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Suppressing right to vote

March 31, 2013

Marvin Frank, Grand Forks Dear Fellow North Dakotans, I am very concerned that some North Dakota legislators that are moving a bill that would require identification to vote....

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locomotive

Apr-06-13 9:25 AM

grramexx

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locomotive

Apr-05-13 12:52 PM

"But, Wall Street, the rich, big oil, and many big corporations all seem to go Republican. So, that is where we go since they(repubs) do nothing but obstruct the government."

Sounds like you're assuming, centerish. Are you positive this statement of yours is true?

And would you be willing to say the exact opposite for the Democrat Party? That "history shows us that (Democrats) DO a good job with governing the country?" Always?

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SLAAAPPPP

Apr-05-13 12:35 PM

N.D. doesn't (yet) have voter registration... so, no, I didn't register. Where the heck do you vote? ------------------- Sale? Who's having a sale? Even if I were why would you be a 'potential buyer' when you can/should get everything from the Gov't for free, right?!?

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centerfield

Apr-05-13 12:14 PM

Wow, slappy, the A material. By the way, voters are registered so why aren't guns. Did you not register "before" you voted? I am not interested in your sales but I would be interested in some Iraq WMD's or maybe Bush's AWOL paperwork from not reporting or even his drug tests results. Now, that would be a seller.

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centerfield

Apr-04-13 2:04 PM

I understand that more than you do, loco. But, in the subjects we discuss: ie- abortion, gay rights, XL pipeline, jobs bills, farm bill, Doma, subsidies for big oil, debt ceiling, sequester, the economic situation, and many other topics, the Republicans have taken positions of obstruction simply to get their way --- which, history shows us that Republicans do not do a good job with governing the country. But, the hard core right wingers try to support these guys and for the most part have no facts to back up their statements and actions. So, yep, I will challenge these actions and since most are brought by Republicnas, then we put them to the front of the line. I have said for many years that big corporations buy the congress and that is both sides of the aisle. But, Wall Street, the rich, big oil, and many big corporations all seem to go Republican. So, that is where we go since they(repubs) do nothing but obstruct the government.

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locomotive

Apr-04-13 12:11 PM

centerish, your willingness to tar and feather all Republicans in all issues is not "center" at all.

That's why I mention Democrats when the issue fits. Equal time. Aren't you pleased? Two sides. In the middle is the center. Try it some time.

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centerfield

Apr-03-13 12:48 PM

Come on loco, you can do better than that. I did not use the term Democrats at all. Do you sit around all day making stuff up? The amount of voter ID problems is less than .4% of the total vote across the US. The regulations being put in place by the Republican legislators affects many millions of people. The gerrymandering of voting districts affects million of people and the balance of the legislatures as well. The attack on the Republican legislator from GF was a prime example of the wild right running your party. You don't have a Republican party or a party direction. You have a right wing radical group trying to seize control of the party for their benefit. The only way, and I mean the only way, the Republicans can win an election is by fixing it. The fix is in!! As to your brush comment...You are right. Both sides have problems. But, the things the Republicans are doing and have been working on for years is almost so large it is beyond description.

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namexxx

Apr-03-13 11:22 AM

These ridiculous posts are all just the same person talking to himself.

Move on.

Get a life.

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locomotive

Apr-03-13 11:07 AM

So, centerish, you want to say (by omission) that all Democrats that, for example, work at polling sites are pure and clean, with no "garbage" being done?

Melowese Richardson, Cincinnati, Ohio, thought it was her duty to re-elect Pres. Obama (apparently all by herself) as she cast several votes for him. There's charges against her for elections in 2008 and 2011 as well.

I've heard about Black Panthers at voting sites with baseball bats. Could you confirm or deny that rumor?

Your broad-brush characterizations of Republicans might sound good to you, but I'd say the broad-brush can sweep both ways, if one wants it to.

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centerfield

Apr-02-13 10:26 PM

Obviously, loco, you really "don't" understand. The Republicans have been working on this stuff for years because they cannot win a fair election. They gerrymander districts to their advantage, they impose extra requirements to vote, and they try to make it extra hard for that section of the voting public, who probably will not vote for them, to vote. An example is the hundred year old woman who stood in line for hours in Florida to vote because of garbage rules. The people are already registered or did you not take that into consideration. Guess not. Heck, the Right wing will eat their own as they did with the Republican Legislator from Grand Forks who would not vote their way two sessions ago on the abortion bills. They gerrymandered his district, ran a right winger against him and took him out. They eat their own.

