The dreaded budget sequester has apparently struck North Dakota again....
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One surprising fact about the Farm Bill is that Title IV, Nutrition, generally receives the highest level of funding at 68% of total spending in the 2008 Farm Bill. These programs include the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (formerly known as Food Stamps)and other emergency food assistance programs.
Hail to the Food Stamp King Obama!!!
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Strict work ethic, DustOff, strict work ethic.
Roseanne Barr used to say something like this, back in the day when she was funny...
My husband asked me to pass him the potato chips. I told him to reach under the couch cushion and get 'em himself.
I only go to the the North Unit, not the park. Ride horses or walk the trails for free.
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loco...thank you for the respectful response...I think you really generalized your answer when specifics were in question...
The real answer is poor people are easy to pick on...
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DustOff, google is a wonderful thing.
And a "strict work ethic" is the German I know.
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Well, you KNOW what I was going to say, but I was cut off...here we go
C'est la vie 2013
and have a good day
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Thanks for a decent reply, Veritas.
"Within the list of (gov't) entrenched (hundreds) subsidies you specifically target the social programs...Why?"
You asked: "...tell me if capital welfare is more justifiable somehow than social welfare."
We don't live in a All vs. None world. My wise older bro told me when I was 11: "it's not all black & white!" I do have a set of ideals, and I try to see them implemented, as you say you are (ex: asking for your tax monies to be distributed to whom you think fit).
But I'm a realist. Gov't entrenchment at all economic levels, business and personal, will never end, now that it's grown to be what it is. Gov't IS Big Business, with regulatory powers and deep pockets to boot.
Veritas, you're a responsible US citizen, calling your state/nat'l reps & giving your opinion. We've still freedom to do that, plus vote, unless that changes. A look at history doesn't favor freedom over tyranny sadly.
C'est la vi
I'll even give you a micro ex. loco of a two headed elephant...
Farm Bill...10% receives 90% of monies...Fed money ok?
If the state of ND had to distribute these monies it would be bad (from their perspective) so Fed monies good, Fed debt Bad...
Really confusing morality here isn't it?
cont...And it's a worthy note to mention that Big Business has seen the greatest increase in income in over 3 decades while the percentage of below poverty line increases every year. 60 Million boomers will retire in the next ten years and after 3 yrs of retirement may very well all end up in the bottom 10% while the top 10% will have their incomes reach greater disproportion.
Is this" C'est la vie " ?
locomotive Mar-27-13 2:31 PM
"Veritas, I've said before that I favor no subsidies"
"And I've posted that medicaid, SNAP, LIHEAP, etc., should be available, to help those facing tough circumstances"
loco...Can't argue with the ethics of your post BUT...Within the list of government entrenched (hundreds) subsidies you specifically target the social programs...Why?
What is exactly on the table with "favoring no subsidies"?
"And I do know some that have made receiving gov't aid their lifestyle"
Does this last comment describe Farm Programs, Defense Contractors,Big Oil tax hooplas,Corporate Tax structures only an owner/Ceo would love? I think so!!
Your dartboard seems rather void of the word "All" and surely has the word "Some" on it! So, C'est la vie may only refer to your life..not mine. In fact, I'm going to request that all my taxes (there's plenty of them) go toward providing food & medicine for those who need it
Most of us on here would rather you help yourself and quit asking others to do it for you.
What percent of the people getting aid could make it without the aid if they just had the ambition to go solve their problems.
Its sorta like abortion. If there was no such thing as abortions half these stupid people would take care of themselves but the Government has given them a river to operate on so they don't really give a darn. As long as Government will solve their every little problem why should they work their back side off to do things for themselves.
This country is full of people stealing from the Government. I can name 2 people that I personally know that are milking the unemployment and working under the table.
Put unemployment to 16 weeks and watch the people find jobs..
I found one of those trillion dollar coins on the sidewalk the other day....I thought "OH, what a GIFT to me..."
