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N.D. gears up for legal dispute on new abortion laws

March 27, 2013

BISMARCK (AP) — North Dakota's governor positioned the oil-rich state Tuesday as a primary battleground in the decades-old fight over abortion rights, signing into law the nation's toughest......

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locomotive

Mar-30-13 1:23 PM

Anonym, great post.

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anonym

Mar-30-13 12:19 AM

Billgarrgetsit: Last time I checked the Government nor the Supreme Court, legalized the killing, jailing or taking of property from someone just because they are gay. Whereas the Supreme Court in Roe v Wade legalized the killing of the unborn on the Federal Level, prior to Roe v Wade it was a classified as a State right to make the Law regarding the taking of an unborn life.

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mikefrommandan

Mar-29-13 6:37 AM

well said anonym, you put it in a nutshell.

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anonym

Mar-28-13 11:51 PM

The laws do not punish women just the doctors who perform the illegal procedures. I say if you are a man or a woman and do not want a child then use your brain and use birth control, it is available at your local drug store or big box store, or if you have unprotected sex go to your doctor & request the morning after pill. In the case of rape women need to go to the ER ask for the morning after pill which prevents conception it will not cause an abortion also stand up to their attacker by reporting the rape.

What happened to the 5th Amendment in which no one shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of law? Is not a heartbeat evidence of life? The fact is babies do not fully develop in a test tube! None of the laws deprives a woman of life, liberty or property, but an abortion does deprive a child of life, by dismembering and extracting the unborn child from the womb. Remember if your mothers chose abortion, none of you would be alive today.

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billldoesntgetit

Mar-28-13 11:32 PM

cares about what they have done to the women of our state,

cares about what they have done to the women of our state,

cares about what they have done to the women of our state,

Total brain power missing??? The Legislature did nothing to these women.. Good God you folks sound ignorant..

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billldoesntgetit

Mar-28-13 11:30 PM

Icart In seriously doubt the legislature got these women pregnant,.

These women got that done to them themselves.. Your a complete fool if you think the women has nothing to do with getting herself pregnant..

Did your momma tell you babies came form watermelon seeds????

get a clue. You only get pregnant if you are to stupid dumb to protect yourself.. FOOL!!!

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locomotive

Mar-28-13 4:04 PM

Here's another poll:

"According to a new CBS News poll, 80 percent of Americans are either dissatisfied or angry about how things in Washington are going. The economy, the deficit, sequestration, budget cuts, and guns were among the issues Americans were had problems with Washington either not addressing or addressing in the wrong way."

What? After Pres. Obama won re-election? Hmmm...

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mikefrommandan

Mar-28-13 7:38 AM

Silly Liberals, Roe V Wade is the law of the land, The bills the Gov signed imposes a few more restrictions on abortions, they , in no way prevent anyone from getting an abortion if they want one.

The abortion clinic in Fargo performs a average of 70 abortions a week. The Doctors are flown in to perform the procedures on patients that have appointments on Wednesday of every week. Do the math.

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ProgressiveLiberal

Mar-27-13 11:45 PM

When they lose in court, can we sue the legislators and governor for all of the money they wasted?

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icart68

Mar-27-13 7:47 PM

I agree muleskinner, the only problem with that...Is that "WE" the people of North Dakota will be the ones who lose!!! None of these so-called "legislatures" who voted for these bills cares about what they have done to the women of our state, let alone how they have EMBARASSED all of us by this going to the national news!! All of the "outside interest groups" who "helped" write these laws won't give ONE PENNY to the court fees that are coming our way!! I've said before, we need to impeach the gov...He took an oath of office to uphold the constitution. Well that obviously didn't happen!!

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muleskinner

Mar-27-13 6:36 PM

I hope the state is sued for 100 billion dollars and loses.

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VerMontanan

Mar-27-13 6:08 PM

This law doesn't go far enough. I think the Republican legislators should use more of the taxpayers money passing a bill that states life begins at erection. After all, you can't be too proactive. It's obvious these people are incapable of being embarrassed.

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cibyl46

Mar-27-13 4:06 PM

Our government cant afford more money for all the people who suffered and are still suffering from the flood. ND doesnt have the death penalty be they say we cannot afford the litagation costs. Can we afford this? I do know that everyone who voted for this and Jack has lost my vote.

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JackAaah

Mar-27-13 3:02 PM

I feel we could be using those tax dollars that will go for the legal battles, and we could throw that money in a fund to be used, for abortions, by those that feel using birth control is against their religions....

Or by those that feel they just want to roll the dice, and take the chance....whew...

It would be a gift that would save the state in giving out 18 years of gifts.....but, again...any gift is a good gift.

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ZRider

Mar-27-13 12:55 PM

ND Taxpayers should be outraged with the millions of dollars this will cost them. This is a woman's health issue, not a legal issue.

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locomotive

Mar-27-13 7:49 AM

rhrealitycheck . org/article/2013/03/01/challenges-in-the-trans-vaginal-ultrasound-debate/

"Both supporters and opponents of abortion rights get another thing wrong: they misunderstand standard abortion practice. The use of trans-vaginal ultrasounds is routine among abortion providers. When I started this work three decades ago, pregnant women often had to wait until they were seven or eight weeks pregnant before providers felt comfortable performing an abortion—they needed to wait that long to confirm a pregnancy and its placement. With advances in ultrasound technology—specifically the ability to conduct trans-vaginal ultrasounds—providers can now verify an intrauterine pregnancy as early as 4 weeks. Women no longer have to wait through weeks of pregnancy symptoms and distress before having a desired abortion. Trans-vaginal ultrasound is a useful tool and shouldn’t be maligned by abortion rights supporters seeking to make a quick exaggerated political point."

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locomotive

Mar-27-13 7:40 AM

The governor signed three bills, easily googled: ND (bill#) legiscan

HB 1305 is the bill "relating to the prohibition on abortions for sex selection or genetic abnormalities."

HB 1456 is the bill "relating to limitations on abortion after a determination of detectable heartbeat in an unborn child and to grounds for disciplinary action for physicians; and to provide a penalty."

From the bill: "Except when a medical emergency exists that prevents compliance with this subsection, an individual may not perform an abortion on a pregnant woman before determining, in accordance with standard medical practice, if the unborn child the pregnant woman is carrying has a detectable heartbeat."

I'm not sure that a transvaginal ultrasound qualifies as "standard medical practice" as I'm no OB/GYN, but I'd be interested in finding out about that.

SB 2305 is the bill "relating to limitations on physicians and abortion facilities."

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