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Limiting Obama's power

January 19, 2013

No one aware of President Barack Obama’s rhetoric and his background should doubt that if he thought he could get away with it, he would use executive orders to limit or ban private ownership of......

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muleskinner

Jan-19-13 7:31 AM

The Constitution is just a piece of paper. It is not followed to the original intent, so it really is null and void and the US gov, in its present incarnation, is completely unconstitutional.

The Constitution is dead.

Obama need not abide by it, nobody else does.

Go read it and see what it says and then ask yourself if it is followed or not.

You will find out that contents of the Constitution no longer apply.

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WorriedAmerican

Jan-19-13 11:10 AM

Relax all you gun nuts. The NRA the most powerful gun lobby in the land controls these politicans not the constitution nor the President of the United States! We will go through the news media and the song and dance and soon it will be swept under the rug and not to be heard from again until another mass murder or two or three or until the people finally wake up realize they are being dooped by the money making gun manufacturers of this country! Everytime a mass shooting and the mention of gun control laws gun sales go up! And gun prices double or triple! Who benefits??? The murder childrens' families? No!! Society? NO! Are we safer? No!!!

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muleskinner

Jan-19-13 11:45 AM

Is there an ad hominem in there?

I'm not a big gun nut. I just say what will happen. There will be a black market. Just tellin' it like it is.

Mexican drug cartels are the real gun nuts and the numbers of victims are the proof in the pudding. No matter what is done to prevent them from obtaining arms, they still can and do.

I doubt if the Mexican drug cartels subscribe to NRA magazine, nor will they register their arms purchases.

Obama's power is meaningless in Mexico.

Gun control is useless and dangerous.

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WorriedAmerican

Jan-19-13 1:02 PM

muleskinner all of these mass killings have been caused from weapons purchased legally in the United States by supposedly responsible gun owners! Don't you think there is a problem developing in this country? Putting more weapons out there is not the answer if the legal gun owners cannot control their weapons from getting into the wrong hands!

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WorriedAmerican

Jan-19-13 1:32 PM

***********jhsph.edu/research/centers-and-institutes/johns-hopkins-center-for-gun-policy-a... Surveys of gun owners suggest that approximately 500,000 guns are stolen each year from private ... Many of the individuals who sell guns to criminals also sell stolen goods. ... Special Report from the U.S. Bureau of Justice Statistics, US.

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WorriedAmerican

Jan-19-13 2:06 PM

h4c your facts are wrong on wounded knee! The American government didn't like the natives dances. They out-lawed the sun dance. The natives kept on dancing but started the ghost dance this was viewed as breaking the treaty causing the Battle at Wounded Knee.

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WorriedAmerican

Jan-19-13 2:08 PM

h4c IS IT NOT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE GUN OWNERS AT ALL TIMES TO SECURE THE WEAPONS AND AMMUNITION THEY PURCHASE AT ALL TIMES TO PREVENT THEM FROM GETTING INTO THE WRONG HANDS IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!

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WorriedAmerican

Jan-19-13 2:13 PM

I have saw several times in small towns through out ND during deer season you could steal a high powered rifle out of gun rack in a pickup truck parked on a small town on main street! That is how irresponsible these gun owners are!

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WorriedAmerican

Jan-19-13 2:42 PM

h4C Wounded knee was not at all about guns it was about breaking a treaty! As lame as it was! Your argument is so weak and pathetic as your party affiliation! And as usual you never did answer the question. Do you believe that gun owners should be responsible at all times for their weapons and ammunition from getting into the wrong hands? If they are found negligent should they be prosecuted as accessories to the crimes that these people commit?

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disgusted

Jan-19-13 3:28 PM

According to Gallup, 58% of Americans approved of the job Obama was doing. Survey results released today by Gallup, though, show Obama’s approval rating has plummeted to just 49%.

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WorriedAmerican

Jan-19-13 3:33 PM

So the conscenses is, if you own a gun you don't have to take any responsibility for it? That makes as much sense as all of the other lame arguments I've read on here!

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WorriedAmerican

Jan-19-13 3:34 PM

disgusted what does the survey say about Congress??

