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Can’t trust city again

March 17, 2013

Gary Panasuk, Minot Well, here we go again, with more promises of flood protection and property tax relief....

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workboots2013

Mar-23-13 12:42 AM

Bottom Line The geographic location of minot is in a flood plain. mother natures design. Snow fall, spring melt....city next to a viable water source some years will drought others will flood. Plan and think ahead with the earth seasonal changes. Is this an ideal place to set a foundation and house. perhaps piers would be the way to go for some a little bit ahead of the game.

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Legend

Mar-20-13 8:19 PM

Hey Independent: You answered it. They never change their mind because they only represent themselves--with lutefisk on their breath they go for what they want and public input is a nuisance to them.

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Legend

Mar-20-13 7:59 PM

After doing volunteer flood work I concluded that if a normal person heard the stories of 10 flooded families--they would be overcome with grief. The city policy was "hurry up" or "you are late". Very inconsiderate words to flood victims. Then tell of tax relief knowing property value increases will squash any relief. Two of our finest quickly retired from the city only to be elected to the county. We have the govt. the majority wants.

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disgusted

Mar-20-13 11:40 AM

I get that you are upset, but "facks" and 'mine'? did you mean facts? and mind? class action--now that is funny

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dollarbill

Mar-20-13 9:10 AM

The City 'DON'T CONFUSE ME WITH FACKS, MY MINE IS MADE UP.WHY NOT A CLASS ACTION???

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disgusted

Mar-19-13 7:29 PM

Curly1, I empathize entirely. We are in the same boat, and our country has been taking downward turn for sometime. I don't see it getting any better, either.

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Curly1

Mar-19-13 1:01 AM

Disgusted, I am not really down. Discouraged would be a better word. Fighting to restore a home and other personal issues can be taxing. Our leaders have not always listened to us and that makes me discouraged. Something gets voted down, seems they find another way. They seem to have stopped listening to the people they are elected to represent. It goes on in Minot, North Dakota and in Washington. I see too many of our freedoms sliding away. Our elected officials are so far into doing what is good for them they forget who employs them. I also am discouraged that the people themselves are so uninformed and are quite content to be so. I don't really care for the most part if you are right or left, just vote in and informed and honest way. Media that is all about ratings and not about honestly reporting the news. Waste in government and no common sense. We work so hard for our dollars, I just do not see how so many do not care how those dollars are wasted.

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Legend

Mar-18-13 10:09 PM

Muleskinner rocks. Minot has a 60 year history of voting down the big pet projects like the Golf Course and the All Seasons Arena. Not so with flood control, NAWS and more 1% tax. Most of the 1% money was spent foolishly. The council chair actually snickered on talk radio when discussing one of the last 1% approvals. Vote for different people.

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Legend

Mar-18-13 1:26 PM

True words. We need to see a 100% effort by the city on flood control until we have it. Stop the economic development nonsense. We flooded because Hostefest was more important than an agreement with Canada that protected us. Prior to 2011, the city hid and ignored our flood potential.

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disgusted

Mar-18-13 1:19 PM

Curly1, true, just have to make sure the squeak is so loud they can't ignore it. Don't remember you being so 'down'

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Curly1

Mar-18-13 1:15 PM

The squeaky wheel theory works only if the squeak is not tuned out by the person hearing it. Sometimes it becomes white noise.

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locomotive

Mar-18-13 12:59 PM

Good point, disgusted.

The old saying is "the squeaky wheel gets the grease" not the quiet one.

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disgusted

Mar-18-13 12:38 PM

A couple of weeks ago, the planning commission put a hold on the remodeling plans for First Western based solely on the passionate feelings of one citizen. Not sure what the final outcome will be, but they did listen to him, and there were others with less passion, vs blindly approving the plans for the mayor's bank. How do we know that they don't listen if no one speaks up?

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Curly1

Mar-18-13 10:27 AM

What is the point of going to the meetings and voiceing opinions or presenting petitions? They ignore what the people want anyway. They have done this in the past. Just a couple of months ago when people against having mobile homes in the community where stick built homes where. No point in going...so I won't. It is like a spit in the wind.

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Independent

Mar-18-13 7:18 AM

Does anyone know the last time the City Council changed it's mind based on public input?

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disgusted

Mar-17-13 6:08 PM

a correction, the committee meeting is the 27th at 4:30 and the full meeting April Fool's Day at 6:30

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subman

Mar-17-13 5:11 PM

thats true... but pre flood the trees were alive....now they're dead... but technically they could be a pre flood.. good point..

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disgusted

Mar-17-13 2:59 PM

now, subman, the city manager said the dikes were back to pre-flood conditions. You can't think they would move the trees would you? Even out be the bridge to Burlington, there is a wide 'land-fill' protruding into the river.

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subman

Mar-17-13 2:14 PM

what about all the dead trees close to the river channel from Lake darling all the way through Minot? Do you really think they won't get uprooted and cause problems during the next flood? How many trees will it take to take out bridges, houses etc.... bet they never thought of that and if they did they have never commented on it.

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disgusted

Mar-17-13 1:46 PM

muleskinner, this current 1 cent tax issue is not the switch from NAWS to city, but the tax that was started in 2006 and expires in 2014. If you go back to the articles in the paper about this sales tax, you will note that it includes 10% for property tax relief. Since when have we had any property tax relief. In actuality, that 10% went for things like airport debt relief. And that is what that 10% should be called--debt relief. I hope you go to the meeting on April 1st and express your concerns.

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muleskinner

Mar-17-13 10:42 AM

The city really had a great propaganda campaign with its slick advertising for the one cent tax they had to have so bad back in June of 2011 and now since it has won the vote, why bother to do it all over again when all you need to say is the voters in Minot already passed it once, so there is no need to vote on it again. It worked out great for the city, why bother with another vote?

It'll cost money to have the vote and we can just raise taxes because your home has increased in value because we say it has.

We, the city tyrants, don't need your vote, but we want/need your money, worse than ever.

It is financial tyranny.

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disgusted

Mar-17-13 6:22 AM

I agtree. The city manager says the dikes are repaired to the pre 2011 flood stage. Why has the river bank under the 83 bypass not been repaired? Why is there a pile of debris on the 'dike' across the river by Central? There is a committee meeting Monday at 4:30 and the Council meeting April 1st at 6:30. WE need to voice our concerns. I don't think that Minot needs anymore economic development for the next few years. The focus needs to shift from economic development to flood control or there will be no need for any growth because people are not going to stick around if there is another flood.

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