on display. First of all, birdie, you have registered 40 years worth of buying guns. Now, even the wingers figure that is a hoot. You may have signed a sales slip years ago, but that is it. As to everyone has to fill out background and registration material upon buying a gun is a real joke. Did you write that with a straight face. It is amazing that a "small" group of radicals can scare the heck out of Senators. The people voted against the tea party this year and against most all NRA candidates. It will get worse for the Republicans the next election. Oh, and I agree with veritas, I will also remember Heidi at the next election.

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Missy1

Apr-17-13 11:21 PM

Centerfield, keep telling yourself that. And I am sure Heidi is afraid, very afraid.

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Missy1

Apr-18-13 12:32 AM

Veritas, Just fine. And Thank You for asking. My Pressure cooker is for canning.

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theheat

Apr-18-13 1:15 AM

I wonder what it feels like to be such a coward and yet still have such strong feelings about fear and greed? Senator Heitkamp, could you answer that for me please?

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Worldview

Apr-18-13 6:50 AM

By voting against background checks for all sales, I guess that means that would also vote to repeal existing background checks, because any one can get around it so they are worthless as the paper they are written on.

Very Sad day. 30,000 deaths a year and climbing. What a morally bankrupt congress we have. Not a bad joke, but the sickest I have witnessed in my lifetime, when they cannot even agree on something like this.

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billldoesntgetit

Apr-18-13 7:38 AM

worldview veritas you guys really don't live in the real world do you.

I know of an estate sale coming up soon. Several guns will be offered for sale.. background checks at a yard sale? Swap meet? My neighbor likes the 22 I don't use anymore. Do you think I am going to drag him down for a background check if I sell it to him.. The guy on the street that has a stolen gun and sells it to some fool..do you think they are going to go down and get a background check?

Why pass a stupid arse bill when you have no means of enforcing it? If every speeding violation was enforced we wouldn't have a need to supply money to support the highway patrol. We have LOTS of laws.. Maybe enforce them 100% instead of making new ones that will only be used against you if need be but never enforced as they are written. IDIOTS!!

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EarlyBird

Apr-18-13 7:47 AM

veritas... yes and those papers we sign to buy guns will give the police a starting point if and when they recover a gun that was used in a crime. That has always been the process no matter what the papers say at the top.

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Worldview

Apr-18-13 7:55 AM

So than you agree that they should have voted to repeal all background checks if that is there true belief and yours. Irrational arguments, only made sense of by there fear of the NRA and their next election.

Sick and Sad state of affairs. And yes I know special interests have both sides by the chopsticks and that is what really needs to be done away with.

And - bilgarrdoesntgetit really Doesn't get IT.. Start thinking for yourself and for crying out loud, get your own Identity instead of trying to feed off the shirttails of someone you admire.

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Worldview

Apr-18-13 8:02 AM

Earlybird - That's right.. They argue that background checks do not work and the registration that takes place also goes unstated too often. Hundreds and maybe thousands could be saved, by this simple and most common sense legislation, not to mention how many more criminals would be arrested and put away. It is just unbelievable in its hypocrisy.

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EarlyBird

Apr-18-13 8:21 AM

All I'm saying is we have always had to sign papers to buy guns. To buy pistols there is a background check for quite a few years already. Barrack bought a gun and sold it to Dick who sold it to Harry who used it to commit a crime and the gun is recovered by the police. The police ask Barrack if he committed the crime with the gun, Barrack says no I sold that gun to Dick. The police ask Dick if he committed the crime with the gun, Dick says no I sold that gun to Harry. The police now have a suspect if he didn't sell it to George.

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EarlyBird

Apr-18-13 8:26 AM

Worldview.. don't go to extremes there is middle ground.

You tell me how a piece of paper is going to change the way a criminals mind works.

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Worldview

Apr-18-13 8:27 AM

It won't. Just help find him.

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EarlyBird

Apr-18-13 8:30 AM

The only way you can arrest more criminals is to have more Police and Judges and of course Attorneys to defend and prosecute the criminals. Do we want to live in a Police State of government?

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EarlyBird

Apr-18-13 8:36 AM

The vocal minority says they are ashamed of Washington..lol thank God they are a minority. I bet they are not so ashamed the up and leave.

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EarlyBird

Apr-18-13 8:42 AM

Background checks are somewhat like locks on doors, they do help honest people honest and have no effect on criminals. The nature of the beast is slow to evolve.

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Worldview

Apr-18-13 8:43 AM

Killers, Mentally Ill, and even AlQueda can buy guns in the USA without anyone knowing. You do not let them go thru airports, with an easy flag that pops up on the TSA terminal , but yet the can buy a an assault rifle, glock, and all the ammunition they need.

If I decide to kill someone for a life threatening reason, and do not mind showing my papers. (though I fell I could halt a home invasion easier with other means such as Pepper Spray of the Bear stopping type, but do not deny that a shotgun might be appropriate) Registration will not halt evil or criminals but will save some lives, and will help put more people away if they do decide to kill.

With all the publicity of this event, I am convinced more people will die now than the horrendous amount that already do.

Breaks my heart that at this particular time even the most massive loophole in gun registration could not be accomplished.

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EarlyBird

Apr-18-13 8:44 AM

Background checks are somewhat like locks on doors, they do help honest people remain honest and have no effect on criminals. The nature of the beast is slow to evolve.

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EarlyBird

Apr-18-13 8:46 AM

Worldview this is not a new problem people have been working on ways to reduce crime for 1000's of years.

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Worldview

Apr-18-13 8:47 AM

Call them out.... Either are politicians are for registration or against it!!! You do not leave this half way registration requirement without fixing cause it does not make any sense. Do it or don't. And then sign on the dotted line, with honesty for which side you are on.

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