Went to the store and they said it would only buy me a pack of koolaid and a frozen bag of peas....boy, was I bummed...
Veritas, I've said before that I favor no subsidies. But as gov't is very firmly entrenched in the ways and means of the economy, my viewpoint is moot indeed. I like the sequester for its cuts.
And I've posted that medicaid, SNAP, LIHEAP, etc., should be available, to help those facing tough circumstances, like sickness, in between jobs, the list can go on.
But ideally, any social safety net should be temporary, not a lifestyle choice. And I do know some that have made receiving gov't aid their lifestyle, rather than working a job.
When I was raised, it was considered honorable and worthwhile to work hard to make one's own living. Perhaps some in the younger generations aren't being taught a strict work ethic like I was.
Thanks for picking on me just a little. I'll return the favor as I can.
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loco...I pick on you a little because I know I'll get a perspective response worth reading (unlike dusty & lorexxx).
Quit spinning and tell me if capital welfare is more justifiable somehow than social welfare.
centerish, thank you for your post clarifying SS.
Sorry, I just don't have faith that it will "go another twenty years but with some small adjustments it is viable even longer." I'm a little cynical about the whole SS issue.
But your opinion doesn't hurt my feelings or alter my "non-retirement" stance. C'est la vie.
Dusty, you have the Limpman's thin skin. I used no swear words toward you, NONE!!!!
You, with your innate defensiveness jumped to that conclusion. Man up.
Do you know of the help that the other Middle Eastern countries are giving to the Syrian refugees? or are you just assuming they are doing nothing and we are carrying the entire load. An assumption we Americans often make.
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First of all, loco, SS is an independent area that is not included in the deficit. But, you wingers listen to the fake network garbage. If nothing was done, it would go another twenty years but with some small adjustments it is viable even longer. As to extending the age, I don't believe that is a viable solution. Those doing physical labor, on their feet all their lives, basically are wore out when they reach 60. They would struggle with an extension. They need to raise the caps on contributions to 200K. That would make a huge difference. But, rant on. Look at Dusty... Fourty percent of the posts on this blog are his and the only factual item he has put forth is that we are helping the refugees in Jordan. He would rather subsidize big oil and other major corporations than help humanity. Must have learned that from his tour of duty.
"Time for the Revolution!"
Comrade Veritas, you said "I say we cut them off right now" not me.
I'm fully aware, as are others in my generation, that SS won't be there in a few short years. That's why I'm not retiring. Simple. C'est la vie. I just grin & bear it while it's taken from the check. One of the many "sacrifices" I make for my country. (No, not really sarcastic)
In fact...Cut ALL subsidies!!No getting any more than you pay in..Let business's die and the sick and poor wander the streets!!!
Time for the Revolution!
loco...Once again you missed my point! If anything, the combination of sacastic posts are about "such is life" in America. Where corporations, the elite, special interest groups, states pet projects and the military community get the chunk of Americas money while the poor, the elderly and the sick are scoffed at as being deficiently receptive of welfare when in fact the above mentioned are the ones receiving the lions share.
This will be the legacy of America and as the income gap widens, and legislation favors business and the rich you're gonna see a revolution. Hopefully in your lifetime.
Krugman. Isn't that the Trillion Dollar Coin Man?
krugman . blogs . nytimes . com/2013/01/07/be-ready-to-mint-that-coin/
I think DustOff adequately addressed your query on SS recipients, Veritas. Maybe not to the satisfaction of everyone...
Your willingness to cut the elderly off is not-so-heartening, I must say. What happened to the lefty compassion I've heard so much about?
BTW, I'm not retiring. Ever. C'est la vie.
Touched a nerve. Done.
Non thinking? Are you saying I'm a. ' low information commenter'? See, I listen to the master, the ' Limpman' . You sir, are short sighted.
Asterisk's are their own swear word, I don't have to make the MDN do the work for me.
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