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WorriedAmerican

Jan-19-13 3:42 PM

There is a problem out there we have millions of weapons out there being purchased everyday moving around and no way of knowing who or what type of individuals have them! Oh darn I moved out of my apartment and left my AR-15 in the closet! Gee, I hope nobody finds it!

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WorriedAmerican

Jan-19-13 3:53 PM

What we should have is like an all states required annual gun registery like automobiles. Listing the serial numbers makes & models & owners to keep track of these weapons each and every year. Annual registration fee per gun per year to be put towards fighting gun violence in this country.

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locomotive

Jan-19-13 7:06 PM

And the gun-control folks are... always trying to control someone.

Common sense should prevail, but with some postings on here, I wonder.

H4C's point is excellent: the crimes are committed by Criminals, not Law-Abiding Gun-Owning Citizens.

In a perfect world, nobody gets shot, by accident or on purpose. But we already know we don't live in a perfect world.

To depend upon a government (made up of imperfect people, with imperfect moods, motivations, ways or means, likes or dislikes) to Always Do The Right Thing for its citizens is near-sighted. It's a viewpoint not rooted in history or reality.

King George was only human too. The Bill of Rights were enacted to protect our new country from the excesses of the old. They'd just fought a war to be free from them!

The discussion needs to move from 2nd Amendment to the mentally ill in our society. It's a more fitting and timely subject, especially after the tragedy in CT.

Any ideas from the progressives?

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disgusted

Jan-20-13 11:45 AM

Jaybird, felons have guns, just not legally!

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muleskinner

Jan-20-13 11:51 AM

Jaylebird is flying over the cuckoo's nest.

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disgusted

Jan-20-13 12:36 PM

Jaybird, you are so funny. thin ice? in ND? in the winter?

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WorriedAmerican

Jan-20-13 1:55 PM

The Vatican praised President Barack Obama's proposals for curbing gun violence on Saturday, saying they are a "step in a right direction."

The Vatican's chief spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, in an editorial said that 47 religious leaders have appealed to members of the U.S. Congress "to limit firearms that are making society pay an unacceptable price in terms of massacres and senseless deaths."

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WorriedAmerican

Jan-20-13 1:58 PM

Considering that Americans possess "about 300 million firearms," Lombardi said, "people cannot fool themselves that it is enough to limit the number and use (of guns) to impede in the future horrendous massacres like that of Newtown that shook the conscience of America and world, as well as that of children and adults. "

He was referring to the Newtown, Conn., elementary school where 20 children and six adults were killed by a sole attacker last month.

"But it would be worse to be satisfied with words" of condemnation alone, Lombardi said. And while massacres are "carried out by unbalanced or hate-driven persons, there is no doubt that they are carried out with firearms," the Vatican spokesman said.

Lombardi renewed Vatican appeals for disarmament and encouragement for measures to fight "the production, commerce and contraband of all types of arms," an industry fueled by "enormous economic and power interests."

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WorriedAmerican

Jan-20-13 2:35 PM

h4c is calling the The Vatican's chief spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, and 47 other religious leaders liars! Just because they agree with what President Obama is trying to do!

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disgusted

Jan-20-13 2:45 PM

He is not calling them liars. But, what hope4change did say about our godless society is true. Of course, nmany of us have come to view the leaders of the Catholic church through synic eyes after the years and years of hidden child abuse.

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disgusted

Jan-20-13 5:08 PM

Comedic post from Veratis---who would have thunk!

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disgusted

Jan-20-13 8:11 PM

a bit of food for thought: Some Illinois legislation came as a response to the tragic Columbine High School shooting in 1999. SB 759 provided that anyone 15 years of age or older charged with aggravated battery with a weapon in school or within 1,000 feet of a school would be charged as an adult.

It passed the Illinois State Senate in a 52-1 vote, with 5 members voting present — including Obama.

I suppose we can attribute his vote to his young inexperience age of 38.

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locomotive

Jan-21-13 11:43 AM

PJinfinity, that comment is so moldie-oldie. Besides, it's no longer even close to the truth.

Isn't Pres. Obama's Inauguration celebration today? For his second term?

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