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namexxx

Apr-02-13 9:05 PM

I'm saying, you're on here -- talking to yourself -- way too much.

Nobody cares.

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namexxx

Apr-02-13 6:57 PM

Dear fellow North Dakotans:

One third of our state budget consists of freebies and handouts from the federal government.

We are takers, not makers.

Maybe we should get off welfare and start contributing for a change.

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locomotive

Apr-02-13 6:27 PM

No, I do feel that everyone who is a citizen has a right to vote. I don't understand why our country doesn't verify everyone who wishes to cast a vote.

If it's a question of people obtaining IDs, shouldn't our gov't would be willing to enable that to happen? Legitimacy for all.

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centerfield

Apr-02-13 1:25 PM

Women were denied the right to vote. Slavery was rampant. So, what is your point. You don't feel that everyone who is a citizen has a right to vote?

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locomotive

Apr-02-13 12:03 PM

subman's right. There was a time in our country's history that you had to own land and/or pay a tax in order to vote. And that was "constitutional" then.

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subman

Apr-02-13 11:22 AM

Cenerfiels...what did I say that was unconstitutional???? It used to be in this country that to vote you had to be a land owner, and pay a poll tax to vote... I'm just suggesting that you pay taxes...

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locomotive

Apr-02-13 9:42 AM

subman's idea possesses a visceral sort of merit, but if implemented, would make certain freedoms unobtainable for all US citizens. We'd go back to a time where all persons were not considered equal.

Instead, the issue that should be addressed is the vested interest that many folks in DC have in keeping the flow of freebies coming in return for votes. Some say subsidies. Others say entitlements. Still others might say grants. It all boils down to "what's in this for me" or "what do I get?"

Our friend JackAaah has been spot on in his posts about "Votes for Gifts" because it is painfully true, regardless of political party. Sad, isn't it?

So, a means to guarantee the quality of my vote doesn't pain me. In fact, everyone's vote would be 100% legit if all had to prove who they are before they can vote.

It's such a simple concept...

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locomotive

Apr-02-13 9:30 AM

Great comment, Longtoe.

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Longtoe

Apr-02-13 7:15 AM

I really can't understand what the problem with needing an ID. You can't buy a beer, a pack of smokes or even write a check without one. I show my ID everytime I vote. The only reason to oppose this is because it it harder to vote more than once.

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centerfield

Apr-01-13 10:05 PM

Gosh, we now have a new interpretation of the Constitution and amendments according to Subman. Boy are you almighty. Nothing like just throwing out the constitution when you want to. Oh, and dusty, your Illinois comment on voter fraud was not the discussion. It was gerrymandering the districts so that Republicans could get more seats without getting the popular vote. But, you never do make sense- small, bald, and lacking.

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billldoesntgetit

Apr-01-13 7:31 PM

billgarr we knew there was a reason you lived in North Dakota.. All the Barrrrrrack losers live there.

Got the black back don't you? Your really obsessed with Barrracks color aren't you?

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billldoesntgetit

Apr-01-13 7:30 PM

Yup those areas that were hit with Sandy had all their people supporting North Dakotas flood victims right?

Reap what you sow BillG!

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locomotive

Apr-01-13 4:22 PM

I knew we could trust our watchdog to come through!

billGRR

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locomotive

Apr-01-13 10:30 AM

Sure, then all elections can be legitimate, even those in Cincinnati. A poll worker there voted several times for Pres. Obama. She felt it was her duty for him to be re-elected and thought her vote wouldn't count unless she voted more than once. (I suppose there's a certain logic in that sentiment...)

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billldoesntgetit

Apr-01-13 10:12 AM

In every state except North Dakota, voters must be registered to vote in order to cast a ballot.

So how come Barrrrrrack did not win in North Dakota?

Were the people stifled from voting? What difference does it make if they need an ID? Seems North Dakota didn't go democrat without any proof so now if they have proof maybe you Dems can win..

Why all the crying?

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