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Zoning changes go too far

February 19, 2013

At a work session tonight, members of the Minot Planning Commission will continue to discuss sweeping changes and additions to the city’s zoning ordinance....

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WorriedAmerican

Feb-24-13 10:40 AM

Which would you rather have across from your home? A modular home on the east side of the street or a three story apartment complex?

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WorriedAmerican

Feb-24-13 10:35 AM

TXMomof3 there are several homes that do not have basements.

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disgusted

Feb-22-13 11:27 AM

Exactly, many lots have increased in value with the modular homes. Would I want to live in a flooded home that had not been gutted, cleaned, and sanitized until this past December? NOOO!

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disgusted

Feb-21-13 8:56 PM

I have lived in or near Minot my entire life, been through both floods. This last one caused us to gut and redo our home. Do I want metal frame trailers in my area? No. Do I want campers in my area? No. Do I believe that the city council and planning members are trying to shut the barn door after the horses got out? Yes. Do I want them to determine that a wide array muted natural tones are the only colors allowed in Minot? No. Or that windows, doors, and accents shall be compatible in scale with every other home? No. Homes are an expression of who we are as indiviuals. Do there need to be some guidelines for safety? Yes. Peopl have covered their foudantions with fake rock , brick, etc. Why is that so different from skirting?

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TXMomof3

Feb-21-13 5:33 PM

As someone who had their home destroyed and has rebuilt, I don't appreciate the city letting mobile homes into our neighborhoods. They can call them modular all they want. If it's on cinder blocks, it's a trailer.

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disgusted

Feb-21-13 11:58 AM

the zoning changes pertain to NEW construction.

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WorriedAmerican

Feb-21-13 9:54 AM

lorexxx I was pointing out that all these townhouses and condos with all the rows of garage doors facing the streets wouldn't they be in violation of the city zoning laws because there are no front doors or windows facing the street?

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Nostrocommonus4

Feb-20-13 10:23 PM

Like most ordinances, laws, etc. the proverbial devil seems to lie in the details. My assumption is that a handful of tweaks will take care of the concerns the parties have with the new ordinances. I'm going to assume that the city isn't going to try and decide whether anyone should choose between beige or greige siding for their house. But if my neighbor wanted to paint his house pink and put green shingles on it, I don't think I would appreciate that. His action would impact my property value, which is why some ordinances are required. The bigger issue is that there is clear dissent within the community about a process that should be more transparent. Looks like a couple folks within the city need to set egos aside and proactively reach out to local groups for support before deciding to push for their own version of Minot Utopia.

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disgusted

Feb-20-13 11:54 AM

Can't agree more. Lip service to the flooded home owners is about the best they have done. Burlington moved much more swiftly and prudently. There have been no definitive statements, no solid straightforward actions, but as one good friend always says, no one will know the difference in a 100 years or so. I guess we learn today if the moisture will be determined a 1 in 10 event. Good thing we have Jim Olson.

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muleskinner

Feb-20-13 11:15 AM

No, I didn't lose my home to flood waters.

When I see houses that are sitting for a year and a half with no real progress, it is disheartening. The owners have lost faith.

When the City of Minot does nothing to address the situation along 6th Street NW, I lose faith in the community leaders. 159 million dollar grants and nothing gets done in some of the flood areas? They are not interested in making any kind of improvements in flooded areas, so the flooded homes sit there.

They have plenty of time to write new zoning changes and spend lots of money on new developments and schools, but the flooded areas and homes continue to be ignored.

Not impressed. They're not doing what they really should be doing full time.

The city leaders need a wake up call.

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disgusted

Feb-20-13 10:49 AM

Do you live there?

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WorriedAmerican

Feb-20-13 10:29 AM

I don't know I see areas of condos or townhouses where all you see are rows and rows of garage doors facing the street. Does that look attractive?

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disgusted

Feb-20-13 10:01 AM

So if I understand correctly, you lost your home in the flood? I am so sorry.

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disgusted

Feb-20-13 10:00 AM

I was going to ask what YOu thought of last night. 162 pages of changes and the building association was not aware of them or any of the previous 'public' meetings says something about the council, and that something is not so good.

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muleskinner

Feb-20-13 8:35 AM

No. All of the changes aren't going to do any good.

I have purchased property in another location.

Minot is not what it once was.

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disgusted

Feb-19-13 9:40 PM

Were you there tonight?

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muleskinner

Feb-19-13 8:44 PM

The draft has a lot of 'may' to 'will'.

That is, what you are permitted to do compared to what you will be required to do.

Homeowners associations are less than desirable and is another tax.

No thanks.

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BERESPONSIBLE

Feb-19-13 6:42 PM

For those of you that have posted comments - Have you actually read the proposed ordinances - Do you understand what the proposed changes would be? Could you provide specific problems that you have with the proposed ordinances? Or do you choose to simply rant and rave about something that you know nothing about? If this is not the case - please post your specific issues.

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disgusted

Feb-19-13 6:35 PM

I don't believe that we can compare Minot to Williston. The two situations are very different. Common Sense and restraint in actions are needed.

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muleskinner

Feb-19-13 6:10 PM

Nobody asked for this stuff, it got crammed down our throats before we knew it.

I have been responsible for many years, a life time now. Working to the best of my ability, always making sure that my bills are always paid in full, and on and on.

All it has done is increase the amount I owe each month, year after year, decade after decade. Always more to pay, all of the time. It never, ever stops. Always somebody always wants more money for what was once less.

It is so old and tiring, it makes me sick. Time to powerbarf without cessation.

I've been responsible. It is time for the gov to do the same.

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BERESPONSIBLE

Feb-19-13 5:56 PM

Please be sure that you have first read and then understand the proposed ordinances before you make your comments - I would be helpful! AND one more thing - try to be part of the solution not the problem. Show up with your constructive comments. Or if you rather - move to Williston and experience first hand what it is like to live in a community with out a sense for the common good.

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muleskinner

Feb-19-13 3:45 PM

Another example of the 'drone mentality'.

It is defined as the state of existence where everyone believes that even though the domestic economy is not that great, foreign diplomacy and military policy are doing fine. Nothing could be further from the truth.

It is bad, then it is worse, but it all is made to look good.

It is the money interests that want the zoning changes. It is done to expedite the building process to have the material base one complete package before any of it all begins.

Go to ebay real estate and look at how much houses are selling for in Tennessee. Starting bids are 500 dollars. No kidding.

When you're inside a bubble like North Dakota, reality doesn't matter.

The city council will do some grandstanding and then roll over and die. They have the drone mentality.

Minot is a new 'investors hub'. They want the zone changes. The citizens of Minot can lump it.

A reversion to the mean will happen.

Send in the drones.

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disgusted

Feb-19-13 1:26 PM

They already have that through the building permit process. Now whether they will demand czars for those who shingle their own homes, I do not know. The planning commission will present their ideas to the city council next Monday eve. See you there.

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WorriedAmerican

Feb-19-13 12:34 PM

disgusted will Minot have to hire a Zoning czar and a czar force?

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disgusted

Feb-19-13 11:41 AM

Another thing that should be zoned is that the pitch and style of the roof should match the pitch and style of the home. Ex. is the beautiful home up behind Homesteaders. The design of the home is beautiful, but the roof of the garage destroys the entire appearance.

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